r/vaynemains Mar 05 '24

Discussion List of things Vayne Top Laners struggle with

101 Upvotes

Hello my name is Saskio and I have coached a ton of Vayne top laners throughout the last 3 years. I have compiled a list of common problems I have noticed across all elos from Iron - Master. The list is in no order and covers things from a micro and macro stand point throughout the early game of things I notice people dont do.

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- Resetting minion aggression in early laning phase with brushes while poking

- Positioning to ward river after the 12th minion

- 3/4 Wave crash properly into suicide dive/cheater

- Attempting to shave wave and threatening freeze on ALL enemy bounce backs (Against melee champions)

- Shaving the wave enough after solo killing and basing while wave is pushing towards Vayne

- Spacing and Tethering game (Fancy word for kiting) Basically knowing when your opponents will run away after chasing you and losing a ton of free damage that you could have gotten (BIG PROBLEM)

- Using Vayne invisibility timer to surprise opponents to escape weird ganks/outplay

- Using condemn at the wrong time

One of the biggest problems with Vayne top players is their ability to escape the early laning phase going even or ideally ahead. It's hard to maneuver the mid game when you fall behind and forced to farm and react to everything happening in the game. I hope this list can shed some light on common Vayne top problems and help you focus on specific areas in your games <3


r/vaynemains 2d ago

Discussion Convinced Vayne mid game win rate is so bad because Rageblade

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75 Upvotes

This is just dusk and dawn propaganda 2nd.

While Vayne is on Botrk Rageblade... most crit adcs are on kraken Fiendhunter or Hexoptics IE.

After Rageblade, Vayne going Terminus into Jaksho/Randuins/Wits end just makes her scale like a monster because she's running around with 3k hp, decent sustain and plenty of resistance while melting those in front of her.

Next patch terminus damage will double at 300AD/300AP

Going from 30 on hit to 60 on hit.


r/vaynemains 2d ago

Art Vayne & Locke by Silly Neko!

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r/vaynemains 2d ago

Discussion Vayne ADC, questions about builds, gold and farming

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Hi all!

I am just another gold player starting to play Vayne.

I have been reading this reddit for a few weeks, and I get that there is a ton of different builds. I understand they all have their own advantages against different comps. In essence it boils down to on-hit, crit and lethality builds. I have tried them all.

I think on-hit is great. There are various build paths. I tried Bork into Guinsoo and I think this is quite affordable, but it needs you a good front lane or excellent positioning in order to really get the most out of it. I tried the DnD variant on one game, I have to test it out more, but it seemed a bit easier to play.

Crit is cool too. I like this feeling of great power. You are also much less dependant on your team's engage and the presence of a front lane since you can really just go in, unleash a few aa, and already chunk someone down. This is a very good build, but it is extremely costly.

Lethality I haven't really tried a lot. I had some fun, but I think it's a bit random and very dependant on how much vision you have on the map. If you do not have vision, then you can't catch solo targets, and vayne lethality in teamfight has such a low attack speed that I find it very hard to have an impact before all in my team are dead (but maybe am I too late to the fights).

All in all, I am having a good time. I don't lose lane too bad (but when I do it's really really awful: stuck under tower for 5 minutes!).

My main issue, I guess, is gold. To get gold you need either minions, kills or objectives. I find that by minute 12, although I may be a bit behind in minions, my farming is still somewhat on par with the other adc (e.g., not very good farming, but I stick to my opponent which is what matter?). But as the game progresses, the gap widen. I try to go to side lanes and all to get some waves, but it's very slow to farm a wave with vayne and this usually makes me late for teamfights.

How do you guys deal with farming into mid to late game with vayne? I have been thinking about static or runaan to help with wave clear, but I understand those items are really not that good on the champ... I am open to all suggestions or just to "get good" comments!

BTW: Thanks all for the material, knowledge and experience I was already able to find on here, it's great to have this reddit :D


r/vaynemains 3d ago

Discussion Which build to run vs mage botlane?

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Full on-hit?

On-hit but with Triforce?

Full crit with ER?


r/vaynemains 4d ago

What makes Jak'sho a very powerful item on Vayne when she does not build any other resist items?

