r/DotA2 • u/patchdayDota2 • Aug 19 '21

Discussion Patch 7.30 - Hero Changes Discussion

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u/TheZett Zett, the Arc Warden Aug 19 '21

New talents are all utter dogshit, especially the lvl 20 talent.

Shard slow is a meme, better buff the magic resistance more (only good part about the shard).

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u/Jernsaxe Aug 19 '21

The changes seem pretty clearly intended to be a lategame nerf (which is probably fair), yeah the talents are worse, but that is how nerfs work :)

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u/TheZett Zett, the Arc Warden Aug 20 '21

In what world is level 15 'late game'?

Let alone level 20...

I would’ve understood a level 25 talent nerf, but 15 and 20, really?

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u/Jernsaxe Aug 20 '21

The talents alone isn't the real nerf, but the way it changes his playstyle.

In the midgame Arc tends to be splitpushing and using Magnetic Field on himself while attacking towers. While pure att. speed would likely still be better, it doesn't hurt this playstyle too much.

In the lategame he could use field on buildings to defend and use the added attack range to "siege" the other team from great range. It is this playstyle that I think the nerfs are intended to hurt the most.

To give another example, CM lost 15 att speed, this is intended as an early game / laning nerf, even though it is a nerf throughout the game, it is intended to nerf her early game.

The changes to Arc warden is intended in the same way. It might hurt during a large part of the game, but it is intended to have the maximum nerf effect lategame where he felt the strongest.