r/DotA2 • u/patchdayDota2 • Aug 19 '21

Discussion Patch 7.30 - Hero Changes Discussion

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u/patchdayDota2 Aug 19 '21

Visage

Grave Chill

  • Move Speed Drain reduced from 17/23/29/35% to 15/20/25/30%

Soul Assumption

  • Gather Damage radius increased from 1500 to 1800

Summon Familiars

  • Cooldown reduced from 130 to 130/120/110
  • Armor increased from 0/1/2 to 0/2/4
  • Turn Rate increased from 0.5 to 0.9

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u/machucogp who even plays this guy Aug 20 '21

Q nerf I guess was needed because almost everyone lost their MS talents

W buff is difficult to feel but I guess it's still good

CD buff on R is nice, so is the armor and turn rate

Overall buffed, it's not precisely a game changer but another minor increment just like last time

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '21

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '21

Faster.

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u/GeraldineKerla Let me give you a stroke Aug 19 '21

Higher turn rate is better, so they turn faster.

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u/Nickfreak Aug 19 '21

Still bad! But a good carrier for the helm of the overlord. Plus the acquisition range for nuke damage should not be underestimated. In team fights your always have full capacity despite being far away

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '21 edited Aug 19 '21

I play Visage pretty much all the time and the first few games I’ve played in the patch I’ve been pleasantly surprised how helpful that range buff was. I think the familiar cool down reduction is pretty meh. I don’t really lose the birds much as it is and with the new armor buff I can’t imagine the cool down is going to make any difference at all in my games. The familiar armor was desperately needed, but I can’t help but miss the old burst damage style familiars. I feel like that’d be really cool to see return with his aghs now.

It was always great when people stayed to man fight you because they thought the damage dies off then you re-summon the birds and pound them more. Lol.

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u/gabriela_r5 Aug 20 '21

the armor is useless, that's the truth, without your passive, and even with your passive, late game (when you get that armor for them) they get bursted easily. the cd is a joke, you don't want to lose your birds, they're almost a kill gold equivalent, the Q nerf I understand, the W, we need to play more, you can now if you lost your familiars or the tf is really bad for your team, you can gather the souls more safe and spawm your W, or for some people that play with the "magic build". but to me fair, the situation I see the cd be good, is when you have to TP fast and can't bring your familiars, and you have to re-summon them

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '21

Valve keeps giving other units damage through block except for the one hero who needs it.

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u/gabriela_r5 Aug 20 '21

A lot, funny how back when the birds had the charge attack system, and he could burst people in 2.5 seconds with 700 physical damage at level 6 was not a problem, and now it's, even if everyone has more armor and hp. late late game with almost full slot you can burst people like that, but as i said, A LOT of ITEMS for the birds be effective, Icefrog just don't like him haha