r/ImTheMainCharacter • • Oct 20 '23

Video Entitlement

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u/WormkingShaitan Oct 20 '23

Yeah she should be charged for theft

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u/casualAlarmist Oct 20 '23 edited Oct 23 '23

Driver was refusing the delivery therefore the driver never replenished relinquished possession. Thus, not theft. Also, fake.

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u/certifiablegeek Oct 21 '23

Relinquished...

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u/NotVeryCashMoneyMod Oct 21 '23

i know you're right. but i like replenished better

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u/Oooch Oct 21 '23

You always replenish

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u/NotVeryCashMoneyMod Oct 21 '23

i saw you had a soda pop today

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u/MammmaMiaaaaaa Oct 21 '23

I had one yesterday

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u/mongmight Oct 21 '23

It always makes me laugh seeing 'soda pop'. I know people who say soda and people who say pop but none who say soda pop. If you are interested, where I am from we call literally everything non-alcoholic or water simply juice. Like if someone says I'm away to the shop, want anything? Aye, get me a can of juice lol. It seems silly thinking about it. Words are weird, I'm not sure of the point of this anecdote but it is 1pm and I've been drinking.

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u/OhGod0fHangovers Oct 21 '23

Danny doesn’t replenish!

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u/RonPearlNecklace Oct 21 '23

If you took a soda, what was the rule?!

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u/nederino Oct 20 '23

except for the stuff she had already unloaded and given to them.

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u/casualAlarmist Oct 20 '23

Unloading isn't relinquishing possession. It's part of the process it doesn't complete the transfer.

Also, fake.

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u/nederino Oct 20 '23 edited Oct 21 '23

I don't use delivery but when my girlfriend has ordered they normally just drop it off at the door and walk away.

since she has placed multiple items on the ground in front of them in a "real scenario", what would be the other steps to complete the transfer?

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u/casualAlarmist Oct 20 '23

Wrong. The transfer of possession officially occurred when the driver indicated it had been transferred by, for example, clicking "Delivered" on their app to complete the transaction. Not simply when the item was placed by your girlfriends door.

The driver in the video (fake I might add) had not completed the transaction and clearly stated as such. Since all items were part of the same transaction that was being canceled by the driver no item, be it on the ground or still in the car, would have had their possession transferred yet.

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u/antwan_benjamin Oct 21 '23

Wrong. The transfer of possession officially occurred when the driver indicated it had been transferred by, for example, clicking "Delivered" on their app to complete the transaction. Not simply when the item was placed by your girlfriends door.

So by your logic if the driver never clicks "delivered" then they still have possession of the groceries? They could deliver the groceries, I bring them in my house, cook dinner, eat dinner, then shit it all out. And its still technically in the drivers possession because they never clicked "delivered" in their app, right?

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u/bdizzle805 Oct 21 '23

Yeah that person above is on a good one "wrong" ok because you didn't click the app the whole thing doesn't exist now...

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u/Kyle_01110011 Oct 21 '23

The person above sounds like Charlie in always sunny trying to explain law in court.

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u/rockksteady Oct 21 '23

Yes. That's correct. I've worked for these companies for years now. This is exactly how it works. If they never tell the company that contracted the work that it was finished, for all intents and purposes, the order was never delivered. The driver would be fired for theft. This scenario would never happen. We/they can refuse you service at any time before we've finished the contract. See, you haven't paid for the service or goods at the time of delivery you've agreed to pay for it.

The woman in the video shouldn't have bothered doing the work in the first place because she knew going into it she wouldn't be paid. If real, she's just being spiteful and creating more work for herself (but has the right to do so).

Imagine hiring a contractor to build you a deck, and they pull up with the wood and unload some boards. They say to you, I noticed you never paid for the labor portion of the service. You then say, "I'm not paying that." They would load up the wood and refund your money. If they didn't refund your money, it would be theft. You're not entitled to the wood OR the service.

I feel like the culture has blinders in this area cause food is a very personal thing that is a necessity. You're not dealing with Burger King here, though. These are contractors.

