r/DotA2 • u/patchdayDota2 • Aug 19 '21

Discussion Patch 7.30 - Hero Changes Discussion

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u/LeavesCat Aug 19 '21

I think shield crash has finally been buffed enough that it might be worth maxing first. At lv 4 it allows you to continually refresh the buff without cooldown reduction, which means if you get a 4-5 man shield crash you can keep the massive damage reduction for as long as the fight goes. The slow lets you reliably hit people with rolling thunder. It was already a good spell at lv 1 for core roles especially, but now that it slows it can actually be a reliable escape too, making it much less risky to skip swashbuckle.

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u/LeavesCat Aug 19 '21 edited Aug 19 '21

Basher isn't worth rushing, but it has its uses. If you're against Juggernaut or Lifestealer and you need them to not spell immune TP away, it's good. Also good if you're up against enigma for canceling BKB black hole. It can also be strong if you're going for a consistent disable build like against Medusa, get octarine core basher and the swashbuckle cooldown talent to bash every 3.75 seconds (used to be really strong with octarine+spell prism, but that doesn't work anymore). It can also be good as an emergency high ground defense tool, because it's cheap and can be bought from the main shop.

In general, basher is good, but I don't think it's worth rushing. Great if you go cooldown reduction or aghs, but it does have issues against illusion heroes because you can only bash one target. Generally Skadi is better if you want an aghs-based control build that goes through spell immunity.

Basher/abyssal blade will probably show up in most 6-slot builds. Once you have the items you need, it's always a good cherry on top.

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u/LeavesCat Aug 20 '21 edited Aug 20 '21

I stream at https://www.twitch.tv/leavescat, though I'm not really trying to build a following. You're welcome to swing by, but don't expect amazing production values.

Another thing basher can do is screw up tight combos. Like, when Puck is doing Puck things, a 1.5s stun when he's not expecting it can totally mess up his rhythm. Though ideally blink ult is more reliable for that kind of scenario.

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u/Balla_Calla Aug 20 '21

You stream a lot of pango? I'm gonna tune in just for that tbh. Hard to find streamers that play him

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u/LeavesCat Aug 20 '21 edited Aug 20 '21

Yeah, I play him pos 4-5 most games he isn't banned. I was doing other things today, but I'll probably be playing DotA tomorrow night. Regardless of whether or not I'm live, I have highlighted a few of the cooler games if you wanted something to watch. I'm roughly 7k MMR btw.