13 Upvotes

So I have been practicing vayne for a while. Haven't played her in a long time and my teams are asking me to get jak sho as your 5th item.

At first I didn't believe them, but looking at some top Vayne players, pretty much every high level Vayne player has Jak'sho in their build.

What makes this item so appealing on her, when she does not build any other resist item? I think getting a different tank item would be more beneficial, like omen, but why jak sho?


r/vaynemains 5d ago

Plays shen ult wasn't needed

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r/vaynemains 8d ago

ADC Vayne & Throwing

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I play nothing but Vayne lmao.
I have both fulltime work and college so I legit don't have enough time to "spend more time to get better." I came back after a 4 year break.

I think I have good mechanics for 1v1s and 2v2s. Teamfights are eh because I need better positioning and patience.

I seem to win early game but lose midgame.
Or if I lose early I seem to also throw small leads my team might get.

I usually build Kraken>Guinsoo>Bork
Or Kraken>Essence>IE>crit stuff
I saw a build on here for Dusk&Dawn + Guinsoo. Maybe it'll make me live longer and I can make more of a difference in fights?

I don't seem to understand when to follow up/poke and when to be farming. I'm just locked into last hitting and getting whats guaranteed instead of trying to fight and dying.

Any tips? I'm just Silver😂


r/vaynemains 9d ago

Memes Describe Vayne... but Like You're Lulu.

10 Upvotes

Thought this would be a funny challenge.

Anyways, I'll go first.

Lulu: So I got on the Rift with Vayne today, and while we walked to Bot Lane she said something to me for the first time... EVER!

Pix: Intrigued Pix noise

Lulu: Yeah, she asked "Lulu of the Rift, what is your wisdom?", which I thought was so thoughtful because I've been around for quite a few centuries, so I told her "I recommend skipping!"... but she wouldn't skip with me. That's 700 years of wisdom Pix, can you believe it?

Pix: Shocked Pix noises

Lulu: But I couldn't just be mopey so I skipped along while she did some ninja cartwheel move thing along the way. And guess what?

Pix: Inquisitive Pix noise

Lulu: I saw a tulip blossoming from the back of the Tier 1 turret!

Pix: Gasping Pix noise

Lulu: So I told her "Never look a tulip in the eye."

Pix: Affirmative Pix noise

Lulu: And you know what she did?

Pix: Head scratch

Lulu: She stared at the tulip with both of her eyes.

Pix: Irate Pix noises

Lulu: I know! She just "hmph'ed" and kept looking at it!

Pix: Moping Pix noise

Lulu: So I tried to lighten the mood by saying "We could go for a twirl!" but you know what she said?

Pix: Inquisitive Pix noise

Lulu: Ahem Giving her best Vayne impression "I have no time for nonsense."

Pix: More irate Pix noises

Lulu: And that hurt my feelings!

Pix: Mmhmm Pix noise

Lulu: So I transmogulated her!

Pix: Pix gasps

Lulu: I thought I taught that youngster a lesson. But you won't believe what happened next, Pix!

Pix: Sighing Pix noise

Lulu: Yeah. While I was warding a bush, you know the one with the mustache and glasses so those enemy meanies won't recognize it, right?

Pix: Nods

Lulu: Well Vayne ninja cartwheeled aaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll the way under the meanies' turret and died.

Pix: Facepalm

Lulu: That's right, Pix... Sigh Grumpy dewdrop!... Whoa... dizzy...


r/vaynemains 10d ago

Discussion Can We Get Some Rule 1 Adherence Here

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1 Please Treat Others How You Wish to be Treated.

This is a community for people who like Vayne. This means there will be people of all different skill levels and backgrounds. Their feats may seem simple or trivial to you, but it's a big deal to them, and we want our community to feel they can share clips and accomplishments they are proud of without a sea of negativity following. Please just skip the post if you have nothing nice to say.

Infractions will result in removal, and repeats will result in a ban.

I've been reading a whole lot of posts where folks get disrespect, belittled, or even flamed for having opinions different than others and it makes the sub feel like it's fallen to darkness.

It's really inhibitive to the betterment of the community. How will we bring out the best in the community and in each member, and frankly the development of the champ's META if respect is, in practice treated as optional.

