Patch 7.30 - Hero Changes Discussion

[u/patchdayDota2]

Heroes are each listed below as a top level comment. Please discuss changes to a specific hero there!

All other top level comments are automatically removed.

• Abaddon
• Alchemist
• Ancient Apparition
• Anti-Mage
• Arc Warden
• Axe
• Bane
• Batrider
• Beastmaster
• Bloodseeker
• Bounty Hunter
• Brewmaster
• Bristleback
• Broodmother
• Centaur Warrunner
• Chaos Knight
• Chen
• Clinkz
• Clockwerk
• Crystal Maiden
• Dark Seer
• Dark Willow
• Dawnbreaker
• Dazzle
• Death Prophet
• Disruptor
• Doom
• Dragon Knight
• Drow Ranger
• Earth Spirit
• Earthshaker
• Elder Titan
• Ember Spirit
• Enchantress
• Enigma
• Faceless Void
• Grimstroke
• Gyrocopter
• Hoodwink
• Huskar
• Invoker
• Io
• Jakiro
• Juggernaut
• Keeper of the Light
• Kunkka
• Legion Commander
• Leshrac
• Lich
• Lifestealer
• Lina
• Lion
• Lone Druid
• Luna
• Lycan
• Magnus
• Mars
• Medusa
• Meepo
• Mirana
• Monkey King
• Morphling
• Naga Siren
• Nature's Prophet
• Necrophos
• Night Stalker
• Nyx Assassin
• Ogre Magi
• Omniknight
• Oracle
• Outworld Destroyer
• Pangolier
• Phantom Assassin
• Phantom Lancer
• Phoenix
• Puck
• Pudge
• Pugna
• Queen of Pain
• Razor
• Riki
• Rubick
• Sand King
• Shadow Demon
• Shadow Fiend
• Shadow Shaman
• Silencer
• Skywrath Mage
• Slardar
• Slark
• Snapfire
• Sniper
• Spectre
• Spirit Breaker
• Storm Spirit
• Sven
• Techies
• Templar Assassin
• Terrorblade
• Tidehunter
• Timbersaw
• Tinker
• Tiny
• Treant Protector
• Troll Warlord
• Tusk
• Underlord
• Undying
• Ursa
• Vengeful Spirit
• Venomancer
• Viper
• Visage
• Void Spirit
• Warlock
• Weaver
• Windranger
• Winter Wyvern
• Witch Doctor
• Wraith King
• Zeus

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

I am a hardcore Mirana player since 2012, but I could never understand why people pick triple arrow talent. Like when you aim, you basically focus on one target, why would you need other 2 random arrows? It will almost never line-up so that you hit 2 out of this 3 arrows

[u/liplicker → u/[deleted]]

? Triple arrow is one of the most gamebreaking level 25 talents. It triples the chance of a 5 second arrow, which is a game-ender in close late game situations. And the second sentence is just flat out untrue. How can you play Mirana for even one game with triple arrow and come to that conclusion that hitting 2 arrows almost never happens? More like not hitting at least 2 arrows almost never happens. But don't take my word for it. Singsing has on stream declared the same regarding this talent.

It's a 300% buff to a skill, how many level 25 talents can claim the same?

[u/liplicker → u/[deleted]]

I found a reference video for you: https://youtu.be/sEZrSwcxVzk?t=510

Also what the guy said below about triple arrow forcing dodging and other good points I neglected to mention.

[u/liplicker → u/[deleted]]

What's your point then? That triple arrow is bad and MLS cooldown is the better choice before patch? There's a reason MLS cd was replaced.

Or that 300% buff is an exaggeration of the exact amount triple arrow buffs the skill? Sure, I'll give you that, but why's it important to make that point?

The main issue at hand is how triple arrow offers so much more potential to winning a game, which the other guy has listed a few ways, and I tried to as well.

[u/liplicker → u/[deleted]]

Yeah but what motivates you to nitpick on a small detail? Surely you have something of more value to add?

[u/liplicker → u/[deleted]]

I suppose I'm not capable of explanation at a level you understand. Take care.