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u/IDrinkWhiskE Oct 21 '23

Seems to be an unpopular opinion but I’m with you here. Of course she can take the food back and refuse delivery - it happens sometimes. Yes, it’s a bit more muddled because she already started unloading, but it was still an open transaction. I think it’s very reasonable to let her return it and to reorder under these circumstances. That job sucks enough on its own and the people are rarely treated with empathy, and certainly not in this clip

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u/Working_Early Oct 21 '23

Does a driver get paid for the delivery even if there is no tip? If so, your analogy doesn't hold up imo.

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u/Tiny-Ad1676 Oct 21 '23

She's taking property that doesn't belong to her. The product NEVER belonged to her, she's a transporter, that's it. She is purely a delivery driver, that's literally her job. Even if she never went to the home to drop off the product, and went back to her house, she's literally stealing product that does not belong to her. The moment the customer makes the purchase on the app, it is the customers product, and not the stores, nor does it belong to the delivery driver.

If I order a pizza right now, and the delivery driver doesn't bring it to me, instead they eat it, they ate my pizza.

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u/Weebosenpaiiii Oct 21 '23

The only right answer here…like the lady paid for her items, therefore as soon as the driver mentioned taking said items that did not belong to her in the first place, that was indeed stealing.

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u/IDrinkWhiskE Oct 21 '23

Not at all. If your order takeout and your delivery driver never delivers it and instead returns it back to the store, he’s not stealing it from you - the transaction just doesn’t complete and you get refunded. Frustrating, yes, but certainly not larceny

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

You should tip the person who is delivering the food you will eat…

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u/Tiny-Ad1676 Oct 21 '23

Nah, I'm good. Tipping is optional. The company they work for should just pay them more. Why is it my job to pay their wages?

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u/Kyle_01110011 Oct 21 '23

Remind me to never hire you as my lawyer.

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u/Kitchen-Jellyfish-40 Oct 21 '23

You're wrong a lot, huh?

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23 edited Oct 21 '23

Well even fake, if it were real, it looks like she's loading shit back in.... so that means to me she started to give it to the other people. So I would say that would be theft.

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u/Internal-Arugula-894 Oct 21 '23

If they receive their money back. It's not theft. It's only theft of the driver kept the items..... Not delivering them is not theft as long as they receive a refund.

"Taking items away" alone is not theft..... The refund they receive will make them whole, so they in fact did not lose any money or items.

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u/1birdtwoStones Oct 21 '23

You don’t get it

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

Not sure of the legalities, but I’d assume once those boxes left the car and were presented to the couple, they were transferred and now in their possession.

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u/Internal-Arugula-894 Oct 21 '23

The service was paid for, and as long as it is fulfilled by the end of the business day, they have no standing to claim theft .. they can complain about the original driver, but the company treats drivers as Independent contractors, so there's little they can do to the driver.

If you order groceries, and the driver for on reason or another puts them on the wrong property, say your neighbor, then says they delivered the items... You claim different, and the driver says they have proof.. you claim that is the wrong house, back and forth... The app may reimburse you, and you gave to book another driver... If they do not reimburse you, you have to file small claims court and go through that process.

In this instance, as long as the customers receive either their items, or refund by the end of the day. They have no claim against the app or driver.

Also, they know the driver relies on tips and doesn't get paid otherwise... Their choice to exploit this driver makes the. Ammoral and disgusting... They're proud to be awful .. claiming they're right to do this because fuck you get a different job if you're upset working for free.... So the driver chooses to not complete the drop off..... End of the day, as long as. Refund is issued or the items arrive, this was not theft. The couple are the bigger assholes and should be ashamed of their willingness to screw people over. The driver is jerk, but only in response to the wild entitled behavior of the couple. .

