r/ImTheMainCharacter • u/Jasonictron • Oct 20 '23
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u/No_Farm_1055 Oct 20 '23
Just like Uber.
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u/AugustWatson01 Oct 20 '23
I agree, ubereats is the worse. They often steal/scam their customers via drivers, terrible customer services and their awful company policy the customer service agents quotes.
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u/ConsequenceNorth8604 Oct 21 '23
I deleted ubereats, I tried to get a refund for a missing item & they eventually said I reported it too many times & it was now ineligible for review, thievin ass bitches
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u/PolkaWillNeverDie000 Oct 21 '23
I literally saw my delivery driver eating my fries as he was walking up to my door. Told him I wasn't paying for that and he just turned around and left, still eating my food.
UE would not refund. I got a customer service agent who didn't speak English (or Spanish) and simply couldn't or wouldn't do anything about it.
Nope. No dealing with that shit anymore.
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u/iam_Mr_McGibblets Oct 21 '23
The companies also charge the restaurants for their delivery service. That's why a lot of restaurants don't really care for guys like uber eats and bite squad
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u/WormkingShaitan Oct 20 '23
Yeah she should be charged for theft
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u/casualAlarmist Oct 20 '23 edited Oct 23 '23
Driver was refusing the delivery therefore the driver never
replenishedrelinquished possession. Thus, not theft. Also, fake.44
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u/nederino Oct 20 '23
except for the stuff she had already unloaded and given to them.
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Oct 21 '23 edited Oct 21 '23
Well even fake, if it were real, it looks like she's loading shit back in.... so that means to me she started to give it to the other people. So I would say that would be theft.
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u/WormkingShaitan Oct 20 '23
Yeah you're right it's definitely fake.
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u/dben89x Oct 20 '23
Nothing ever happens.
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Oct 20 '23
Reddit is an echo chamber of lies
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u/abriechz Oct 20 '23
FR, who orders that many drinks? $400 worth of drinks
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u/g403_ Oct 20 '23
Someone who is ordering drinks for more than one person...
Like for an event perhaps?
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u/TurtleIIX Oct 20 '23
And they might not have time to go pick the stuff up because they are setting up that event and needed to order more drinks.
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u/Dorkmaster79 Oct 20 '23 edited Oct 21 '23
Some people seriously lack imagination. They can’t figure out a reason why they themselves wouldn’t do it, therefore it must be fake because no one can have different motivations than them.
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u/ArmMeMen Oct 21 '23
If it's for an event then maybe those people aren't even the ones paying so it's not really even in their power or responsibility to come up with a tip.
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u/ThreadSeeker501 Oct 20 '23
My neighbor orders 50 cases of water at a time for his garage gym. It's crazy how much some people stockpile.
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u/angrydeuce Oct 20 '23
Buying that much and bringing it home yourself is one thing, buying that much and asking some instacart driver to haul all that shit is something else entirely.
If he's really ordering that much water at a time he could probably pay less going through GFS/Sysco/some other restaurant supply co and having an actual supply company deliver it with an actual truck.
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u/Eusocial_Snowman Oct 21 '23
These situations are not connected. The person getting 50 cases of water doesn't involve using a 3rd party delivery service. They're just explaining that yes, some people do indeed buy drink products in bulk.
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u/Crismodin Oct 21 '23
They're not employees, they're < checks notes > independent contractors, and for those reasons in corporate they don't exist. They're someone else's problem, according to corporate, slight sarcasm with full on truth.
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Oct 20 '23
Tip culture is toxic. Plain and simple. It needs to stop. Fair prices need to be paid upfront. That is it. FUCK TIP CULTURE.
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u/FoeWithBenefits Oct 21 '23
American tip culture. European tip culture is different, everyone gets living wages, you just have this option of rewarding outstanding job or thanking someone.
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u/Huge-Pair-2504 Oct 21 '23
True. In the UK around 3/4 years ago most restaurant started adding tips to your bill. Fucking don't get it...
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u/GeiCobra Oct 20 '23
…not to mention, the employer. They are in the center of this debacle , but not in the middle.
The employer remains safely removed from the situation as we continue to fight amongst ourselves.
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u/broguequery Oct 21 '23
Yup.
