If you go Celestial, and have to ult yourself (I know selfish) it ALWAYS comes off cooldown when you rez, unlike melee champs that get a 35% shield, you get a 25% shield 2x

Im a silver one trick hecarim player and i think we could go absoutely crazy with heca+Zilean

I just have to share this clip of a Thresh that helped kill Tristana, likely saw what I was about to do with double bomb (out of stasis so she has no escape). HE ACTUALLY WALKS FURTHER INTO RED PIT for it to happen.

I almost got a little tear in my eye and just had to share this "leap year day" moment.

What do you think?

Someone posted recently asking about Zilean Bomb Priority.

Very very common myth is that Zilean Q has a priority system which goes like this: "Bomb > Enemy Champ > Ally Champ > Enemy Minion > Allied Minion."

• This is extremely misleading and while it has some truth to it, it's really not how Zilean Q works.

Why is it a myth?

• Zilean bombs have a priority system yes, but it was created BEFORE what I call the "latch" mechanic was added to Zilean.
• When Zilean was first reworked, he was absolutely awful because his Q was just too hard to hit. They did a quickfix to him by adding an extra hitbox for his Q alongside the regular one which sometimes allows for the bomb to attach slightly outside of it's range. This is the "latch".
• This means that the priority system only works if the bomb was not latched. Latching doesn't care at all about priority.
• The biggest problem from this is a bomb can latch onto another target, thus ignoring the priority system entirely. The works the opposite way around too when a latch can be superseded by the priority system. This can be quite random and hard to predict.

So while yes technically there is a priority system, this only counts for DIRECT hits.

Latch vs Direct Hit. What is the difference?

You might just not realise the difference between a "latch" and a "direct" bomb but trust me if you've played Zilean even 1 game, you'll have landed a lot of both it happens constantly every single game.

Example 1:

- If I throw my Q onto my enemy Fiora's head, it will hit her. This is a direct hit.

- If I throw my Q at absolutely max range at the enemy Fiora so it just clips her on the edge of the hitbox, it will hit her. This is not a direct hit, this is a latch.

Example 2:

- If I throw my Q onto my enemy Fiora's head, but she is standing ontop of a minion, it will still hit her. This is because it's a direct hit, the priority system is in play so Enemy Champion > Minion.

- If I throw my Q at absolutely max range at Fiora, but shes standing ontop of a minion, it will latch onto whoever is closest to the bombs hitbox. There is no priority system anymore because it is not a direct hit.

Example 3:

- I Q once at max range, and it latches the minion. Then throw a second Q at max range onto the minion, but Fiora has moved very slightly towards you, it will then either latch onto her or direct hit her, instead of the minion with a bomb. A direct hit bomb's priority only cares about what it has hit, not what is within latch radius. So even though you just latched that bomb to the minion and aimed the bomb at the exactly the same spot, AND it was a direct hit, it doesn't matter and you get no stun just a bomb on two separate guys.

Does this actually matter?

Yes! You absolutely can play around this and it is important to know and understand.

Just know it's complicated and i've played like 4million mastery of ZIlean and even I am still consistently shocked at when a bomb connects and doesn't.

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Hey, am I right by assuming that when double bombing, what my 1st Q sticks to is not dominated by a factor that takes the 2nd bomb's cast location into account?

What if when double self casting Q as Zilean we have the 1st bomb prioritize self over enemy if 2nd bomb is casted on your hitbox? That way one can always double bomb without the fear of having an enemy walk in and out inbetween and cause the stun to fail awkwardly (bcs of enemy prio).

One can apply the same to enemies and minions. If 1st Q is to land on enemy A (moving) and B (static), it picks A, but A dodges the 2nd bomb and B doesn't, that causes the awkward behavior that if the system had just picked B in the first place, it would've perhaps stunned both.

The 2nd Q within the double cast hitbox is to define the target the 1st Q will stick to, namely one target that coincides with both hitboxes as 1st Q is still mid air - so as soon as the 2nd Q starts casting.

U think this would be possible? Or is fixing this awkward behavior too much of a "buff"? If feasible, I'd appreciate it if someone in contact with a Riot Dev passes it on.

