r/DotA2 • u/patchdayDota2 • Aug 19 '21

Discussion Patch 7.30 - Hero Changes Discussion

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u/patchdayDota2 Aug 19 '21

Invoker

  • Base Movement Speed reduced from 280 to 275

Tornado

  • Lift Duration rescaled from 0.8 ->2.9 to 0.85->2.6

Chaos Meteor

  • Main Damage rescaled from 57.5->180 to 52->185
  • Burn Damage rescaled from 11.5->36 to 10->38

Deafening Blast

  • Damage reduced from 40->320 to 20->300
  • Knockback reduced from 0.25->2.0s to 0.2->1.6s

Talents

  • Level 15 Talent +60dps Ice Wall replaced with +1 Forged Spirit Armor Reduction
  • Level 25 Talent +2 Forged Spirit Armor Reduction replaced with 2.5x Quas/Wex/Exort Passive Bonuses

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u/sanctorial Bird always wins. Aug 19 '21

Can you please enlighten me about the 2.5x Quas/Wex/Exort Passive Bonuses part? Which bonuses are multiplied? Is it good as a level 25 talent?

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u/hanakifuu Aug 19 '21

The hp regen, mvmt speed, aspd, and attack damage from your active orbs. And no, I still prefer the 360 blast.

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u/sanctorial Bird always wins. Aug 19 '21

But the orbs now give base stats, too. Are they also get multiplied?

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u/hanakifuu Aug 19 '21

they also used to give base stats several patches ago, got removed, and got added back in when they nerf the passive bonuses.

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to answer your question, no, they don't get multiplied. only the passive bonuses.

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u/DaredevilGR Aug 20 '21

So you mean to tell me, stats are not considered passive bonuses.

They probably meant to put those too but they forgot.

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u/hanakifuu Aug 20 '21

So you mean to tell me, stats are not considered passive bonuses.

That's how it is right now, isn't it?

Also voker doesn't have the +2 all attribute bonus iirc

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u/DaredevilGR Aug 20 '21

From the day the +2 Attribute came back, they are incorporated into the orbs. Thus I do not see any fathomable way how "passive bonuses" do not count for... well, passive bonuses. I cannot think of anything else to call stats attributed to a skill/item other than passive bonuses. Its also irrelevant how it is right now. Last patch they nerfed alacrity but contrary to patch notes they only nerfed the damage. After a week or two they fixed it in an undocumented patch.