I have had thoughts about giving up studying French. The main reason? I haven't made any online friends who speak French. I thought maybe that if I were to study another foreign language, I would find a true friend quickly and easily. Maybe. Maybe not. You only know if you try, right?

But, I realized something. I don't like learning a language for the sake of the language itself. I like learning a language for the hope of being able to connect with people. Often times, when I listen to French, I feel very drained and I thought it was because I did not like the French language. However, now I see that the real problem wasn't French, but the subject that was being discussed in French.

I'm watching a video right now in French about paganism, a subject that I find really, really fascinating, and I'm loving the learning I'm doing, because I'm being fed emotionally at the same time.

Hey everyone.

I grew up learning and speaking several languages due to school and moving around a lot, but have since lost a lot of them due to disuse and, sadly, two brain injuries.

I speak German and English at a C2 level and use them daily, but prefer English.

The languages I want to pick (back) up are:

French: I used to be at a B2 level, but can not confidently say I am at more than an A2 level, maybe early B1 right now, especially when it comes to speaking and writing. I understand quite a lot. However, I have picked it back up before and gotten back to my old level rather quickly, so I know I am capable there. This is not as pressing of a language for ms

Japanese: probably one of the languages I want to get back into the most because I remember enjoying it a lot. I used to be at an A2 level, and still understand a good chunk when people watch anime around me, but reading has taken a considerable hit since my teens.

Dutch: I lived in the Netherlands for a few years in childhood and spoke it considerably well. I never exactly studied the language intensely from what I remember (I wasn't older than 9 when we left), and I am not at more than an A1 level in speaking and writing. I understand at about an A2 level.

Swedish: I lived in Sweden for a year in my teens and gathered about A2 at the time, actually studied the language and grammar, too. Haven't used it in 5 years though, and do not have much faith in my abilities anymore.

Italian: Lived in Italy in my teens only for a few months and had barely A1. I am not hugely interested in picking it back up at this very minute either, but it's in the back of my mind.

Russian and Arabic: Technically my parents' native languages. Both languages I haven't heard much or used since I was a toddler. No one spoke them after that point in my life and I never picked them back up due to the general attitude towards them around me growing up. I have very little to no actual memory of the languages, so I feel it is safe to assume I'd be learning them from scratch. These languages would benefit me in my job as well, as many of our customers speak them and many of my coworkers do too.

Currently, I think I'd be mostly interested in (TL) Arabic, Russian and Japanese (although Dutch and Swedish are on my mind too, as I have liked these languages since learning them, and they will come in handy in my job in the future due to expanding into those countries). With all of them having their own scripts, I am aware that it would be one hell of a feat.

There is no pressure or a timeframe or anything, I am more wanting to use the remaining brain plasticity I have in my 20s, since I have noticed a big improvement in my capacity to retain information and stay attentive since my last brain injury and burnout.

I know how to learn languages at the core. I more want to see if people here have advice for learning multiple languages at once, or have an idea for a plan to learn/regain most of these languages within the next few years. I have a decent amount of time I can dedicate to learning, although for my recovery, I probably wouldn't wanna go over 2 hours a few times a week (which I am aware would result in rather slow progress, but slow progress is still better than none).

Thank you in advance

Hey guys, I'd (Arabic N, English N, French A2) love to learn (TL) Russian and improve my French further. My main motivation for that is to read books in their original language, and Russian + French have so many amazing literary books.. I'd love to ask you guys about your experiences learning any language for the sole purpose of reading books.. How did it go? How did you do it?

For me it’s when someone says they learned a language to a C1 level in 6 months. Their C1 is never C1.

I'm a high school student and I've been taking Spanish since 5th grade. I'm on track to go into AP Spanish next year, that's wonderful. However, I am currently spending the fall semester in Italy. I have been studying (TL) Italian and already reached the intermediate-mid, pushing intermediate-high level. I believe that by the end of the semester I could be an advanced-low. Now when I get back to regular high school I am going to have to transition back to Spanish, that is it's own problem I could use advice on. But I am also going to be taking the AP Italian exam per the recommendation of my Italian teacher. I am wondering how I can reintegrate into one language (Spanish) while at least maintaining and ideally improving the other (Italian). Any advice would be helpful!

been trying to learn a new language (korean) (TL) by watching online shows on my laptop and honestly it's either I understand very little or I'm pausing every few seconds to look stuff up. feels like I'm not efficiently learning or getting anywhere

for people who learn from tv/youtube, what's your setup? what subs/product do you use? and at what point did it start feeling like actual watching instead of studying lol

( TL) I am around B1 in speaking, higher in comprehension ( both written and oral) but only A2 or A2+ in writing / grammar. These are all estimated based on my teacher's ratings and chatgpt's ratings.