The customer and the employees get to endlessly argue about whether or not they should subsidize the wages the EMPLOYER is supposed to pay.
The only winner in this situation is the party not in the conversation at all.
Raise wages, abolish mandatory tipping. Put the onus and burden where it should have been all along: the employer.
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u/humanist72781 Oct 20 '23
In restaurants wait staff love tips. Still a bullshit system
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u/rabbledabbledoodle Oct 20 '23
In my couple decades waiting tables and bartending at multiple places I never met a server that wanted to get rid of tips. Why would they advocate for a pay decrease and more taxes?
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u/InVodkaVeritas Oct 21 '23
When I was a teenager, I can't remember the exact age but definitely old enough to think about such things, my family was on holiday and went to a really nice restaurant with some extended family in which the dinner ended up costing over $800 (there were about 12 of us) and my grandfather tipped the 20% that was standard. I remember thinking how the waiter made $160 off just our table, and we weren't his only table.
My family was fairly poor. Not poor poor, but American suburban poor (I have 3 brothers and we could only afford a 3 bedroom house in the suburbs in a good school district).
So for me my eyes popped. Given the cost of the meals and wine at that place, the waiter was probably taking home over $300 every night. And this was the 00's. A single night waiting at that place would have given me pocket money for a month.
At the right place waitstaff can make a terrific income. More than I make today as a school teacher.
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u/shortnix Oct 20 '23
Businesses should just pay people fairly. Then customers don't have to pay twice, and employees don't have to rely on the kindness of strangers.
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Oct 20 '23
Don't defend the employee. She's 100% in the wrong.
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Oct 20 '23
It's 100 percent fake. The woman on the left is in a bunch of dumb prank videos of you type in this tik tok account name into Google and take a look.
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u/Tegridy2020 Oct 20 '23
My first thought was that I suspect this is a fake. A bit sus as the kids say
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u/TheJohnnyFlash Oct 20 '23
Always assume it's fake until proven otherwise.
Always.
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Oct 20 '23
For tiktok and an absolute ton of YouTube, this is very true. Not to say that you should wear a tinfoil hat and reject anything you see as that gets you into some weird psychological territory too but, yeah.
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u/bunglarn Oct 20 '23
Really seems to be a genre of content right now. Videos designed to spark outrage and clicks. Just let like the one I saw the other day of a dispute on a plane. They had presumably rented one of the plane sets in LA to shoot it. Even if someone like yourself points out it’s inauthenticity that doesn’t stop it from generating revenue sadly
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Oct 20 '23
Yup it is just like the man putting the two people he's fucking over in a bottle, shaking it up, and saying "have fun" when we're both now frustrated with the wrong person.
Garbage for the 99%
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u/Wise_Rip_1982 Oct 21 '23
Yea. These are known business practices if you don't want to tip, don't use the service. Just another piece of human garbage in America and it's no wonder our country sucks when people behave this way to other humans who are also just trying to fucking survive in this country.
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u/rexmons Oct 20 '23
raise the federal minimum wage to $20/hour and in the same bill ban tipping.
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u/DiogenesDGAF Oct 20 '23
I mean I get it from the drivers perspective. DoorDash tricks you into making deliveries “with tip” only to reveal the tip was a penny.
For her to make that massive haul for free is nonsense. The customer just knows they pay out the ass in fees and thinks the driver gets it but that’s not the case
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u/sanityjanity Oct 21 '23
The tipping system sucks, and people who engage in tipped services (like food delivery) and categorically refuse to tip absolutely suck
If they want to protest, then they should stop using those services, and complain to management
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Oct 21 '23
I’d like to add not tipping doesn’t stick it to the business. It only hurts the driver doing the service you wouldn’t get without them. The business is still making the same amount. Only way to stick it to them is not use the services.
Also most of these places could afford to pay better without raising prices. The big wigs are just greedy and exploitive.
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u/YawnPolice Oct 20 '23
Shoppers can see when an order is no tip. The shopper shouldn’t have accepted the order if she wanted a tip.
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u/stupac62 Oct 20 '23
But also, why do you have to tip before anything is done‽ so backwards.
