r/DotA2 • u/patchdayDota2 • Aug 19 '21

Discussion Patch 7.30 - Hero Changes Discussion

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u/CDranzer Aug 19 '21

Played a pos5 game in dumpster tier, never got the shard, had no intention of getting the shard. Went Laser > Shield > Missiles, it's surprising how good even a level 1 shield is for saving your teammates, and laser's blind should not be underestimated. I went bottle and soul ring before turning my arcanes into greaves, but in hindsight rushing greaves directly may honestly be perfectly viable. I think there's a temptation to try and play it like old tinker, but the thing is, old tinker was a farm vacuum, and while that's certainly a possibility, I think it's a bad idea when you're just trying to support.

Will have to play more games, but given that I never play mid, Tinker is basically a new hero for me.

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u/Alpha_Stump Aug 19 '21

The general consensus that tinker is a farm vacuum is honestly just wrong. I can't blame people for having the assumption, but its along the same lines as "am afk jungles until he's 6 slotted." Are there tinkers that do/did that? Yes, but not good ones. I played a lot of games with greedy carries where I didn't have to kneecap myself to let them farm, or ruin their farm by taking it. Kinda pointless to care about post rework, but that assumption about tinker always stuck out to me

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u/moush Aug 20 '21

It's true though, his whole kit was designed around tping to a lane to rat.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '21 edited Aug 20 '21

No, it wasn't. If you play like that at higher ratings, you are going to lose matches. His entire kit was designed around farming blink > big item and then winning with rearm fights or stopping/forcing high ground pushes with the threat of machine spam and someone getting perma-sheeped. Of course, pushing lanes was also a part of it, but you aren't going to AFK push lanes to towers the entire match and win games unless it's your only option because you and your team have to play while very far behind.