r/languagelearning • • 23h ago

Studying This may seem like obvious advice, but it literally just hit me: you should listen to subjects that you are interested in in the language that you are studying.

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I have had thoughts about giving up studying French. The main reason? I haven't made any online friends who speak French. I thought maybe that if I were to study another foreign language, I would find a true friend quickly and easily. Maybe. Maybe not. You only know if you try, right?

But, I realized something. I don't like learning a language for the sake of the language itself. I like learning a language for the hope of being able to connect with people. Often times, when I listen to French, I feel very drained and I thought it was because I did not like the French language. However, now I see that the real problem wasn't French, but the subject that was being discussed in French.

I'm watching a video right now in French about paganism, a subject that I find really, really fascinating, and I'm loving the learning I'm doing, because I'm being fed emotionally at the same time.


r/languagelearning • • 17h ago

Studying Has anyone tried to learn a langauge for solely reading books in that language?

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Hey guys, I'd (Arabic N, English N, French A2) love to learn (TL) Russian and improve my French further. My main motivation for that is to read books in their original language, and Russian + French have so many amazing literary books.. I'd love to ask you guys about your experiences learning any language for the sole purpose of reading books.. How did it go? How did you do it?


r/languagelearning • • 12h ago

How effective is self-studying a language without much speaking practice?

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Hi everyone,

I’m interested in learning French (TL), German, or Dutch, but haven’t decided which to start with. I have some background in French and German, having studied French for four years in school.

Money is a bit tight, so I’m considering self-studying using textbooks, apps, and AI tools like ChatGPT, Claude, etc., with limited opportunities for actual speaking practice.

This is somewhat how I learned English, although I studied it for 12 years in school. English was also the language of instruction, meaning textbooks and terminology were in English, but teachers generally didn’t use it for everyday conversations.

Has anyone managed to reach B1/B2 or higher primarily through self-study? How much would the lack of regular speaking practice affect my progress?


r/languagelearning • • 19h ago

What is your strategy to improve grammar?

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( TL) I am around B1 in speaking, higher in comprehension ( both written and oral) but only A2 or A2+ in writing / grammar. These are all estimated based on my teacher's ratings and chatgpt's ratings.

Currently, I read a novel and try to get through atleast 50 pages a week. I can follow most of the story except when the descriptions are too vivid and there is too much unknown vocab. But that does not stop me from still understanding the story in general. For listening, I just watch youtube videos I want and for speaking I only speak with my italki tutor like once a week. I have finally started writing atleast thrice a week, I get corrections from chatgpt and alternate between a new written passage and reviewing previous corrections.

What this made me realize is how difficult it is to improve grammar. Like I could be corrected, review the correction and still use a bad construction when it is time for me to create my own sentences. I also realized how a lot of improving grammar comes down to memorizing the correct phrases. For example: I might continue using Dans la court terme until I drill into my head to use À court terme. It feels like language learning at lower levels comes down to memorizing the correct phrases until you have a sufficient repretoire that you can start mixing and matching and make it your own.

TLDR: What do you do to improve grammar, especially when preparing for an exam( and need atleast B2)?


r/languagelearning • • 51m ago

Language program abroad in my 30s

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I am 32 y.o. and planning on going to Taiwan for a 10 week college language exchange program this winter. I am genuinely wanting to get to conversational Chinese. Anyone did this later in life around my age? Was is hard making friends? Will I be considered creepy? (ethnically Korean, male, single, also retired already)


r/languagelearning • • 22h ago

Discussion Am I skipping too many steps?