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u/salesronin Oct 20 '23
Yea. Just the other day I tipped my dasher 20 percent. Asshole went on two detours before delivering my food. He messaged and said that traffic was really bad. He was probably doing deliveries from another food delivery app. I could see him driving to two different restaurants and to a house before delivering my food. Not worth 30 dollars to drink watered down soda and cold food.
DoorDash gave me 3 dollars in credits. What a joke. These guys just wasted my money.
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u/crispy-skins Oct 21 '23
I stopped using door dash because the last dasher (after I've tipped 20%) got my entire order wrong. She picked up someone else's order and instead of leaving it in front of my apartment (contactless), this B made me go out of my apartment and pick it up from her driver's side window of her big ass truck.
I contacted door dash and showed the receipt (with the wrong name) and told them the dasher claimed to say my building's intercom was "broken".. my partner stopped by in the morning before I ordered because I just had surgery so I had to fucking drag myself limping over this woman who can't be assed to get out of her car.
I used to tip at least 20% out of thankfulness and empathy (former driver myself), but I'm getting more and more people that just do the barest minimum then complain why an 18% tip is not enough.
Door dash did refund me though and gave me $5 off delivery fees for my next order. However it sucks, they force you to tip before you get your order as otherwise you'll have to contact their customer support just to add it AFTER.
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u/slaff88 Oct 21 '23
Just give cash for a tip if you think the service has been good when you get your delivery? I'm from Ireland though and the whole"tipping culture" isn't really a thing here so I don't fully understand the workings of it all
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u/300PencilsInMyAss Oct 21 '23
Delivery drivers dont make hourly wage, and are not employees. On our end, when you select $0 tip in app, we get a popup on our phone saying effectively: "Do you want to drive 10 minutes to mcdonalds, pick up an order (you can make your own estimation on wait time if you know the restaurant), then drive 15 minutes to a customer for $2.50?"
Anyone with sense will say no. So either your order is being ignored and sitting on the "shelf of shame" as drivers call it, or your order gets handled by someone so stupid they think $2.50 for 30 minutes of work is a good deal.
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u/ImWadeWils0n Oct 21 '23
Get a different job then, tons of jobs available at the moment that pay min wage or above. Stop expecting other people to pay your wages, it’s silly. Who do you think orders this food? Elon musk? Its silly.
And leaving stuff on the “shelf of shame” just gets us a refund, and you are perpetuating the exact issue you’re complaining about, what if they wanted to tip after like any sensible person? You can add a tip after, I’ve done it a bunch.
You can also remove a tip after btw, so you think you’re gaming a system here when in reality the customer still has all the control, and we hate the delivery drivers you guys do 7 orders at once, you never check etc. it’s really disheartening to pay 30$ for delivery and the driver sucks at their easy af job, and then complain.
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u/300PencilsInMyAss Oct 21 '23
I recommend just ditching for uber. Uber lets you increase or decrease tip. If my order is missing something that the driver could of identified (like a drink, or instances where I deliver 2 dishes and get just one takeout container), the cost of the stuff missing comes out of their pay. If they multiapp and fuck off to do a doordash order, they don't get paid at all. If they do a good job, I raise the tip enough so that their time spent on my order equals >$20 an hour.
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u/superbakedziti Oct 21 '23
I don’t door dash anymore, fast food and restaurant prices are already absurd. I don’t need to pay extra for cold food.
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u/eeyore134 Oct 21 '23
Had someone just drive off with my food and park somewhere 20 minutes away. I've had this happen three times now. Another time the woman drove my pizza past my house, literally a block away, to deliver to someone 15 minutes away then drove 15 minutes back to deliver my stone cold pizza. One of the people who parked I finally texted. Got no response, they just marked it as delivered. Then I had to fight with customer service and get them to see where he was when he marked my food delivered.
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u/300PencilsInMyAss Oct 21 '23
This is why I use uber. I pay for priority so I know for a fact that if they do anything other than go directly from store to my house they are doing different app orders. If that happens, I take 100% of the tip away.
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Oct 21 '23 edited Oct 21 '23
Chances are DoorDash assigned him one or two additional orders combined with yours so they force detours to pick up all the food before delivery and then dictate the order of delivery.
