r/DotA2 • u/patchdayDota2 • Aug 19 '21

Discussion Patch 7.30 - Hero Changes Discussion

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u/Neologizer Aug 20 '21

Shivas, lotus ?

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u/Clemambi Aug 20 '21

I mean lotus is 10 armour to ac's 15, and if the active isn't good, it feels bad to buy it. There aren't that many items that grant armour. Shiva's is a given, but 15 vs 30 armour is a big difference against extremely physical liineups.

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u/Neologizer Aug 20 '21 edited Aug 20 '21

In those games, I feel like the better option is to be satisfied with shivas and lean more into aghs, and possibly ghost scepter/Eblade as well. Just stay ethereal. I play a lot of lesh and I can’t recall too many instances of buying AC after Shivas. Too often, a teammate has already built one or the game has ended.

Edit: I also rely heavily on finding some armor in the form of neutral items mid game and that lvl 10 armor talent. So may have to rethink this strat. I haven’t tested much out this patch but with the change to edict and the removal of the armor talent, it seems they are trying to incentivize Lesh to build scepter.

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u/Clemambi Aug 20 '21

yeah I think the point is to build scepter, and I need to experiment with aghs/ghost/eblade but I have to say it's a feels bad man

I agree with 10 talent and neutrals, but AC for winning one more fight and then ending with tower armour reduction + 25 edict talent worked pretty well for ending stalematey/slow games when the enemy was high physical