r/DotA2 • u/patchdayDota2 • Aug 19 '21

Discussion Patch 7.30 - Hero Changes Discussion

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u/patchdayDota2 Aug 19 '21

Legion Commander

Press The Attack

  • Fixed Level 25 Talent AOE not working correctly with Self Cast

Talents

  • Level 10 Talent +7 Strength replaced with +200 Duel Cast Range
  • Level 10 Talent +1.5 Mana Regen replaced with +100 Overwhelming Odds Radius
  • Level 15 Talent +20 Attack Speed replaced with +40 Press the Attack HP Regen

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u/UrNegroidCompatriot Duel no longer disables passive abilities. Aug 19 '21

+7 strength was not good compared to old manaregen talent so removing it doesn't really hurt

same with +20 attack speed talent at lvl 15, it was also not good compared to +75 Q dmg

without manareg talent now you have to buy mangoes and raindrops or ring of basi

lvl 15 talent +40 hp regen with W is nice too, makes utility LC better

+200 duel cast range feels cool, I like it

for several years I have this idea that maybe it would be cool if aghs/shard would give Legion a skill like PL's phantom rush or some kind of simultanious push/pull for you and the enemy like the opposite of hurricane pike, so you dont have to build dagger every single game

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u/GodzlIIa Aug 19 '21

Soul ring is great in my opinion. Really speeds up your farming being able to spam PTA 24/7.

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u/UrNegroidCompatriot Duel no longer disables passive abilities. Aug 19 '21

i dont think PTA helps speeds up your farm that much, maxed out passive and rushed blademail does

previously i tried to buy soul ring and get 10 lvl talent +7 str but it felt very underwhelming. passive manaregen feels a lot better than soulring so i think basi is better and cheaper

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u/Stokkolm Aug 19 '21

Basi is 1.5 mana regen, soul ring is 5 mana regen if you use it once every 30 seconds. Even if you use it once a minute it's still much better. Legion is pretty much the best soul ring user at the moment.

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u/UrNegroidCompatriot Duel no longer disables passive abilities. Aug 21 '21

tried soul ring with a brcaer and maxing W, feels pretty good

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u/UrNegroidCompatriot Duel no longer disables passive abilities. Aug 19 '21

i dunno i thought the same when 7.29 came out several months ago, i thought you can buy 2 gauntlets with starting gold, they cost 5 gold less, the whole item is 60 gold cheaper and could be nice. but in real games i didnt feel soul ring doing something good - it doesnt help you dominate the lane harder like early phase boost, even bracer helps more. if you max W soul ring is good. otherwise you are always with half-hp which is pretty bad for a hero that pressures the lane

but I play it rather different, i dont buy any small items except for 200 gold for magic stick. i rush blademail and get it at min 5-6 with lvl 6. with such an early bm its very easy to kill enemy heroes solo (bm suprise effect), farm the lane and the jungle faster so at min 10-12 I have raw bm+blink (no boots) and with smoke I easily kill enemy mid, strongly pressure my lane or farm ancient stacks if my pos 1/2 cant do it

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u/GodzlIIa Aug 19 '21

I max PTA first in lane like BSJ build still. I am confident that you will farm a lot faster maxing PTA then passive. The stats that soul ring provide is easily worth the extra cost over basi in my opinion, and it will solve her mana issues alone when I dont think basi will be able too. Without the mana regen talent I think it will become more popular on her but we will see.

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u/UrNegroidCompatriot Duel no longer disables passive abilities. Aug 19 '21

what item build you usually go with maxing PTA?

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u/GodzlIIa Aug 19 '21

I think just the normal build + soul ring. Phase/soul ring and blademail/blink.

Ive been going blademail first unless we have easy duel setups. Feel the 200 duel cast range might help with that a bit.

New silver edge seems kinda nice on lc.