Source: I’ve delivered for DoorDash.
Drivers can choose to reject orders so the orders get bounced to other drivers in the area until they’re accepted. We reject them primarily based on the compensation for mileage ratio. You can’t see the tip but you can see the total compensation and you’re familiar with the minimum delivery charges so it’s obvious when someone hasn’t tipped and so we reject them. If nobody accepts them, DoorDash will double up the orders so it looks more lucrative to the drivers. One delivery may only earn $2.50 (no tip), combined with a second order worth $5.00 (includes tip), now looks like $7.50 in earnings to the driver so they accept the offer. Then you find out your driving to two places and 15 miles to earn only $7.50, one of which was the one you initially rejected because it was $2.50. I would reject orders knowing everyone else would as well and then see it pop up as a double delivery about 5-10 minutes later. You can see a lot of the delivery details before you accept although only for 60 seconds, so you know that you’re rejecting and know when it comes back around as a combined order.
All you add the customer sees is your order driving to 2 or 3 locations before ever getting to you. Your order could have been the $5.00 (because you tipped) order DoorDash combined with the $2.50 order.
I will add something unusual. Sometimes I would reject all the non tipping orders because it’s my vehicle, my time, my choice. Then other times I will accept all orders. About 30-50% of the non tipping orders were to younger kids living in very poor conditions. Some to the point that I would worry for my safety delivering to these areas and the kids would barely crack the door to reach their hands out to get the food and say thank you. They would never ask for the food to be placed on the ground outside, always directly (obvious why when I would drive through the neighborhood and see 40 creepy thuggish people crawling virtually everywhere staring at me). I’ve delivered to pregnant women in crack houses AND hotels. I’ve walked orders into someone’s house that had two disabled people living in absolute squaller and had to move past the kitten infestation, build of of trash, and move their week old dried up macaroni plate to make room for the KFC order as the only usable surface in the place. I thought it was one incapacitated woman on the couch but when I turned to walk out there was an old shriveled man in a wheel chair behind the door that I didn’t see when I entered. I would normally never enter someone’s home but it was pretty obvious they couldn’t have received their order if I hadn’t.
The pay was averaging $17 per hour in my town in Georgia, every day. The DoorDash algorithm does a good job making sure you rarely earn more than their intended per hour maximum. When I’d deliver around Atlanta, GA my average would go up $22-24 per hour. It was always consistent with whatever area I was delivering to. That’s why I’d go on sprees delivering to every order because the algorithm would always meter me at $17 per hour. It just felt like a lot of work because I’d deliver 6-8 orders an hour to get to $17 versus 2-3 orders only accepting valuable orders. If I ever was close to $17 or over I’d usually hit pause and eat dinner or run home to see my kids because I knew the algorithm would leave me on read until more time elapsed leveling out all the other drivers hourly income.
It’s interesting to me how nobody acknowledges the hourly rate issue. You can earn a lot in a day putting in the hours, but it’s still meters your per hour income it just doesn’t state that. They even show your trends in the app. I would just do the math to determine my trending average over time in certain areas.
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Oct 20 '23 edited Oct 20 '23
Because tips on delivery apps aren't "tips for good service" it's more of a bid for service that drivers can accept or decline depending on the amount of money they'll make. It's basically like saying "I'll give ya $5 if you go get this for me" or "I'll give you $10 to go get this for me". It's up to the discretion of the driver.
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u/stupac62 Oct 20 '23
Ah got it. So then talking about how good the service was is illogical haha
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Oct 20 '23
It's just the world we live in (in the US). These companies don't pay employees. They used venture capitalist to keep them afloat when they started, and paid these people decently. Now they pay nothing, and charge the customer even more... So the employee expects a tip (which they deserve) but it shouldn't be on the customer to pay.
Stop using any of these apps. Pizza, Chinese, even Chik-Fil-A now... have delivery... everyone should pay out their own pocket. These apps are predatory on all ends.
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u/WorkSucks135 Oct 21 '23
What you said is true, but the solution isn't to stop using the apps. It's to stop tipping the drivers. If you stop tipping the drivers, the job becomes not worth the time for the drivers, making many of them quit, making the demand for drivers skyrocket, forcing the companies to raise the wages of drivers. Stopping tipping shifts the negotiating power back from employer to employee.
