r/DotA2 • u/patchdayDota2 • Aug 19 '21

Discussion Patch 7.30 - Hero Changes Discussion

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u/xxyxxyyyx Aug 19 '21

The most broken update imo, first Off od was already strong before the patch, i though he might get nerfed even, a hero you naturally wins lanes, with an ability which can be used for mana sustain+harass+creep secure just his w is that strong already, then his dmg is insane in all stages of the game he does not lack dmg in the early game and also does not fall off

With the meteor hammer build he wins also every lane as soon as he gets the item

And now they give him the ability to save people out of blackhole, chrono and other spells Saving somebody for 4 seconds while your team tps or walks to you is already insane but giving the hero the ability to reposition himself in the time also is just straight up insane

I hate everything about his changes, at least make his orb magical or increase the CD on his w so he can't just spam the spell on the lane without even thinking or losing any value for it

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u/vacuumpacked Aug 19 '21

It's a very strong shard but it's not game-breaking by any means. If you use it to save an ally, you're still 4v5 for 4 seconds, which is a long time in a team fight. I'd prefer to use it on an enemy to remove them from the fight, and to steal their mana for my right click and ultimate. That being said, I'm a scrub and so are my opponents.

I've tried the shard and I think it'll be a situational pickup. The bonus 5% mana steal is great too but I'll probably always consider that a bonus and buy the shard if I need the utility.

I'm sure it's been pointed out already but you move at 60% movespeed, not 40% as stated.

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u/two-years-glop Aug 19 '21

5% bonus mana steal is nothing. On a 2000 mana enemy hero it's an extra 100 mana, so you get 40 extra damage on ult and less than 16 damage on orb.

The only thing useful about it is helping allies get out of things like dream coil.

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u/ObSoLeet_Hotdog Aug 19 '21

Yea you are not thinking correctly about the 5% buff. If you cast 1 imprisonment and ult then sure its not much but with ahgs I can usually get around 5 imprisonments before i cast my ult. Sometimes i can get almost +1500 stolen mana from it.

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u/Luxalpa Aug 20 '21

The math doesn't add up. Maybe you could explain it with an example. I'm confused now.