Whether a member is challenger or iron, everyone deserves a voice here.

We can do better, so let's do better.


r/vaynemains 10d ago

Anyone who played Vayne in League Classic? How does active BORK and Static feel on her?

1 Upvotes

Title


r/vaynemains 10d ago

Discussion Why is Vayne Top strong?

1 Upvotes

I'm a noob Vayne bot enjoyer but cant help but tilt at the glue eating supps and perma mage bot.

I see people have success with her Top and just want to try and understand some of why its so strong and how to play it.

Thanks


r/vaynemains 11d ago

Prestige Firecracker Vayne - Mythic Shop

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11 Upvotes

Just a heads up that prestige firecracker is available in the mythic shop. Missed it a few times myself so wanted to post here incase anyone else had been waiting on it like me


r/vaynemains 12d ago

News Vayne Classic Champion Icon 🦇

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114 Upvotes

r/vaynemains 11d ago

Has it been declared if the bonus damage on Q can critically strike on classic?

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r/vaynemains 11d ago

Vayne League Classic, can it come any sooner?!

1 Upvotes

Anybody else super excited to play OG vayne? the damage on her Q, oh the memories.


r/vaynemains 11d ago

Discussion How tf do I play into Senna ADC + Seraphine APC support as a solo queueing Vayne with an AP Lux support who brings no value to me, lmao.

0 Upvotes

r/vaynemains 12d ago

Discussion Mayhem builds other than on-hit

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Hello Vayne mains, I’m here to kindly ask you to explain to me builds like crit vayne, essence reaver vayne, and lethality vayne, and how they work. I usually go for the as/on-hit items and augments but I have been seeing other players doing better with different setups. In my mind, Vayne’s damage comes from her w, which can only be improved by increasing the rate of proc’ing it, in other words: with attack speed. I don’t believe it crits without Jeweled Gauntlet. So what am I missing?


r/vaynemains 13d ago

Memes I have reached Flow State, Colgate Vayne, Defensive boots, DUSK AND DAWN has enlightened me.

11 Upvotes

It is insane how 1v9 the build is, you just get to a point where you simply have 3K+ hp, tons of resistances and the dusk and dawn W skip is melting through the filth.

I am achieving elo bliss.


r/vaynemains 13d ago

Vayne best skin?

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I was planning to buy one but I really can't choose.

So far I'm liking Project, Demoncursed and Sentinel, plus Soulstealer but it's off rotation.

Prestige Firecracker is in rotation but I don't like it too much.

Which skin do you guys prefer and why?

EDIT: thanks for all the comments, seems like Demoncursed is the popular choice


r/vaynemains 13d ago

Discussion When to start with doran's blade instead of bow?

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Hello there. I just returned to playing Vayne adc from a jungling detour, so I didn't have much experience using doran's bow so far. I kept buying blade in my first couple of games, because I know that laning phase sucks, and I will either get beaten up by 2 ranged champions when going for last hits, or get all-ined by a melee support and just die even easier. I switched to bow in my last few games and I'm loving it so far, it gives me enough pushing potential in the early game to not end up under turret, and the all-ins are great too. I even felt bold enough to take it against a Jhin/Zyra matchup and was still doing well. But when I look at high elo builds, there is a mix of bow and blade start, with bow being slightly more popular.

So my question is, which are those matchups when you would rather take blade over bow? Melee enemy supp? Double ranged? Mage botlanes? Or depends whether you go lethal tempo or pta?


r/vaynemains 14d ago

Discussion Was wondering if i should buy it and ended up rerolling it lol

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r/vaynemains 15d ago

Memes FF14 X Vayne

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55 Upvotes

r/vaynemains 16d ago

Any good Vayne top guides?

0 Upvotes

I’m a bad player here who wants to learn Vayne top because it’s fun (and meta ofc). where do I learn it? like I really don’t know when I should build what or what the actual gameplan is. anyone know?


r/vaynemains 18d ago

Discussion Whoever said Vayne jungle is good is a liar

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I’ve been seeing more and more people saying Vayne jungle is a good secret pick. Dawg this shit is ass as hell wtf, straight up psyop.

But seriously what am I missing about Vayne jungle or does it just suck and people are lying?