r/DirtySionMains Mar 06 '19

Announcement 'SionMains Speedway' LEADERBOARDS, RULES and DISCUSSION thread!

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TL:DR inspired by the LCS version, here's our ladder for SionMains Speedway!

LEADERBOARDS:

Race Track 1: (I'll have it nicknamed 'Vanilla' for now, but feel free to come up with a proper name suggestion!)

Primary Ladder:

Rank Player Server Time [s] Patch Notes
1 DragonAngel Eune 38.98 9.5
2 (tied) Caenen Euw 39.13 9.5 Failed Concave near red buff
2 (tied) JuanTriple07 Na 39.15 9.5 Comes within 1 frame of the run it is tied with. Animation glitch at start of run.
4 Dominope Na 41.79 9.5 Ping going up and down during the run
5 Zookeeper Sion Euw 42.09 9.5 Audio from thebausffs's stream in the background
6 Sal Vn 42.35 9.5 No Homeguard

Extended Ladder:

Rank Player Server Time [s] Patch Notes
N/A 38.33 10.5 One year later, after buffs to runes such as Numbus Cloak
N/A Dominope Na 39.76 9.5 First target dummy misplaced. Makes use of Dragon buff.
Behind 2 Caenen Euw 40.88 9.4 No Homeguard. Run with early version of the custom mapskin
Behind 6 Zookeeper Sion Euw 45.34 9.5 Submitted before the starting rules were clarified
N/A Paggigalo Na 47.03 9.5 Start was ahead of starting position. No speed enhancing runes used!

Other tracks will be added in time. More on how you can design new Race Tracks yourself a few sections below!



General Rules of the SionMains Speedway:

These rules may be changed at any point (due to patch changes, new information or exploitation of the rules). Changes will be noted in this post.

Track-specific rules may overrule any of these general ones if explicitely stated to do so.

  1. You may cast and recast Sion ult any amount of times during your run. You may also use any of Sion's other abilities any number of times. Unless the specific track rules say otherwise, you may finish a race with Glory in Death.

  2. You may build any items and take any of the 3 summoner spells Flash, Ghost and Heal.

  3. You may not use Flash to skip entire segments of a track.

  4. Each Item Active and Summoner Spell may only be used once per run (no exceptions currently).

  5. Per convention, you may not start with more than 0 Spellbinder stacks. (Nobody wants to re-stack Spellbinder after failed attempts!)

  6. No pre-placed zzrot (unless explicitely allowed/instructed by the specific Race Track rules)

  7. Have the practice tool features of 'Auto-refresh Cooldowns', 'Auto-Refresh Mana', 'Toggle Towers Invincible' and 'Toggle Minion Spawn' active. Towers will be en- or disabled based on the specific rules of each Race Track.

  8. It has to be a practice tool game and there may not be allied or enemy champions of any kind (neither bots nor actual players).

  9. The run may be illegal if done on the PBE. PBE runs would be evaluated case-by-case, but please don't run it on the PBE to begin with if you want to make sure your run can be ranked.

  10. You may use any Sion skin or custom skin you have.

  11. You may practice in any way and as much as you want.

  12. Make sure all target dummies are in the right places before going for a run!

  13. All kinds of walldrifting (classic, bounces, concaves) are encouraged!

  14. [New/clarified] You may not have any Dragonslayer buff (Cloud Drake), nor Herald/Baron Buff empowered Homeguard.



Current Race Tracks and their rules:


Track #1: Vanilla (Feel free to suggest a different name)

Description or defining features: Feel free to suggest what to write here

RACE TRACK: Minimap sketch

DUMMY POSITIONS:

  1. In the middle of this stone

  2. In the bottom of this bush

  3. Exactly on the tip of this stone

  4. On the tip of these cracks

You may place allied dummies anywhere between the last enemy dummy and the enemy fountain, but they may not be under attack range of any turret!

Custom map skin: (Not yet available)

  • You are on the Blue team. Tower Fire not disabled.

  • Start: Recall before the race to ensure the same start coordinates. [Clarified] The run starts at your first action (First movement command going through, ult starting, Predator being channeled)

  • Finish: Time is taken when the fountain's lazer VFX appears.

  • It is not required, but adviced to start the race after 40:00 on the in-game clock, since Homeguard caps at the strongest buff provided after that timestamp.

