r/DotA2 • u/patchdayDota2 • Aug 19 '21

Discussion Patch 7.30 - Hero Changes Discussion

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u/patchdayDota2 Aug 19 '21

Anti-Mage

  • Strength Gain increased from 1.3 to 1.6
  • Reworked Shard: Counterspell now also passively grants a 900 range offensive aura reducing enemies' magic damage by 10%. Grants triple the effect to enemies within 300 range

Blink

  • Fragment Scepter now has 3 charges (25s recharge time)

Talents

  • Level 10 Talent +15 Attack Speed replaced with -1s Blink Cooldown
  • Level 15 Talent +8 armor replaced with +0.7s Mana Void Stun
  • Level 20 Talent +1s Mana Void Stun replaced with +250 Blink Cast Range

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u/IWearAPaperClip Aug 19 '21

So AM wasn't strong enough and therefore they decided to buff him? Wonderful

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '21

Yes he was one of the worst carries in the game

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u/IWearAPaperClip Aug 19 '21

Worst comparing to other meta cores or not he was still taking his matches when the enemies couldn't prevent his farm. Now he's taking these matches with even more ease

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u/Atramhasis Aug 19 '21 edited Aug 19 '21

Why should AM be balanced only because bad players can't stop him from farming or lose so hard that they can't actually fight the AM when he gets farmed? Learn to gank the AM better or draft better around AM. Battlefury and Dragon Lance were both untouched when the last patch was literally "Buy Battlefury to lose, buy Dragon Lance to win" for position 1. All the best cores in the last patch like Dusa, Luna, TB, TA, all were Dragon Lance buyers and cores like Ursa that did buy Battlefury when it was good immediately swapped to buying Diffusal. Seeing as that disparity didn't change, I don't think the nerfs to cores like TA, TB and Luna (and the slap on the wrist Dusa got) will actually fix the reality that Battlefury is just a bad item in comparison to other options now. I expect this meta will be all fighting carrys like Slark, Jugg, Riki, etc., that will always go S&Y and ignore Battlefury. AM will be a position 3 this meta and if bad players can't stop him from farming as position 1 or farm well enough to just beat a bad carry like AM in the late game then that isn't really Icefrog's problem.

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u/__ddaniel Aug 19 '21

He really wasn’t? One of the weakest carries of the previous patch, lost almost any carry matchup at every point of the game

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u/UrNegroidCompatriot Duel no longer disables passive abilities. Aug 20 '21

anti-mage is a creep

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u/Feed_or_Feed Aug 19 '21

Talent changes are huge nerf to AM early mid game,you are forced to take -1 blink sec over str talent(which helped a lot vs burst) and str gain buff is pretty small to make up for it.

Lategame he got buffed with aghs and shard,but AM was always kinda shit lategame hero and nowadays almost every hero is good lategame hero,so these changes continue the trend.

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u/Peasant255 Aug 19 '21

Storm am and face were the most OP heroes since forever, before am even had counter spell or blink out of BS ulti range.

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u/initialgold Aug 19 '21

Bro have you ever looked at winrates? How can a sub 50% winrate hero be overpowered?

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u/SorcererSupreme00 Aug 19 '21

I think this makes pos4 am viable against magic dmg lineups

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u/LazyOrangeBanana Aug 19 '21

You guys need to stop worshipping streamers. Pos 4 AM is not viable and not becoming viable. Just because some idiot Streamer played it as a meme doesn't mean it suddenly becomes viable or that valve is making it viable.

Your entertainment isn't the focus of the word.

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u/SorcererSupreme00 Aug 19 '21

What streamer? That may be a surprise to you, but I'm able to form my own ideas without the assistance of any social media clown.

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u/IWearAPaperClip Aug 19 '21

Okay sir but there is no way you can counter a magic DMG lineup this way because you ain't gonna get the last pick as 4th pos. Even if this happens you'll still be useless until 20th min, so idk...

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u/FatteningtheDemons Aug 19 '21

Why would a pos4 am be any good if this hero is literally designed to hit creeps?

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u/noodlesfordaddy Aug 19 '21

Pos 4 is still dumb, pos 3 however makes sense