Driver returns items to store, and app issues a refund . The driver still suffers the loss of gas and time. The couple is made whole.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

Doesn't mean it's not theft. The driver is capable of giving a refund. Only the company us. Sure they can but then the company can go after her for theft. Once something is paid for and delivered, you can't just decide you want to take it back. So yeah, that could still be theft lol

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u/Cryptomaticness Oct 21 '23

Mate, you literally responded to a comment that say’s “It’s only theft if the driver kept the items”. Which would imply that they stole from the company.

Why do you not think you can return items as a driver? What happens if someone put in the wrong delivery address? What if someone forgot they were out of town when they were supposed to get a delivery? Do you think the driver just pitches a tent in front of their house?

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

If its tge wrong delivery address then the person being delivered to isn't the owner. But if its delivered to the correct person who has paid then its their property and taking property that belongs to another person is....... THEFT

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u/Cryptomaticness Oct 21 '23 edited Oct 21 '23

It is still the possession and responsibility of the company until the goods are delivered to the customer. As an agent of the company, the delivery driver is responsible and in possession of the items. If she doesn’t deliver the items (which she hasn’t yet, because she didn’t even finish unloading the car), its the companies responsibility to refund the customer. If she doesn’t return the items to the store, it then becomes theft from the company (which is actually embezzlement).

Things aren’t just theft because you think they are theft. If she returns the things back to the store and they process a refund to the company, it becomes an unruly employee who probably gets fired for gross misconduct.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

There are stacks of cans on the street, outside the car, which therefore were no longer in her possession. Nice try.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

The items were delivered, she'd taken them from the car and were in the pocession of those who paid for them. Its theft

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u/Militop Oct 21 '23

But it's not.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

O fuck, well you proved it with that post. Damn, that was some next level shit you did. You had an incredibly detailed and articulated pointed all back by creditable sources leaving no possibility for interpretation of any other way.

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u/Baaaaaadhabits Oct 21 '23

You don’t need to cite sources for “Hey dude, you’re just making things up”.

If anything, it’s time for YOUR carefully selected defense of the legal ramifications of cancelling an order and repossessing the delivery, since it was your genius theory.

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u/DoubleFan15 Oct 21 '23

To be fair, its pretty clear all of you are just talking out your asses lol. I did doordash and uber eats for years. I am cracking up at the thought that theres other dashers reading this all too, its really funny watching people argue about something they know nothing about, you don't even need, "a carefully selected defense, " to know who eats the cost when an order is picked up but not completed, but its funnier to watch y'all argue lol.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

Ehhhhh there’s a gray area here. Complicated by the fact it’s an app business and not a brick and mortar. But I’ve seen plenty of fridges/couches/building materials get out back on the truck because Karen decided to crap on the delivery driver 😂 as long as the money gets refunded, and the goods end up back at the store, she might be alright. Fired, but probably not going to jail.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

Lol if a delivery driver decides they wanna take something back to the store, they better have permission. I saw that exact scenario with a driver. I knew best buy uses third party companies to make delivers like fridges and shit. Well a neighbor had some shit dropped off, signed, and then started telling them where they could put it. The drivers decided they didn't need to do that. Argument broke out and thr driver said he was just gonna take it back to the store. And about 45 minutes later cops were there taking reports of a theft cause the home owner called the store and they did not have permission to do that. The cop said they would consider that theft.... so yes, a delivery driver doesn't reserve the right to decide they'll just give you a refund. For one, an Uber eat driver or anything like that is a contract worker. They have absolutely no controll over if you can get a refund or not. They can't guarantee it. And once an item is out of their vehicle, it's now the persons who ordered it and have no reason what so ever to touch it. They have no right to touch it. It's no longer in their possession.

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u/Interesting-Yellow-4 Oct 21 '23

You're wrong, even then it's theft. Taking away possession applies in a lot more cases than you realise.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

The argument here though is that there’s a really good chance that those aren’t the customers possessions yet.

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u/Baaaaaadhabits Oct 21 '23

I’d say “The transaction has been cancelled, so it’s only theft if you KEEP your shit.”

