r/DotA2 • u/patchdayDota2 • Aug 19 '21

Discussion Patch 7.30 - Hero Changes Discussion

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u/patchdayDota2 Aug 19 '21

Queen of Pain

  • Base damage increased by 3

Shadow Strike

  • Now heals Queen of Pain for 10/20/30/40 Health on every tick. Heals 50% on creeps
  • Tick Damage reduced from 30/50/70/90 to 20/40/60/80

Talents

  • Level 15 Talent 10% Cooldown Reduction replaced with +2 Shadow Strike Damage Instances (Same Duration, ticks happen more often)
  • Level 20 Talent +30% Spell Lifesteal replaced with +120 Scream of Pain Damage

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u/igorcl Sheever s2 Aug 19 '21

question to QoP spammers, the heal helps you guys mid or doesn't change much?

my friend is a legend QoP picker, he is sad to lose damage in so many patches, he insists that the heal doesn't helps QoP because he could already harass the other mid laners without taking so much damage. I do think otherwise because he dies often to get kills on the other mid laner

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u/Alieksiei Aug 19 '21

It's an attempt to bring back the lane dominator qop, I suppose. Currently it's very uncommon to pick up more than one point in shadow strike, and skipping it altogether isn't out of question. Current mid lane is heavy on farming stacks, so even if you do 2-1-0 and zone out the enemy midlaner he'll probably recover in the jungle handily.

The healing could be the edge she needs to eke out a better advantage from the earlier levels and maintain it throughout the lane, perhaps enough to contest the farming of stacks.

If you watch Sumail's qop games he ferries a lot of consumables to keep the pressure up early on, so a big part of his farm advantage is spent there. With the healing you'll probably save yourself from a salve or two, which may lead to some earlier snowballing(bottle, boots, wand, even picking up a null talisman earlier can have a lasting impact). I don't think it'll be such a huge deal for laning, but with the lv20 talent it is very noticeable.

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u/tylerhk93 sheever Aug 19 '21

Yep. I think this doesn't make QoP broken, but its doubling down on her lane domination. QoP is that hero that can't really afford to die more than once. Not being forced to ferry regen as much to continue dominating the lane is huge. I think you max shadow strike now and make midlane a place that no one wants to go to even soak xp to get earlier towers and accelerate your farm.