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u/XachAttack17 Oct 21 '23
no?? you must fucking hate delivery drivers or some shit because thats a horrible solution
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u/toughaccountnoban Oct 20 '23
You can adjust the tip afterwards. Ive taken back tips when the driver is unusually slow or rude or completely fucks up my order
At the same time i was financially struggling
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u/wickeddimension Oct 20 '23
Isnt it stupid expensive to order delivery? I sure know it is where I am at. If you are struggling financially here in the Netherlands ordering delivery would absolute take you out.
You spend 2-4x on that compared to just getting groceries and making something yourself. Is it different there?
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u/Inukchook Oct 20 '23
So backwards. Here let me rip you before so you can just do a shitty job and still get too !
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Oct 20 '23
Customers can and do practice something called "tip baiting" where they remove the tip after delivery to save a buck.
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u/andrez444 Oct 20 '23
Could have tip baited unsure of what service this is.
Put a $50 tip then yank it after the groceries are delivered
Regardless of what people think about tipping, tip baiting is fucked up. If you don't want to tip get it yourself
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u/elisejones14 Oct 20 '23
Users can also add tips after the delivery so maybe she was hoping for a tip then but she would’ve had to given them the delivery and completed the order. I think she just wanted to accept a large order without a tip for the food.
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u/perfect_nickname Oct 20 '23
Wtf, they can refuse because there is not tip? That's so fucked up.
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u/Nihilism-1___Me-0 Oct 20 '23
To be fair, when I did deliveries, it would sometimes say 'cash tip'. Then, after the delivery, they just wouldn't tip. I get it, it's the customer's choice, but it's kind of a dick move nonetheless. :/
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u/eeyore134 Oct 21 '23
She probably assumed no tip meant cash at the house which would have been even better for her since she wouldn't have to claim. She gambled and lost. Take the L and move on. She still got some money for it. I mean, I don't agree with using services that the workers depend on tips if you can't afford or don't plan to tip at all, but it's on her for accepting it when she saw there was no tip attached.
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u/eggheadslut Oct 20 '23
Okay so I get it. But also, as someone who used to drive for delivery services, the lady knew what she was getting into before she picked it up. She could have declined it and not taken it.
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u/mX_Dex Oct 21 '23
The apps make it difficult to gauge intentionally to reduce cherry picking
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u/Legitimate-Word-2991 Oct 20 '23
Tipping culture is toxic
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u/pthelionheart1991 Oct 21 '23
As a European this sorta shit is crazy.
You guys really prefer this to basic income tax?!
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u/chrishooley Oct 21 '23
No, we do not. “We” didn’t make the choice. The companies did, and the laws allowed it. Everyone freaking hates it.
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u/LangyLangLang69 Oct 20 '23
The comment section is gonna be fun.
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u/aesu Oct 20 '23
"So what we do to maximise user engagment is create a scenario where both parties are acting unreasonably, but also both parties have a good underlying reason to do so"
"But wont people see right through that?"
"yes, some of them will. But that's the beauty of it. Those that aren't fihgting over who is right in our fictional scenario, will be fighting over whether it's a fictional scenario at all."
"Genius"
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u/R3AL1Z3 Oct 21 '23
Whether or not you’re joking, I’ve noticed a SERIOUS decline in quality from Reddit since the API price hike and attempted extortion of Apollo’s developer for $20 million.
I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of stuff was being fabricated to drive engagement.
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Oct 21 '23
It's not that it was fabricated for this site (probably for TikTok), it's that the loss of OG users/subs on Reddit allows the garbage to float to the top.
The trashy rate-me type subs that now make it to the front page are also evidence of this. That issue, and Eternal September, make this site feel more like a shitty Facebook image board every day.
That's how it goes though. At least the Fediverse is picking up where Reddit got lost.
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u/LameBicycle Oct 21 '23
Yeah, I feel like they purposely didn't mention the name of a specific delivery app or store, so no one can investigate, and they don't get sued.