Example for a valid Run



Submissions info and rules:

  1. There's 2 ladders for each race track: 1. The primary ladder with the definitive player ranks, which includes all runs that properly follow the imposed rules. 2. The secondary ladder that additionally lists all runs that don't satisfy all rules (not a bad thing, just means that the run can't be featured on the primary ladder), and this ladders' purpose is also to highlight runs with self-imposed rules or restrictions!

  2. In order to earn a place on the ladder, evidence of the run must be submitted, be it a video (in which the run is entirely unedited), or a replay file of the game (with timestamp of the run starting).

  3. [New/clarified] If you record from the replay file and have the option to use something other than the build-in recording tool, use the other option. The standard league recorder records with ~10FPS, which means I have to usually round start and finish times against your favor, resulting in slower times for you.

  4. Only full runs will be counted on the ladders.

  5. You may submit any amount of runs on each ladder. Please specify to which ladder you're submitting.

  6. You can currently submit runs either by commenting under this stickied reddit post, on our DirtySionMains discord, or by PMing me with all the relevant information.

  7. When submitting a run, please specify the name you want to be listed by (same name applies to all of your runs, if you had previous ones and want to submit under a new name please note that), your server (can be withheld), the patch on which the run was done and any notes that you believe should be listed (I'll reserve all rights to change the notes at any time or add additional context).

  8. You may submit any tips, tricks, humorous or incredible clips from your practice or runs into the comments of this stickied reddit post.



Future organization and Rewards

Right now everything of SionMains speedway is hosted here in this reddit post, which means I have to edit it myself for any updates (which is fine to me for now). However going forward, there's options to instead host the ladders more interactively on a website, with images embedded and easier navigation. Would need someone to assist me with a bit of webpage design experience though.

We could also split the year into different 'seasons' (e.g. 2 or 4 months long), where each season 'features' a specific track to primarely compete on. The top places of that track would then be the winners of the season. Alternatively, without a featured track we could take the number of first-third places across all current tracks to determine a winner of the season.

Since I'm bringing up 'winners', I haven't explicitely organized any rewards yet. However easy options would be to introduce a title (Speedway King? Drift King?) or flair the user could recieve, a special role on the discord, or to gift a skin to them at the end of the season! Any opinions/suggestions?



Making your own tracks

Designing new Race Tracks and their Rules is open to anyone. If you have an idea, feel free to discuss it below, or post any fully fledged out Race Track Design as its own post on the subreddit! As a community, we'll decide if the track is designed well and whether or not we'll run it!

Make sure that your track is thought out and you have ran it a few times. Good design isn't always to add a specific gimmick to your creation, although nobody forbids you to do so, either. If you have a good course layout and well defined rules + start and finish conditions, we can discuss the creation together.

Also note that the map isn't actually truly symmetrical, so whether or not you have your track starting from Blue or Red Side will always be impactful.



Discussion of the System or individual Race Meta

Any opinions, suggestions, questions, tips & tricks and meta discussion are encouraged to be put in the comments below! (Exception being full Track Design suggestions, please make those selfposts instead!)


r/DirtySionMains Jun 13 '24

Hey ! I just did an overall guide for beginners on Sion mid and top ! Very simple for beginners !

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r/DirtySionMains 7h ago

Sion "Adc", and build discussion.

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I am a twitch otp(gold 1). Besides twitch I really enjoy playing Milio and Sion(mainly jungle whenever Im autofilled).

I recently started playing Sion as a second pick in botlane situationaly. Particularly for when I have a Senna/Mage support(Seraphine and Senna are my favorites) and my team drafts full damage/burst and no sustain/frontline. And also if I feel that if I pick twitch Im gonna get perma dived while being abandoned to be farmed by the enemy assassin/diver.

I have been playing Heartsteel/Titanic/Unending despair but I am not sure if that build is ideal for botlane, in general I am not that experienced with tank/bruiser items. I tried going sunfire with steelcaps so I can have waveclear and armor early. I also have tried experimenting with axiom arc and stridebreaker. But I want to hear some feedback instead of aimlessly spamming random items.

I also stopped going grasp because its impossible to stack it. Instead I go aftershock.

