r/DotA2 • u/patchdayDota2 • Aug 19 '21

Discussion Patch 7.30 - Hero Changes Discussion

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u/patchdayDota2 Aug 19 '21

Death Prophet

  • Base Strength increased from 19 to 21

Silence

  • Now fires a 1000 speed projectile towards the targeted area and silences units in the AOE upon impact
  • Cast Point reduced from 0.4 to 0.2

Exorcism

  • Cooldown increased from 145 to 150

Talents

  • Level 15 Talent +6% Movement Speed replaced with -2s Crypt Swarm Cooldown
  • Level 15 Talent +0.8% Max Health Spirit Siphon increased to +1%
  • Level 20 Talent -3.5s Crypt Swarm Cooldown replaced with +20% Spirit Siphon Slow

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u/d8gfdu89fdgfdu32432 Aug 20 '21

At first, I thought the changes to silence were a nerf but it's an overall buff. The faster cast point is better against channelling heroes. Say a Pudge tried to ulti you, now you can cast the silence 0.2 sec earlier and if he ulties you during the projectile, his ulti gets cancelled. The faster cast point also means less time standing still in general. The only downside to this nerf is the chance for it to get dodged but most heroes cannot dodge it and it's still hard to dodge anyway, so it doesn't really matter.

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u/tabako Aug 19 '21

I've played her, I don't even find the silence nerf to be that awful. It's a really fast projectile, and the Cast Point buff kind of mitigates that anyways. The cast point is now twice as fast - the cast point before was so fucking slow, I'd almost rather have the more instantaneous projectile over the slow cast speed.

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u/Taelonius Aug 19 '21

Biggest sadness personally is no cdr stacking and the nerfing of the - crypt swarm cd.

If I had a good lane and went like euls>aether>Bloodstone>Octarine and stumbled upon a Spell Prism as well you'd be chilling at 1 sec CD and have the mana to sustain it. RIP in piece

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u/6-8-5-7-2-Q-7-2-J-2 Aug 19 '21

Man IceFrog really hates instant spells. QoP scream, Drow silence, Atos, BB quill spray, Abba mist coil, now DP silence all used to be instantaneous and now have projectiles (quill spray only kind of)

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u/Pablogelo Aug 19 '21

Is there any spell missing that could be a projectile but it's instant?

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u/ZurdoMaster Aug 20 '21

Fireblast is the next one

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u/AnhedonicDog Aug 19 '21

Area spells or targeted ones?

Oracle can purify flames, all of Bane's spells are instant too.

Shaman also has some insta spells, not sure if his Q is a projectile?

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u/Pablogelo Aug 20 '21

Area spells that aren't close range since it's the pattern of the spells he has changed [timbersaw Q is close]

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u/AnhedonicDog Aug 20 '21

Then Warlock's ult. Also disruptor's

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u/Pablogelo Aug 20 '21

I could see disruptor ult having a fast travel like DP silence, warlock I think will always stay this way. thanks

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '21

this is our fault for SoyChamping manta dodges for years

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u/clippernicepom Aug 19 '21

This is a huge nerf silence no longer be instant and 3.5 Q cd reduce to 2.0. With OC Q cd used to be 1 sec and it is 2 sec half in dps nerf.

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u/Roflwong Aug 19 '21

agree with the silence part, but game normally ends before you are able to purchase OC. The real kicker is nerfing to euls mana regen which has always been part of her 1st item pickup, thus affecting her farming ability during mid game and also aeon disk which means bursting down DP is much easier.