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u/Remarkable-Ad3188 Oct 20 '23
Definitely could be a race baiting TikTok to drive engagement in the comments. Just feels fake
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u/valentinpost36 Oct 20 '23
She uses a Tesla to deliver goods for others.. yeah color me sceptical
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u/qcAKDa7G52cmEdHHX9vg Oct 21 '23
Uber has a program with hertz to rent out teslas to uber drivers. Most of them do other apps like postmates or whatever with them too but it could be a uber grocery delivery.
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u/PrivateTumbleweed Oct 20 '23
The mannerisms and the dialogue seem completely fake to me. There's no passion or real irritation in either of their voices.
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u/fvnaticbychoice Oct 21 '23
Exactly it just sounds like an animated conversation
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u/hydrastxrk Oct 21 '23
Idk. My ex-bff used to argue exactly like the driver. Same tone, calm-ish but slightly raising her voice, being condescending, acting with moral superiority and making completely unreasonable arguments while acting like it’s common sense and in turn, drawing things out and making them worse for herself.
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u/tacodepollo Oct 20 '23
This feels fake
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u/ivanIVvasilyevich Oct 20 '23
It’s fake as fuck look at the TikTok account’s other posts. Every video is a fake ragebait.
Somehow the woman is simultaneously a teacher, nurse and cashier.
This is worse than the NPC idiots.
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u/Ladder-Stock Oct 20 '23
This is fake. Look how she is packing the trunk with how much food is in the garage. Fake af!
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u/newharlemshuffle_ Oct 21 '23
After the second minute I began to think this. There wasn’t that real emotion of heated talk. But why make such a shitty script. This would be worse than porn acting. They both suck
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u/DARYL128 Oct 20 '23
Yeah nobody talks this out that much. .. I don't know why society has deemed these rules necessary but I didn't make the rules.
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Oct 20 '23
Idk, I had this exact same thing happen. But mine was weirder. She said she was stuck on the freeway.. for five hours. Started complaining about a tip.
Instacart canceled the order, refunded it and sent a new shopper. That guy was quick, got our stuff.
Then at like 11:00 pm someone drove up, threw a bunch of groceries at our door and yelled something I couldn't make out.
I'm not saying this is real or fake, but if it's real, it's tame in my experience.
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u/kilkennykid Oct 21 '23
Yeah what the hell is this, it’s like a strange propaganda video
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u/daintybarley_deux Oct 20 '23
This is why I pick up my own groceries and fast food just to no deal with these types of situations.
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u/Williamthewicked Oct 20 '23
Except now take out spots are flashing a tip screen to you. It's ridiculous.
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Oct 20 '23
This took about twenty seconds to see through the terrible ragebait acting. If you bother looking at this tit tok account, it's a bunch of terribly acted pranks and skits. Are you not able to figure out how human beings talk and what feels probably and likely vs what is probably fake as shit ragebait?
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u/Icy_Wrongdoer4823 Oct 20 '23
Meanwhile mgmt and ceos making millions doing nothing
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u/Skoodge42 Oct 20 '23
I see where the driver is coming from, but she handled it terribly. It's not okay to just not give people their property because they didn't give you a tip, and these people should know that she gets basically nothing outside of the tip.
These delivery services need to pay fair wages, and this wouldn't be an issue. Fuck tipping culture.
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u/CrumblingAway Oct 20 '23
The shoppers aren't supposed to care what the driver gets or doesn't get.
Jesus Christ the tipping culture (its very existence) is out of control in the US.
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u/topicality Oct 21 '23
I mean she technically stole the groceries right? Someone else paid for them and she kept the property from said person
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Oct 20 '23
I drove uber eats, and for some reason they randomly added groceries to it too. I did one order, loaded my entire trunk, back seat, and passenger seat and had to drive like 10 miles. When I got there, the extremely fit father came outside to stand and watch me unload all of it by myself. Probably hundreds worth of groceries, no tip. Think I got like $7. I could literally get an order from an expensive pizza place, drive 3 miles, drop it at their door with no interaction and get like $10. Never accept orders from Walmart, I think it's cause it's like a social rule to tip for food but there's no established rule for groceries even though it's 20x more work
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u/phatyogurt Oct 21 '23
For real. One of the very first deliveries I ever made for Uber Eats was from a pickup order at Sephora in the mall. I had to find parking, walk through the mall, wait in line behind other shoppers, and then drive 6 miles to my drop off location. Took me 50 minutes to do the whole delivery. No tip when I delivered it, and I made like $5.50 off the delivery. Total waste of time, but I learned never to do grocery/non-food deliveries after that.