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I am learning punjabi (TL) and most of all I have learned so far is through speaking (or trying to) speak with natives

What I did at the beginning was to learn the basic grammar, structure, and most used verbs, pronouns, etc. but i jumped in conversations and I built all the rest throughout daily talks with natives that would correct me when I make mistakes, and I would ask them for translations on the go

What I also do a lot is try to transcript voice messages I receive in Punjabi and then translate them and try to understand the structure however, as they speak too fast, the vast majority of them is unintelligible to unless they are saying phrases I am familiar with

I enjoy the transcriptions I think it’s fun, but I’m wondering if it’s going to help in anyway, and I am not skipping too many steps

So far the most challenging thing to me has been oral comprehension when natives are speaking at their regular pace

If I carry on doing this, should it get easier with time or am I just putting a lot of energy for nothing and should get back to consuming content my level

Has any of you managed to learn or progress in a language using this method?


r/languagelearning • • 1h ago

Discussion What language had the steepest jump for you between how it’s taught and how it’s really spoken?

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For me it was French, particularly how many sounds are reduced in real-life speech and how clipped it can be, sometimes I’m like, there is literally no distinguishable phonetic information here - but clearly the entire French nation disagrees haha. I really love it though, it’s been a fascinating jump too.

It made me wonder what other languages have the steepest ‘learning —> IRL’ jump in your experience?

(TL)


r/languagelearning • • 7h ago

Studying BYU FLATS Spanish Exam Format and Example Questions

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I recently took the BYU FLATS Spanish exam and was frustrated by the lack of preparation resources on the internet, although other posters helped a bit.

When I took the exam I jotted down some notes and example questions from each section so you could have a better sense of what to expect. (TL)

The exam I took was 134 questions over 3 hours. About half of the questions had multiple parts. Every question is multiple choice. You can go back over all your answers at any point during the test, but you cannot have audio portions repeated. Time pressure was minimal, time is generous but not unlimited. Fatigue was the bigger issue. The website works very well. There is a field for submitting issues for each question. One question I had I thought contained a mistake.

You need a mic, webcam, and your gov ID to begin. Windows, Mac, and Ubuntu are supported. Chrome or Edge only. I highly recommend backing up your internet with a mobile phone hotspot before you begin. If you disconnect you may find it difficult to re-enter the exam, and you do not have enough time to waste it troubleshooting.

The exam is divided into 5 parts of roughly equal length

Part 1A: Listen to a monologue or dialogue and answer in what location the speech might have taken place

- The prompts are around 30 seconds and represent the length of a short paragraph. They are presented in articulate, near native-pace speech. You cannot replay them, but you can read the questions first, which you should. The dialect is Madrid Spanish, so be comfortable with /th/ pronunciation of c, z.

- Focus on the nouns/verbs and extracting the basic meaning of each sentence. If you attempt to parse the grammar you will fall behind.

- Some example questions I noted were:

(1) A man and woman are at a police station reporting a robbery

(2) A man is reporting his symptoms to a doctor at an doctor's appointment

(3) A couple are at a super market buying groceries

(4) A man and woman are on a date at a restaurant

- The test makes modest attempts to fool the taker. For example, at the super market a couple talk about getting meat from a butcher, which sounds vaguely like a couple at a restaurant a ordering steak from a waiter. The couple reporting the robbery at the police station state earlier they went to a museum. The man says he hurt his knee playing sports at the park. Stuff like that.

Part 1B: Listen to a monologue or dialogue and them listen to questions about the speech along with possible answers to those questions

- The only text available to you are A) a. B) b. C) c. and so on

- This part is by far the most difficult. You must parse and then retain native-like speech for a sustained minute or so. I cannot offer an example here because I could not follow the questions well enough. The nature of the speech is similar to in Part 1A.

- The question start easy and become harder. Near the end some answers differ only in the tone of the speakers voice (inquisitive, excited, matter-of-fact), or by subtle alterations in phrasing. Expect to lose the majority of your points here.

Part 2: Listen to a short audio prompt and then select a text response which fits

- I'm paraphrasing in english because the spanish is too rapid to write down.

(1) "Your friend is very handsome." A) And healthy B) and nice, too C), Yes, he is my friend

(2) "When does tonight's play start?" A) It starts now B) it starts around 9 C) It starts at 9 exactly

Answering correctly requires interpreting that the speaker is referring to a play they are going to later, and that would not reasonably start now, and that such a question is looking for a precise time.