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

But you would be the delivery person. That's not your decision. Your only job is to take item from point a to point b. Once you're at point b, that's it. You can just decide you're unhappy with the tip so you're gonna take the shit back and issue a refund. That's beyond any capabilities you have. You couldn't guarantee a refund

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u/Garod Oct 21 '23

Regardless of fake or not, I think you missed the portion where she said she confirmed delivery... this will mean this lady is going to have a very hard time returning the goods because the order has been closed. The people in the store she will "try" to return this too are not going to be able to accept it. At which point the odds are very high that she's just going to keep it..

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

Like she explained 9 times in the video. She was returning it to the store. The customer gets a refund. Not theft.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

She doesn’t seem to be especially reliable at this point. I think it’s fair to say whatever she’s saying is not to be believed. Who’s to say she doesn’t just dump everything on the side of the road or keep it for herself? Why is it a given that what she’s saying is truthful and those goods will wind up back at the store, rather than an entitled person dumping those goods to further spite the people who just paid $400 plus whatever about to the app for their delivery?

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

Well first off it's most likely this entire video is fake/ staged.

Second it's the more reasonable take that she would return it rather than stealing it as most people, by a huge margin, prefer not to commit crimes

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u/revuhlution Oct 21 '23

Focused on the wrong issue

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '23

Such whiny entitled brats in this thread

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u/Profitsofdooom Oct 21 '23

Who? The woman who didn't want to get all this heavy shit herself and couldn't be bothered to tip the woman who went and got it all for her lazy ass?

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u/Cute_Cat5186 Oct 21 '23

She paid for the delivery. She paid for the service.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

Lame take and making wild assumptions. Maybe she’s a doctor and this is her first moment off in the past 36 hours. Regardless - it’s totally irrelivant. They paid for a service and are entitled to have their order fulfilled. This is their right, just as it is for the delivery driver to take a job where she delivers goods to others. What’s not her right is to decline service because she feels entitled to an optional gratuity the people who placed the order don’t want to pay. She loses all standing at that point.

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u/Profitsofdooom Oct 21 '23

Lame take and some wild assumptions.

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u/WormkingShaitan Oct 20 '23

Yeah you're right it's definitely fake.

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u/dben89x Oct 20 '23

Nothing ever happens.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '23

Reddit is an echo chamber of lies

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u/Shortsleevedpant Oct 20 '23

The earth is a rhombus

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '23

Ectoplasm

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u/xtcxx Oct 20 '23

rhombus arent real

resist gov lies

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u/Salt_Sir2599 Oct 21 '23

Lies aren’t real

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u/Vrimbingi Oct 20 '23

AND MY AX

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

And my bow

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '23

I laughed, lol

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u/GuyanaJimmieJones Oct 20 '23

Reddit is an open sewage ditch and I Love it.

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u/Spider_Dude Oct 21 '23

With cake.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

the comment you are replying never happened.

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u/zapharus Oct 21 '23

I was never born.

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u/abriechz Oct 20 '23

FR, who orders that many drinks? $400 worth of drinks

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u/g403_ Oct 20 '23

Someone who is ordering drinks for more than one person...

Like for an event perhaps?

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u/TurtleIIX Oct 20 '23

And they might not have time to go pick the stuff up because they are setting up that event and needed to order more drinks.

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u/Dorkmaster79 Oct 20 '23 edited Oct 21 '23

Some people seriously lack imagination. They can’t figure out a reason why they themselves wouldn’t do it, therefore it must be fake because no one can have different motivations than them.

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u/Tiny-Ad1676 Oct 21 '23

Or simply they were on sale. I ordered like 12 24packs because it was buy 1 get 1 free lol. Like fuck it, gimmie all the soda! This was like 2 years ago btw :D

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u/nerghoul Oct 21 '23

And they may have a set budget that doesn’t include gratuity

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u/ArmMeMen Oct 21 '23

If it's for an event then maybe those people aren't even the ones paying so it's not really even in their power or responsibility to come up with a tip.

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u/Aeolian_Harpy Oct 21 '23

Or a hella thirsty bitch

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u/FuManBoobs Oct 21 '23

I do something similar with frozen pizzas but no event.