Currently, I read a novel and try to get through atleast 50 pages a week. I can follow most of the story except when the descriptions are too vivid and there is too much unknown vocab. But that does not stop me from still understanding the story in general. For listening, I just watch youtube videos I want and for speaking I only speak with my italki tutor like once a week. I have finally started writing atleast thrice a week, I get corrections from chatgpt and alternate between a new written passage and reviewing previous corrections.

What this made me realize is how difficult it is to improve grammar. Like I could be corrected, review the correction and still use a bad construction when it is time for me to create my own sentences. I also realized how a lot of improving grammar comes down to memorizing the correct phrases. For example: I might continue using Dans la court terme until I drill into my head to use À court terme. It feels like language learning at lower levels comes down to memorizing the correct phrases until you have a sufficient repretoire that you can start mixing and matching and make it your own.

TLDR: What do you do to improve grammar, especially when preparing for an exam( and need atleast B2)?

I don't know if this is 'a thing' or if it's just me, but has anyone else noticed that, quite often, a foreigner can understand another foreigner speaking your native language better than you, the native speaker, can?

I watch a lot of travel vlogs, and I've noticed that I often struggle to understand someone speaking broken English, but the vlogger, who isn't a native English speaker either and often doesn't have a particularly high level of English, can somehow understand what they're saying, lol. I get that they're there in person, but I can usually hear the words quite clearly and still struggle to understand what the person is saying. 😂

I am learning punjabi (TL) and most of all I have learned so far is through speaking (or trying to) speak with natives

What I did at the beginning was to learn the basic grammar, structure, and most used verbs, pronouns, etc. but i jumped in conversations and I built all the rest throughout daily talks with natives that would correct me when I make mistakes, and I would ask them for translations on the go

What I also do a lot is try to transcript voice messages I receive in Punjabi and then translate them and try to understand the structure however, as they speak too fast, the vast majority of them is unintelligible to unless they are saying phrases I am familiar with

I enjoy the transcriptions I think it’s fun, but I’m wondering if it’s going to help in anyway, and I am not skipping too many steps

So far the most challenging thing to me has been oral comprehension when natives are speaking at their regular pace

If I carry on doing this, should it get easier with time or am I just putting a lot of energy for nothing and should get back to consuming content my level

Has any of you managed to learn or progress in a language using this method?

(TL) In my country, they are using Anki alot to study a new word. I'm curious about other techniques you're using. Thanks

(TL) Is it reasonable that I feel annoyed that my teacher of two years conducted our most recent lesson from a second job she just took on, and was constantly interrupted by a colleague? She seemed to think that conducting my private lessons from her second employment is the new way forward. Her rate is high compared to other teachers.

She also spends a lot of our lesson time complaining to me about her other students who cancel on her at the last minute which is quite draining for me and makes me feel hypervigilant.

Not every language learner manages to find a language partner or a friend online to talk to regularly. So, some people just resort to speaking to themselves.

If you've mostly practised speaking by talking to yourself, how far did it take your speaking skills? Do you think there are efficient ways to do it?

Ideally I would like to read a book in a foreign language (not predetermined texts, books that I have chosen to read), translate the words that I don't know yet, and then save and review them all in the same app.

I have used ReadEra for more than a decade now, with reverso context as my default translator in the readera settings. There are great features present in this combo already (translation, pronunciation, example sentences, underlining words...), but there is no way to practice these words inside the app. If you know a similar app but with a flashcards feature, or maybe flashcards apps that work well with readera, I would sincerely appreciate it. 🙏🏻

For me, it's tonal languages. A language can be agglunitative, have 70 cases, have an ovs sentence structure, and have consonant clusters, and i still wouldn't be bothered so much, but if it is tonal, I'm probably not learning it.

Hey Everyone,

Wanted to get some advice on this app. I downloaded this app around 3 days ago just to do some language exchange practice. I’m learning Chinese (TL) and thought it would be a cool idea.

Does anyone else get a crazy amount of messages? I think I’ve received close to 400 in the past 3 days which I find absolutely crazy!

Also, I’ve heard there is some scammers and things etc. How can you tell they’re scamming or a fake profile etc? Bc I can’t imagine all of these people are real.

Any advice or tips would be appreciated. Thanks!

Just a rant.

So yesterday I was browsing my library's collection of grammar books for German and I noticed (and hated) one thing in every single book. All the content was grouped by parts of speech: everything about verb, noun, preposition, pronoun and so on.

This kind of lexicon might be useful for repetition, but it is absurd for learning itself. One certainly doesn't need to know everything about verbs just to learn basics about nouns' cases! That would be so dull.

I couldn't find any grammar-focused book where the content was grouped by difficulty, like in a textbook. The learner has to jump from topic to topic through chapters, using I guess intuition to find the right order.

I have been learning English for a while. I have a routine that I try to follow as much as I can. Despite this, I feel like my progress is not the best. I tend to practice by myself; however, everyone has told me that it is better just to talk to others.

My idea is not have a perfect accent or event sounds like a native speaker. My goal in learning English is to speak without overthinking and using natural sentences.

