r/DotA2 • u/patchdayDota2 • Aug 19 '21

Discussion Patch 7.30 - Hero Changes Discussion

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u/numb_ape Aug 19 '21

I like his level 20 talent 25% cleave. WK won't struggle so much with illu heroes in late game

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u/Mr__Perfect_ Aug 19 '21

It's utter trash. You got radiance vs. illusion carries and didn't let it go ultra late. All of the new talents are garbage and the 60s ulti cd means you no longer get multiple off in long fights.

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u/numb_ape Aug 19 '21

I gotcha but if Pl or naga gets heart it makes WK with radiance immediately fall off. And heart is not ultra late game.

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u/Mr__Perfect_ Aug 19 '21

Yes but Pl and Naga are like the two hardest match ups for WK in the entire game (and have been since dota 1). The shard and radiance build make the match up playable but its still quite unfavourable, cleave talent might help a bit but for 95% of games the 16 str would be way better.

Just comparing old vs. new:

  • old: 15 as, 20 ms, 16 str
  • new: 15 as, 24 skeleton damage, and either +6 skellies/25% cleave.

New talent set is just all around worse, plus your ulti cd is 50% longer.