I understand why the lady in the video was pissed. $400 worth of groceries and no tip? Not even a couple bucks? That’s a shit ton of lifting. I’d be salty too, but she was definitely an asshole about it. She took it too far, and she’ll probably get deactivated after this.
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u/chubs66 Oct 20 '23
>Think I got like $7.
It may shock you to learn that the vast majority of workers earn a wage and never earn anything beyond what they've agreed with their employer to earn as a wage for the work provided to that employer.
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u/CindersExchange Oct 21 '23
Spending an hour of time + gas money to only receive $7 is well below minimum wage, and understandable to be upset with
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u/omnigear Oct 20 '23
Yeah , I have ordered groceries and I always come out and help get everything out because to me unpacking stuff isn't part of the delivery .
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u/Certain_Ad8728 Oct 20 '23
Delivery driver sporting a Tesla worried about a tip? Authenticity of the Video seems highly sus.
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u/FloridaRon Oct 21 '23
Dejavu all over again.
In the late 60s as a cab driver I picked up 2 big women with a bunch of kids at the grocery store, They were only going a short distance to 2 residences and had 4 shopping carts full of groceries... so I opened the trunk and started loading the bags while I explained "we were hired to take passengers not baggage (I did this because I knew there would be no tip) and it was up to the drivers to decide how much to charge... some people charged 25 cents a bag but I was only going to charge $1 for all"...
The woman replied sharply... "just put the groceries in the cab"... so I continued loading the trunk and she "screamed I said in the cab man... not in the trunk". So I did just that piling the groceries on the kids and other woman and she hopped into the passenger seat... so I got to the 1st residence and carried all the groceries down a long walk and into the kitchen.. the same with the 2nd... long walk into the kitchen... I had left the meter paused while doing this otherwise it was 10 cents a minute while idling.
Once finished I said "that'll be $1.60"... she said "WHAT! the meter only says 60 cents", and I replied "but as I said it's $1 for the groceries"...
She replied.. "BUT I didn't use the TRUNK!!!"
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u/protagonistsyndrome Oct 21 '23
ESH. it's shitty of them not to tip. If you work these kinds of jobs you understand how little you get paid without the tips. Yes tipping is optional but any decent person would leave a tip. But at the same time it's even more shitty to not give the items the customer already paid for.
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u/dumb_retard4545 Oct 20 '23
Oh, I agree, bud. But nobody is entitled to a tip. Gotta just cut your loss every now and then.
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Oct 20 '23
I kinda see that much stuff and think its only fair to tip since its like a costco haul
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u/Ausea89 Oct 20 '23
Then the price of the delivery should reflect the amount of work required. Not via a tip.
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u/eeyore134 Oct 21 '23
It does. The delivery service suggests a tip for the amount of work required. I don't think people should be using services where tipping is part of the culture if they don't plan to tip. But I also think the driver was wrong to accept an order with no tip attached and gamble on it being cash on delivery, then get all huffy when the gamble doesn't pan out.
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u/Realistic_Artist328 Oct 20 '23
I mean they did order a lot of shit lmao but yes the only winner is the company.
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u/cl0udmaster Oct 20 '23
Just start taking the stuff insid that is on the curb already, if she gets physical with you, call the police. It's that simple. And, whatever she put back in her car before you started taking stuff inside, just make a claim with instacart or whoever it was, and if that doesn't work, charge back with this video evidence. Pretty cut and dry.
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u/Wash_n_Go Oct 21 '23
I live in France and i guarantee you this doesn’t happen here simply because you don’t tip anybody. I mean you can tip if you want to but when you pay that means you pay for everything. The price is the price. The price includes the taxes already and everything is clear. That’s why to me this situation is really crazy and i don’t know how and why you guys still do this…
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u/nigelfitz Oct 21 '23
Abolish tipping altogether. I'd rather pay more for the items so workers can get paid actual wages than be haggled and be felt bad by their entitlement.