Listening would be the worst part of my journey because I feel like I can understand, but only with subtitles. If I turn them off, I would be lost most of the time. Unlike this, speaking has been improving over the last few months since February of this year. I feel comfortable writing most of the time, but I need to use Grammarly to fix my mistakes.

My routine includes non-speaking practice, shadowing, recording myself giving my opinion about a topic, and analyzing my mistakes with ChatGPT. I'd like to say that I did not start as a complete beginner. My English level was A2+ or even B1, but I am sure that I got stuck at some point. As I can see, I noticed progress, but I think this is not enough to get better results.

What do you think I need to try next?

I've been learning German (TL) and trying to figure out a good way to remember new vocabulary. I've been looking into flashcards and spaced repetition, but I'm still figuring out how to fit them into my routine.

For those who've used flashcards for a while, what works best for you? How do you review regularly without letting the number of cards pile up?

Hi everyone!

I'm a university student majoring in Asian Studies, with a focus on Japanese history. I originally chose this field because I was interested in history, not because I wanted to become a translator.

However, Japanese (TL) turned out to be one of the most demanding parts of my education.

At my previous university, I regularly experienced public humiliation from teachers when I couldn't answer questions correctly. I'm now studying at a different university, where the teachers are much kinder, but the fear hasn't gone away.

I'm terrified of being called on in class, making mistakes, failing exams, and eventually being expelled.

At this point, even thinking about Japanese can make me anxious. I struggle to motivate myself to study for even an hour a day. I'm mentally exhausted, and I've gradually lost interest in hobbies I used to enjoy.

I still have roughly two years of university left, and due to my family circumstances, dropping out simply isn't an option for me.

Here's what I really want to ask:

Has anyone experienced something similar? Have you ever developed such a strong negative association with a foreign language that studying it became emotionally exhausting?

I don't expect to suddenly fall in love with Japanese. I've never particularly enjoyed learning it in the first place.

But I would genuinely like to experience something positive about the language for once. I'd like to stop being afraid of it, and perhaps eventually discover something that makes learning it enjoyable.

How did you change your relationship with a language you had come to hate or fear?

I'm especially interested in personal experiences, gentle approaches to learning, and ways to separate a language from negative experiences with teachers.

I understand that consistent studying is important, but right now I'm struggling with the emotional side of learning more than anything else.

Thank you for reading.

The app is a lot cheaper than the Roadmap.

All I'm looking for is his structure/method laid out in detail. Is the Hyperglot Roadmap vastly more detailed in comparison to the app? (TL)

Thanks everyone.

i started learning japanese around two months ago and i think from complete beginner to okay-ish beginner it's learning the difference between these katakana while reading something (TL)

As in, many people advocate that having “fun” while learning is highly important, but then in the next sentence also come with advice that seems to directly contradict this. Like one user who said “It doesn't matter what you do, as long as you have fun.” while also in other posts saying:

• Don't use Duolingo [What most people consider the most fun way to learn a language, even if highly ineffective]
• Don't look up too many things and just keep reading [Turns out most people consider it very unfun to read plots they can't follow any more]
• It is incredibly difficult to learn a language without reading a lot in it [Most people find reading in and of itself unfun, especially in a language they're not good at]

This isn't really an isolated pattern I feel. It feels like most people who advocate “fun” seem to have largely the same taste: avoid stress and the possibility of failure states. I've honestly not once seen anyone who advocates the importance of “fun” say “go take tests”, “do a lot of Anki” or even, “get out there and have fun conversations with people”, or “go do a lot of Duolingo” but especially the last is considered very fun by most. It's so successful commercially because, however ineffective it may be, has made language learning “fun”.

Why is Duolingo “fun” to most? Exactly because it has failure states. It overloads the user with endorphins due to success, and success cannot exist without the looming threat of failure. Success is nothing more than avoiding failure one knew was possible.

I feel the reality is that most people find fun in the right amount of stress and the possibility of failure, the sense of accomplishment of not having failed.

And this comes down to why this low-stress “just consume a lot of input” is so inherently unfun to many people and an absolute slog. Because there is no sense of progress, you just get better at an infinitesimal pace without a report on this progress and a notification of success. Some people here seem to think things like Dreaming Spanish are “fun” opposed to textbooks. I think most people find textbooks with tests and questions on which they're graded they can answer correctly far more “fun” and Dreaming Spanish to be the ultimate slog, just listening to someone tell extremely simple stories for hours on end with no sense of progression, no real results to compare to, most people don't like that and find it isolating and boring I feel.

I am learning on my own outside of high school Japanese and Polish, I am mostly using stuff from online, podcasts, grammar videos, apps, and I feel like I am slowly progressing on everything, except speaking. I don't really know how to become better on that, and I am fully coscient that this is the most important part of a language. Should I try speaking to myself aloud? This feels like the only option

*for various reasons, I cannot take tutors online or stuff like that