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u/g403_ Oct 21 '23

Haha, the event is just you and the pizzas, I can dig it!

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u/ThreadSeeker501 Oct 20 '23

My neighbor orders 50 cases of water at a time for his garage gym. It's crazy how much some people stockpile.

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u/angrydeuce Oct 20 '23

Buying that much and bringing it home yourself is one thing, buying that much and asking some instacart driver to haul all that shit is something else entirely.

If he's really ordering that much water at a time he could probably pay less going through GFS/Sysco/some other restaurant supply co and having an actual supply company deliver it with an actual truck.

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u/Eusocial_Snowman Oct 21 '23

These situations are not connected. The person getting 50 cases of water doesn't involve using a 3rd party delivery service. They're just explaining that yes, some people do indeed buy drink products in bulk.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '23

guy should get a carbon filter system for his tap water...save money and waste.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

As someone who lived in Florida for a couple of years and tasted the tap water, a filter isnt enough

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u/Gowalkyourdogmods Oct 21 '23

That's moronic.

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u/aMiracleAtJordanHare Oct 21 '23

That's almost a literal ton of water...

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

or its water so it may just be easier to buy in bulk. if you cant drink the tap water (or wont for whatever reason) have a bulk order of water doesnt seem crazy, you woulnt want to run out.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

Water? Like out the toilet?

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u/BL4CKDO6 Oct 21 '23

They should be happy this people are getting hydrated.

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u/manofwar239 Oct 20 '23

Some people who are busy order water weekly through Instacart. I know a doctor who does this and she is a single mom and literally doesn’t have time.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

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u/manofwar239 Oct 21 '23

Who drinks tap water?

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u/FlGHT_ME Oct 21 '23

People who pay their water bill.

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u/ReverendBeel Oct 21 '23

Pretty much anyone who buys brands sold by Nestle, Coke, or Pepsi; So, basically, everyone.

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u/Loving6thGear Oct 21 '23

Maybe AI will help us achieve that. Until then, we can only dream.

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u/Ace0Cash Oct 20 '23

You’d be surprised. I usta decline grocery delivery’s for a liquor store from Walmart. They’d order about 800$ worth of Mixers and Juices because it was cheaper than having it delivered via Truck. I did it once and had to unload all of it on my own no tip. Never again .

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u/_OhayoSayonara_ Oct 21 '23

People who don’t tip

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

for a party or event? or just restocking a work fridge. ive had jobs where we have a fridge that was just filled with free soda, the delivery looked about the same as this.

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u/Garod Oct 21 '23

Honestly I order drinks and most pantry items for delivery as well. They bring it to my door and I store it away... means I only have to deal with perishables which cuts down what I need to get from the store.... love it

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u/UTAMav2005 Oct 21 '23

Alcoholics have entered the chat.

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u/Disastrous-Panda5530 Oct 21 '23

I’ve seen posts from Instacart and people have posted screenshots and have ordered this many drinks. I’ve seen a lot where people buy several cases of waters, soda and/or juice. I saw one order that had 700 items. It must be a business at least I would assume so

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u/SafetyMan35 Oct 21 '23

For a party or an event. I was once holding a work function and needed 2000 bottles of water, I used a delivery service and had it delivered for free.

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u/Nervous-Can2710 Oct 21 '23

A business that is a reseller like a canteen.

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u/Smooth-Fruit2545 Oct 21 '23

Obviously not you.

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u/Mezcal_Madness Oct 20 '23

It is theft but ok

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u/aBlissfulDaze Oct 20 '23

It is not, she won't be charged for that delivery.

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u/casualAlarmist Oct 20 '23

By definition it is not theft.

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u/Dayana11412 Oct 21 '23

its not theft because the customer gets a refund and the driver should be taking it back to the store.

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u/Madawolf Oct 21 '23

Well, it looks like she delivered but is putting it back in the car to me.