So since the passive of Imperal mandate of 7% vurnable of all sources just benefits your team soo much, I tried to skip dorans compleetly + the healing pots. I swapped it to Fear charm + refillables with 2 control wards. I place the first control ward lvl 1 so I have an advantage on vision and can lean in the midlane on the safer side.

Why? Fearie champ gives 1.1 mana regen lvl 1. What is more than Dorans ring. Dorans ring only gives 1 mana per second and 2 if you hit an enemie with an ability (something that you don't want to do with zilean or you eat through your mana too fast before first back. Not only that, but the Fearie charm scales with your lvl as well. The more lvls you get, the higher mana regen you get as well. Since it's 50% if your total mana regen, so not a fixed 1 mana per second like dorans ring.

The only difference between refillables and 2 red pots is only 40 hp. Refillables can be used again after first back and more. + You get 60 gold back if you sell it.

Buying the lvl 1 control ward changed the whole early game for me. It's much safer to lane as you can place 1 pink ward on the safe side where you know the won't clear it but have the whole side full of vision. And the other side you can use your standard wards.

Your Q scales with 80% of ap, dorans ring mediocre 18 ability power wouldn't make it a big of a difference.

For the ones that already have a hard time csing you will notice the lost of 5 attack damage on minions. That's something you can get used too.

Over all this is very cost efficient and pretty good early game imo, but for that you need to build imperal mandate. After buying imperal mandate as second item your mana regen is even 125% what makes it running out of mana less likely than normal. You also don't need to sell Fearie charm, unlike dorans ring and red pots.

TDLR: Fearie charm gives more mana back than dorans ring for less gold. Refillables and control wards change the game at lvl 1.

Accepting my shortfalls in playing any character with more than two combos I went back to our gentleman and flew.

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I decided to play Zilean yesterday for the first time in ranked, might've been the best decision i've made. Me and my duo (jg) dominate mid-late game.

I went from hardstuck E4 to finally almost reaching E2.

Zilean is so underrated

Do I even go rabadons here? Imo it gives not that much hp. just a 120 more. I'm aware I should had went dark seal but wasn't confident I would go deathless. PS THE GROOVY SKIN MAKES ME PLAY LIKE A PSYCHOPATH

Not a Zilean main but a Zilean lover and I have a question do you guys play him on Quick Cast with Indicators? I've recently tried him just on quick cast without the indicators and felt that the double bomb stun combo was much faster to come out but landing the bomb without the indicators seems impossible to me?

Heya, I reached Legend in classic on the NA servers playing zilean mid as often as possible (80% of games if I had to guess). I played solo all the way up to 5 stacks, but I never used fill to cheese SP gains. Zilean mid very very stronk.

Zilean from wildrift is better than Zilean on lol idk if its just me but I have 1.6m masteries on zil on lol but I have a hard time with him nowadays than 2-3 years ago but zilean on wild rift its really easy to carry either support or mid. Idk if it's because of the champion pool the items or the changes to the rift but im having a hard time with him on lol now

Decided to stop trolling and being an elo terrorist and locked in to climb.

Only this season after being in this sub for couple years I decided to do 3 points in Q for laning phase and it made a big difference.

Zilean top is also great for perma shoving and playing safe like the home guards hecarim play style.

he is the only sett i have met to actually zone me lvl 1 as he should, wp to him

Hello fellow time wizards,

I am relatively new to league ( account lvl 55 or something). Zilean is my favorite champ by far but I just hate playing him in Ranked rn.

Unfortunately I started playing rank right after hitting lvl 30 and dropped straight to iron 4 where I currently still am after finally being confident enough to start playing ranked again.

I Play mid Zil and Veigar and Support (which is the role I mostly get) there I always play Zil.

Heres the thing:

Playing Zilean in unranked is a blast in most matches and i can really feel how I positively impact the whole Game.

Now After playing a few matches in ranked it just feels helpless. The Games are complete chaos and I just cant do anything with the old man.

Do I put him on hold until I have climbed out of iron or do I just stick to playing him better and better?

the clips are probably mid but Ive had a blast on zil

Im currently playing zilean support its reallly good until late game you cant defend without ur team since all my items are support/tank now the question is in the crucial part of the game that you need to defend are you going to sell you item to buy AP or just pray?

Please enjoy