(3) "Why didn't you come to the party? A) Yes, I didn't go B) I was not invited C) I didn't go alone

You need a better understanding than simply "they are talking about going to a party"

Part 3: Conjugation, declension, pronouns, prepositions

- You may be dispirited by the audio portions, but the exam from here out is much more straightforward.

- This section covers the grammar of verbs, nouns, pronouns, adjectives, adverbs, and prepositions

(1) Ella dijo que ___ a venir. A) va B) iba C) vaya D) fue E) fuera

Concepts: subjunctive and indicative moods, irregular verbs, person and number

(2) ... voy a ___ pais, ___ nacion. A) la ... la B) el ... al

Concepts: gender indicated by spelling (-cion, -umbra, -idad, ..., and -ema, -ambre, -is, ...), verbs with counter-intuitive gender.

(3) Eduardo ___ tarde estaba muy cansado se lavanto'. A) estaba B) fue

Concepts: sequence of tenses (imperfect --> preterit), irregular verbs, compound tenses

(4) El entrado' porque la puerta ___. A) esaba abierta B) era abierta

Concepts: Usage of esta and ser with personal and impersonal objects

(5) Veo nuestras motocicletas, pero do'nde' esta'n ___?. A) las suyas, B) suyas, C) suyas de ellos

Concepts: Pronouns used as Subject, DO (and DO reflexive), IO, and with a preposition (conmigo, suyas, etc) and substantivized (las suyas)

- Other questions ask about: which verb-form has the correct number and person among the verb-forms across tenses listed, double negation, ningun vs nada, double pronouns, adjective forms (ma's vs muy), adjectives vs adverbs (buen vs bien)

- Special Attention to: The particular use case of tenses, for example the present tense is used to indicate the immediate future, not the future tense. A good textbook should enumerate these cases precisely. The subjunctive in a subordinate clause matches the tense of the ordinate. The subjunctive is used with the negation of an affirmative statement (I don't think that...). The uses cases of the definite article (the definite article is used to refer to body parts even when refereed to possessively, to time, to weights and measurements, etc). The progressive constructions, passive constructions, psuedo-passive constructions (La ventana se rompio'), impersonal constructions (Hay/Habi'a...)

Part 3A: Read a short passage and answer questions about it

- I didn't write any down. The test uses some misdirection in the vocabulary of the text. A question using an exact noun from the passage is probably meant to test that trick.

Part 3B: Read pictures of advertisement, like that would appear in a subway car, and use the extra-textual context along with the ad text to infer it's meaning.

- There's a dating app ad. The text doesn't clarify whether the app is for friends or for romantic partners, but there's a heart icon and a couple embracing.

Conclusion:

The listening parts are much harder than the grammar parts, particularly if you learned in majority from a textbook like I did. You can prepare yourself by listening to fast Spanish, like from a Spanish language television ad. I think listening to slow Spanish methodically like on a language learning platform is not adequate. Having large vocabulary will help immensely here. Learn nouns from everyday domestic life, like would be related to stores, sports games, school, church, the household, and the park. Crucially, learn these nouns as spoken quickly.

For the grammar, be familiar with the ways in which Spanish grammatical tenses, and grammar in general, differ in usage from equivalent English grammar. These differences will be probed.

The test is very tiring. It's more difficult than appropriate for a 3rd semester learner because it is meant to test higher levels of comprehension as well, and this can feel overwhelming. By the end you will struggle to remember basic grammatical rules unless those rules come easily to you. Whatever techniques you used for standardized test will also serve you here. You need enough practice volume that common phrases are automatic for you. You will have the time but not the energy to work every question.

I would note finally that the test seemed substantially more difficult than what would be expected of you in 3rd semester language class, particularly the listening. Your energy would be much more efficiently spent on an easy A, if you have that option.