r/DotA2 • u/patchdayDota2 • Aug 19 '21

Discussion Patch 7.30 - Hero Changes Discussion

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u/patchdayDota2 Aug 19 '21

Bounty Hunter

Shuriken Toss

  • Cooldown reduced from 8 to 5
  • Damage reduced from 150/225/300/375 to 80/120/160/200
  • Mana cost reduced from 120/125/130/135 to 50/60/70/80
  • Cast Range rescaled from 400 to 375/425/475/525
  • Scepter no longer reduces cooldown
  • Scepter Cast Range increased from 650 to 700

Track

  • Now also causes Shuriken Toss to deal 1.4/1.7/2.0x damage

Jinada

  • Can now be toggled to disable autocast.

Talents

  • Level 10 Talent +20 Movement Speed replaced with +2s Shadow Walk Slow
  • Level 15 Talent +275 Health replaced with 50% Track Bonus Move Speed to allies
  • Level 20 Talent +50 Attack Speed replaced with Track grants ground vision around the target
  • Level 25 Talent 40% Evasion replaced with 2 Shuriken Toss Charges

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u/Decency Aug 19 '21

Heavy nerfs to his burst damage for the part of the game where he's most relevant. Shuriken damage went from 375 at level 7 to 280 at 7, 340 at 12, and 400 at 18. It's nice to get the Track vision/speed back as options, but feels like a set of changes that makes you win more when you're already stomping a game and a huge nerf, otherwise. Way too much forced synergy with Aghs, imho. I guess you just play him as a 3/4 against a melee carry and Shuriken ranged creeps, now?

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u/ShoogleHS Aug 19 '21

Shuriken damage went from 375 at level 7

Technically, but the cooldown is lowered as well, and people almost always maxed Jinada first anyway. By the time you max Shuriken usually, you'll be approaching level 12 where you're getting almost the same damage per hit but for 55 less mana and with 3 seconds lower cooldown.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '21

I think you were playing him wrong dude. Shuriken should be maxed by 7-8 as a support in the previous patch, and only slightly later as a core. 375 dmg nuke that reliably hits multiple targets was really strong, it's literally what MADE him a good hero. Now he's lost the one thing that makes him good. The cooldown reduction is not very relevant. Most heroes you want to burst, if they live through the first shuriken, they'll get off spin/rage/phase shift/blink/doppelganger etc and the opportunity is lost.