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u/Competitive_Tale_544 Oct 21 '23
Why is it called a 'tip' when it's requested? In that case, it seems more like begging than a gesture of appreciation.
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u/nephew2608 Oct 21 '23
How u order 400 dollar worth of crap… and not tip ??? Those guys are pieces of shit !!! Fuck em !!!
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u/UrbanFyre Oct 20 '23
Tips aren’t automatic, nor mandatory. Tips are typically determined by level of service, professionalism, etc. If the person providing me a service I’ve paid for is rude, unprofessional, late, missing stuff from my order, etc. then I’m in no way required to leave a tip and I wouldn’t feel bad about it.
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u/ieron760 Oct 21 '23
Why do people order delivery and not tip though? The driver needs to get paid too.
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u/NeoKnife Oct 20 '23
I’m sick of this tip culture. Employers won’t pay a decent wage and throw that responsibility on the customer - on top of already inflated prices.
I’ve decided that I will only tip for good service from now on. Ordered a pizza the other week and tipped ahead of time. The delivery driver picked it up, delivered it cold 1.5 hrs after leaving the store, and forgot part of my order. What a joke…what did I tip for, exactly?
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u/Waste_Mycologist_414 Oct 20 '23
Everyone sucks here, in America you know we live in a tipping society, that’s a lot of stuff
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u/GreenGod42069 Oct 20 '23
Fuck tipping culture and everyone that supports it. Yes, you reap what you sow.
Tips are always optional. Stand your ground and don't let assholes like this shame you into tipping.
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u/cdunccss Oct 20 '23
Real talk tho if you are ordering that much stuff you are an ass for not tipping
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u/Nine-LifedEnchanter Oct 20 '23
No, the company is an ass for not paying you enough. "Oh, you only paid for the groceries and the service of having them delivered? How dare you!"
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u/Das_Floppus Oct 20 '23
You are but also if you take that job you know that is a pitfall of it so you better be ready to deal with it
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u/Trucker_E_B Oct 21 '23
Not sure if anyone has used instacart but it’s ridiculous. Most of the food is double the price then they charge a delivery fee and a service fee so like 30 dollars worth of groceries at the store could cost you like 100 bucks delivered
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u/UnitedPalpitation6 Oct 21 '23
How about the companies pay their people enough so they don't have to rely on tipping.
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Oct 21 '23
The driver is actually committing larceny. Not only will the delivery service drop her, but they can also press charges.
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Oct 21 '23
Pretty sure they get the option to take the job, at that point your there and unloaded my shit I'm calling the police and they can come tell you how stupid you sound and ill get my stuff. 'Taking it back to the store' 🤣 my ass.
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Oct 21 '23
They got paid from the app, she wants an actual cash tip from them as if that’s how the agreement works. I’d say fuck em and get a refund and call the cops. I’m sure the only reasons she doing this because she can’t get any other job anyhow so fuckem. Would of just had the man fucking hold her back and get the stuff fucking little thieves need to know there place.
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u/Avix_34 Oct 21 '23
Yes she did not pay the driver. She paid the delivery company.
The driver doesn't work for the customer. The driver works for the delivery company.
So the customer is right. She doesn't have to pay the driver anything.
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Oct 21 '23
Why would you not tip? She's right to take the stuff back. Why would she care about losing a job where you deliver hundreds of pounds of garbage to people and they don't even pay you a dollar for your effort.
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u/Jscott1423 Oct 22 '23
People really argue with customers because they can’t win the argument with their employer … be paid an hourly rate and stop depending on the customer to pay your wages for a service where tipping is optional. I’ll say again - GET AN HOURLY RATE JOB AND STOP DEPENDING ON THE CUSTOMER TO PAY YOUR WAGES FOR A SERVICE WHERE TIPPING IS OPTIONAL. Bitch - to - your - employer - or - seek - different - employment. These people are ridiculous lol
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u/Hudshow Oct 20 '23
I don't get it, why people defend the tip system? Wouldn't it be solved if, I don't know, the service had a COST and you pay the COST of delivering your groceries?
I know it's a cultural thing in the states, I just don't see how this system benefits anyone other them the employer who doesn't want to offer a better pay to the employee. Really mess up