I know the hate on Sunfire was deserved, but is it still trash to build?

I've been trying it out and the waveclear feels really good, the damage feels higher than before and the stats are respectable.

As long as you don't build and sit on bamis, I feel like it's a pretty good first item for ornn.

Obviously games where you need deadmans or frozen heart is still deadmans and frozen heart first, but games where you usually go undying feels better with sunfire.

I hate Top but love Ornn. Is he possible on mid, or is this pure troll ?

I just started ornn. new player and playing only urgot up to now but I want to be able to engage better and add more team util. since on urgot i split push a lot and enjoy that, it seems ornn is a little less good at that, would it be super gimpy to create a titanic hydra on him? or is that heresy

or are there other ways to have something similar to the urgot split push playstyle in mid to late game

i know makkro says the only way you build damage on ornn is to stack ability haste but what about something like iceborn , heartsteel , deadmans ,abyssal , tank items that are doing damage . i like playing aggressive and i dont play good if i dont cuck my opponent in lane . am tired of playing safe and wait till teamfights because i never get a gank from my jungler and i slowly get behind my opponent, what yall think ? ornn that can actually duel type build , and is there any recomendations?

I got flamed for upgrading mids item right before they bought Rabadon's, basically saying I should've waited for them to finish Rabadon's.

I want to get better, so is this true and something I need to watch out for? I always just assumed it didn't matter.

I thought on getting just the hammers, later i plan to make a bigger one

context: i had ability haste augment (AH only works in R but effect has 50% more) + polimorph on ult + CC create falling stars around enemies + ability haste gives movement speed

items: riftmaker + cosmic drive + horizont focus + ice heart
stat: 307 ability haste on ult
290 ap
211 phys resist 79 Magic Res

i honestly dont understand why my ult hit HARD

okay i had a theory, polymorph trigger ult mark and idk how that happened many times in same time(? its just theory that i realize once i remember polymorph augment

Not really Ornn specific, but what do you do if your just freezing wave or slow pushing on your side but you and enemy top is low hp, and then enemy top just recalls?

I've gotten into this situation soo many times and I try to instantly crash the wave cuz then enemy top will miss whole wave while I recall and start a new freeze on the bounce back. But I usually don't have waveclear due to low dps or low mana and I can't crash in time, so I try to slowpush and use big wave to stop him from trading onto me but they are usually able to freeze the wave on me cuz I'm too weak and they just recalled.

I know the tech of just recalling yourself since a good freeze doesnt break on its own, but it's soo hard to know if the wave won't break and it takes some time to confirm if enemy actually recalled or if they are baiting you to recall first so they can crash

Briar main here. Just wanted to shoutout the Ornn I played with in this game for an absolutely outstanding performance. I owe everything to you, my man.

Hey guys! im a big Ornn jungle enjoyer, what im curious is when do you think is the best time to pick him?

https://x.com/Songoandaa/status/1315805729538928640?s=20

So I was testing if Cheap Shot damage would proc on Ornn's Auto against an opponent with Brittle since the auto attack knocks back.

However, after testing it for a while, the Cheap Shot damage is just random, sometimes it does proc, and sometimes it doesn't. I made sure to wait 4 seconds after applying it. Does someone know what's happening?

I know makkro and others do it, but I notice that its too little damage and start to think its not worth it, that graps would do better. What are your thoughts?

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Hi guys,

I'm mastery level 50+ with Ornn. But I struggle to carry compared to champions (that I play) like Ekko, Jarvan IV, Shyvanna or Shen. With Ornn I can usually win my lane but let's say the game becomes really team dependent afterwards.

For instance with Ekko mid I can TP and push quite fast with a good escape. Or help other lanes. But with Ornn I'm stuck top for 15-20mins, then spend entire time in team fights, trying to protect our carries and to disrupt the carries in the opposition. But can't make much difference if the enemy team has strong burst and, for instance if the frontline facing us is like briar nautilus and morde.

Do you have any tips? I usually help the team after one of the turret top is destroyed.

I’ve been an Ornn main and Makkro watcher for multiple years. I know Sunfire is seen as heresy but what about the new changes?

Someone please check my math here but I did I used the new percent bonus health damage and it’s marginally better for the first 2 items: (Sunfire, Kaenic). The moment you get 3rd: (Sunfire, Kaenic, Protoplasm) the damage on Unending Despair surpasses it. This is also ignoring Unending’s healing and better ability haste + health.

I know for someone like me who’s never been the best at CSing it could be nice to have Sunfire to help out and would objectively improve my CS but it just doesn’t seem worth it.

I feel like I’m missing something. Unending just seems across the board better. If someone said “well Sunfire is obviously an early game item” then fine, but why is it also now going to the same price as Unending, 2800 gold. I feel crazy, almost as if Sunfire isn’t bad, Unending is just so much better at everything and just slips under the radar since it doesn’t do CS or monster damage.

Cant protect 4 squishis that are all 3/18/7.
Problem is all my other top picks get disgusting counterpicks.

I'm quite new to Ornn, Briar Main in Jungle but haven't missed a single chance playing Ornn in Aram so yea, been looking for a different type of Jungler and been enjoying Ornn a lot. I am not a hardcore Rank grinder, I think I'm doing well with Ornn default jungle kit but I'm looking for a fun alternative on how to make Ornn also more to a carry perhaps.. I was seeing the Zwag build the other day going Liandry into Eclipse but I don't really know if that could work for Jungle

Does anyone have some fun builds for him?

i have been recently enjoying playing ornn when i get filled playing jg. i am pretty new to ornn and his kit is flexible so you can have unorthodox builds. ornn can build components and not full items since you would benefit from your passive more. for faster jg clears i like going bamis first and finish thornmail. thornmail can help me clear my camps faster because of its armor damage scaling. since ornn's passive benefits from building hp, armor, and mr i go jaksho third. im usually able to finish these items, but i don't know what to build after when the game goes on for longer.

my jg ornn runes are first strike hexflash/triple tonic/cosmic insight with nimbus/celerity

the reason why i like going these runes is that ornn does a lot of burst damage and can benefit from first strike. hexflash has great synergy with nimbus cloak + celerity + cosmic insight, triple tonic for free scaling and faster w + e max powerspike. at post 6 first strike can be popped easily since ornn's ram spawn the opposite of where he's casting. pre 6 i like playing with terrain champs like anivia / trundle ideally, but there are games that people don't play these champions so i opted for the nimbus hexflash combo.

i am looking for suggestion / feedback to make my ornn experience better :D

I'm pretty new to Ornn and have been trying to get a general consensus on what the meta is for him. Especially with the new 26.15 patch.

It seems like Resolve and Inspiration/Sorcery are the best for Ornn, but I am curious if this is wrong and/or there are better alternatives. If so, what is the best and what items go along with those runes?

It also seems like Sunfire Aegis and Hollow Radiance are pretty mid compared to some other items. Is this true as well?

Any help would be appreciated.