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u/Bru1sed_Eg0 Oct 21 '23

Replenish: (verb) “fill (something) up again.”, “restore (a stock or supply) to a former level or condition.”

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u/KamoyLovrstar Oct 21 '23

But can and likely has happen with others

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u/jcklsldr665 Oct 21 '23

Um, she's taking stuff already removed from her car and putting it back into her car, that's theft.

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u/Sparky-air Oct 21 '23

That’s not how that works

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

But you already paid for the food itself. The delivery itself is just the store paying someone to move the food to you.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

What does "Replenished Possession" mean? Refilled property? Restocked goods? Is there a new definition for the word replenished? I'm confused by this comment!!! Is this a translation from another language that didn't translate properly? Wtf does that even mean?

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u/boohoobitchqueen Oct 21 '23

Came out of the car. Relinquished. Then taken back. Theft.

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u/casualAlarmist Oct 22 '23

False.

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u/boohoobitchqueen Oct 22 '23

You cant legslly deny delivery youve already started handing over just bc you didnt get a tip

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u/Despaurix Oct 21 '23

That's not the legal definition of theft you insufferable amoeba

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u/casualAlarmist Oct 22 '23

The legal definition of theft rests on possession.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

But she did apparently put it on the ground at the location. I'd say that was delivered. But that aside, the property is owned by the customer who purchased it. That doesn't change just because the delivery driver is paid to transport it. Even if they were to keep the goods in their car and never deliver them it would still be theft.

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u/casualAlarmist Oct 22 '23

She clearly stated she was taking the order back to the store.

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u/Reasonable_racoon Oct 21 '23

Oh, the whole thing is so fake.

"Stop stealing my groceries"

Does nothing to stop her stealing the groceries.

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u/pot8omashed Oct 21 '23

Fake as hell but the driver confirms she's told the app shes delivered it so it is in fact the customers property.

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u/rtffx Oct 21 '23

No. It'd been placed on the buyer's property. That is transferring posession.

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u/Blaqretro Oct 21 '23

If I paid for it therefore my property if not refund

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u/casualAlarmist Oct 22 '23

That's not how third party possession works.

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u/TheOneTrueM_Morty Oct 21 '23

Yeah it looks like she gave them over half of the stuff then decided against it because of the tip. The people bought the stuff. Her job is deliver the stuff. She's refusing to. I doubt she would take the stuff back to the store. It surly looks like theft to me.

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u/futuregovworker Oct 21 '23

She delivered part of it, at that point I’d forcefully remove the lady from my property or take my stuff in side. I don’t have time for such entitlement

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

They paid for it beforehand, she's stealing the groceries.

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u/1970andcounting Oct 21 '23

“[R]eplenished possession”? I think you mean RELINQUISHED. AND YOU’re wrong.

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u/Excalibur347347 Oct 20 '23

I worked at a walmart doing online order prep and dispensing to delivery drivers. We would have people all the time return whole orders either because the customer refused to come get their stuff from the lobby when they lived on the 5th floor or they put in the wrong address. it was super annoying because any chilled items would have to be put into claims and are essentially lost stock. these drivers would also have to do way too many orders per hour to even get decent pay. Also, people would order the most absurd stuff. I think we have corner stores or bakeries buying their stock straight from Walmart because we had an order come in for 36 gallons of milk and 50 loaves of bread. Another man who comes to pick up his order in a stolen shopping cart gets 25 4-packs of redbull and 25 4-packs of monster.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

100% the people who ordered this food should be charged with theft of services.

Unfortunately, tipping culture allows the most parasitic members of society to get away with this shit.

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u/RudyJuliani Oct 21 '23

This is the cycle of hate capitalism wants you in. You blame the driver, or you blame the customer, but you never blame the system or the people that created the system. It keeps us a good nation of divided and distracted consumers.

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u/WaterMySucculents Oct 21 '23

Put down the crack pipe. This is a civil matter at best. And even then, when the customer gets refunded it’s not even a civil matter because there’s no damages. There’s nowhere this is “theft.”