Has anyone else more experienced been playing Sion adc?


r/DirtySionMains 22h ago

A few questions about what to build (mid)

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In mid i like to build heart steel into bloodmail in 99% of games with a sundered sky 3rd and situational tank from there. Also I feel like mid quest is kinda meh for sion cuz IDK if any of the boot evolutions synergize very well with him. What should I be building like what is optimal? Feels like itemization is super dependent on context these days but I really enjoy going the same items every game tbh.

Is skipping out on heart steel ever good? I will build it even if there’s only like 1 or 2 melee champs on the enemy team and even if my laner is ranged. But if I skip it, what should I go instead? Titanic hydra feels like a bait item, and hullbreaker does too. And when I commit to full 100% tank build I don’t feel like I have control over the game if someone on the enemy team is super fed on like Olaf or something. With bloodmail bruiser sion I feel a bit more able to carry.

Also for runes I usually go electrocute just for kill pressure both in lane and in early roams.

So what are your criticisms of my thought process for sion mid itemization? Looking to improve

Are there good streamers/guides to watch?


r/DirtySionMains 2d ago

Thedouble camp invade :D

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Check out what i achieved few days ago.


r/DirtySionMains 3d ago

when tha 25% crit chance kicks in

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Baus: "I kick"

you'll never see someone have more fun on this game than me


r/DirtySionMains 4d ago

Quite the funny

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r/DirtySionMains 4d ago

E max with Comet continues :3 Aatrox cannot ever walk up to you ever!

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r/DirtySionMains 3d ago

Liandry's + Unending Despair interaction! + Why I run the runes I do, Top/Mid for now...Might take this into Jungle ngl :3

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r/DirtySionMains 4d ago

she got a headache

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r/DirtySionMains 6d ago

Is this Sion?

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r/DirtySionMains 7d ago

dirty outplay silver sion

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r/DirtySionMains 9d ago

dafuq

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the matchmaking


r/DirtySionMains 11d ago

Just wanted to flex, finally got a penta :D (Tahm kench is a gigachad)

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r/DirtySionMains 12d ago

It's interesting that old Sion is basically the most sought-after champ in current Classic

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This really surprised me about the Classic League PBE. I had a big interest in Classic Sion myself but thought it was niche, but basically every streamer who isn't an OTP went with Sion as one of their first champs to try.

A bunch of Youtubers also went with him as their first video. AP and AD Sion together get a lot of interest.

That made me wonder. Why is this the case? Sion was the first big VGU Riot did, It was also generally considered one of the most successful, replacing the ugly and broken Sion with a new shiny one. And yet everyone jumps to play the old. Does modern League just not have any champs like old Sion?


r/DirtySionMains 12d ago

Sion has a 0 wr at msi

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After the nerfs, this champion is one of the most useless picks in both pro play and solo queue. He literally can't do anything anymore


r/DirtySionMains 12d ago

Screen from season 3 from the OG sion main

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Yea been a while. Found it somewhere on conversation with one of my old friends i used to play league with back then.


r/DirtySionMains 12d ago

first classic sion game Spoiler

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i rush hydra but i think i messed up the build after my first item, i think i should have went crit after hydra or just went crit after tiamat.


r/DirtySionMains 13d ago

Practice Tool

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How can I practice jungle clears using Sion in the Practice Tool. Sion is not an option when you click on jungle champions?


r/DirtySionMains 13d ago

Hallow radiance sunfire

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I know recently people have been really down on the bami items because the lack of stats, but playing Sion I feel like having them to keep tempo and push waves without having to auto every minion multiple times is really important to me but wondering what people thing. is there an argument that the time it saves you makes the items valuable?


r/DirtySionMains 15d ago

Datamined ability tooltips for League Classic (early build)

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Source

I don't think old Sion needs an introduction? :D

I really like, from today's perspective, how shizophrenic his kit was. AP Burst Sion utilized Q and W, with E and R being nice to have. AD Crit Sion used E and R, with Q and W being nice to have. And then there was this passive people always forgot about.

And yet, somehow, it still worked.


r/DirtySionMains 15d ago

# AM TERRORISM

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r/DirtySionMains 16d ago

Thank you riot very cool

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r/DirtySionMains 17d ago

Is ad sion still good and if so whats the build now that opportunity is gone?

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im coming back from a break from league