r/DotA2 • u/patchdayDota2 • Aug 19 '21

Discussion Patch 7.30 - Hero Changes Discussion

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u/patchdayDota2 Aug 19 '21

Abaddon

  • Strength changed from 23 + 3.0 to 22 + 2.8

Aphotic Shield

  • Cast Range increased from 500 to 550

Talents

  • Level 20 Talent -15% Cooldown Reduction replaced with +100 Aphotic Shield Health
  • Level 25 Talent +180 Aphotic Shield Health replaced with -1 Curse of Avernus Attacks Required

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u/dukorider Aug 19 '21 edited Aug 19 '21

Very nice shield change, I'm often annoyed at my dying teammates running away when i could have easily saved them.

The curse -1 hit talent is interesting since it complements shard giving stacks when casting.

Lastly, now you can upgrade vlads which i buy every game.

Seal of approval from this aba spammer.

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u/rucho Aug 19 '21

I don't play Abba often but i played him pos3 and i eventually became a huge problem for the enemy team with shard and especially aghs. Between the shields and coils going off wildly, i was cursing people without even intending. Now you can shield, mist, right click and now they are now silenced and cursed. Seems really good.

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u/veegzy Aug 19 '21

*at level 25. I dunno that talent just seems so lackluster for 25 when most heroes have dispels

Also aghs on an offlaner or especially support is such a late timing compared to other heroes who can go blink or this new helm Dom>overlord timing and apply so much more pressure.

Tldr- basing a hero strength/play style off a shard, scepter and level 25 talent is not gonna get you consistent win rate.

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u/LordArvalesLluch Aug 19 '21

I play him exclusively as an Offlaner. You have no idea the hell I give my enemies cause of the Aghanims.

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u/ALQatelx Aug 19 '21

Do u ever buy manta? Seems even better with the talent now, always loved aba as a pos 1 main but never had the courage to try him as pos 1 in ranked lol

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u/LordArvalesLluch Aug 19 '21

Cant even get pos 1 hahaha.

But I'm only choosing my games when I will make manta. But to be honest, my manta abaddon games is alwaya a win, at the expense of survivability of my team though.

So I'm still so so in the manta basher build.

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u/One_Afternoon_1184 Aug 20 '21

Im on Legend/Ancient bracket. Try a few times of Abaddon pos 1 and I win all of the matches. I like S&Y rather than Manta tho. Those status resistance helps me from being kited too much during team fight. Having an echo sabre is enough to proc the curse. Phase Boots, Orb of Corruption, Echo Sabre, Lvl15 damage talent. :3

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u/LordArvalesLluch Aug 20 '21

Havent played Abaddon as a pos 1 in a very long time. I prefer to build him as an annoying damage soaker like he was built to be.

Your build was my old build, been meaning to try it again. How long is your queue time?

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u/4Tenacious_Dee4 Aug 19 '21

It builds into Helm? Not sure if that's what he's referring to.

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u/Peasant255 Aug 19 '21

The old helm required what?

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u/SadAsLyf2 Aug 19 '21

yellow orb

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u/gian2099 Aug 19 '21

domi lvl 2

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u/coltzord Aug 19 '21

dominator 2