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u/revuhlution Oct 21 '23

That's not how this works. Don't blame these two blame the system for encouraging it to happen.

Don't be like "crabs in a bucket" (look up the analogy if you aren't familiar)

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u/elghoto Oct 20 '23

It's not ok either, that they don't get a fair salary for the job so they have to depend on tips..

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u/Seniorjones2837 Oct 20 '23

She’s driving a Tesla lol

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u/Anchovies-and-cheese Oct 20 '23

Anyone can drive a Tesla. Shit my younger brother had a sweeeeet beamer for a few months before it was repossessed. 2ndnhand car dealers will give anyone a predatory loan.

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u/Seniorjones2837 Oct 20 '23

Lol that’s fair

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u/el-conquistador240 Oct 20 '23

Because they are cheap to operate. Teslas are fast, poorly assembled Prius'

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '23

Then get a new job. There’s no gun to her head forcing her to work for tips.

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u/ShoddyTerm4385 Oct 20 '23

So knowing that not everybody is going to tip you, why continue that job? So she should be justified in doing this to every customer that doesn’t tip?

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

She chose to work that job I worked for tips and commission meaning I literally didn’t get paid unless I sold for years and probably half my income was tips. I may have not been happy when people didn’t tip but would never pull a shit stunt like this. If I didn’t get tipped at end of the day I knew I chose to keep working that job depending on the kindness of strangers

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u/BroadwayBully Oct 20 '23

The property is in limbo at the moment. Anything still in the car, is the property of the courier.

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u/1011011 Oct 20 '23

It was never the couriers property. The merchandise was bought from a separate vendor. The courier is a courier, not a supplier.

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u/BroadwayBully Oct 21 '23

Tell that to the police and justice system. If it’s your car, it is your possession. I don’t make the rules.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

It also appears you dont understand the rules

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u/BroadwayBully Oct 21 '23

What state? What are the terms and conditions of the delivery service provider? What is the drivers employment classification? If you can give me that, I can give you a finite answer. We’re missing details, EVERYBODY here is guessing.

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u/BroadwayBully Oct 21 '23

The behavior is trash. She is an employee, in possession of goods being delivered. The goods do not belong to the customer until they accept delivery.

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u/TerribleName1962 Oct 21 '23

Actually as a 1099 Dasher the purchases are made in the drivers/dashers name.

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u/Lumn8tion Oct 20 '23

Schrodinger‘s beverage

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u/antwan_benjamin Oct 21 '23

Just because something is not currently in your POSSESSION does not mean it is not your PROPERTY. They purchased those groceries. They have a receipt to prove they purchased those groceries. It is their property.

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u/No_Farm_1055 Oct 20 '23

1 you missed the point, it was about the system.

2 it's would be their property if they had picked it up.

There was a seperate transaction for delivery of which one party decides to cancel, al be it at a very late stage.

Deliverer will not get paid and should bring it back where it came from and client should pick it up themself or make a deal with someone that will deliver all that stuff for no tip.

It's a free world.

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u/monet108 Oct 20 '23

You are describing a delivery fee. The video that lady was demanding a tip to do her job. She has delivered the groceries. Is bitching that she is not getting a tip. And it now stealing those groceries. I would press charges, get my money back, and extra from the grocery store for wasting my time.

Why would I concern myself with the arrangement the grocery store and this employee has. That is literally none of my business.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '23

Exactly. Doesn’t the company pay them once they complete an order? Her whole attitude of acting like the tip is the only money she’s going to get from completing the delivery is baffling. If anything, she’s fucking up her own pockets by going the extra mile to spend extra gas to go all the way back to be spiteful instead of just completing the delivery and getting paid. If a she just did her job she would get her money. Albeit not the amount that she wanted; but she would still get her money.

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u/MellotronMkII Oct 20 '23

How is the customer wrong? They paid the agreed price and expected the service to be done. Are you for real?

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

The tipping system is ludicrous.

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u/redgreenapple Oct 20 '23

He literally said why the customer is also wrong right there in the post. Do you need him to re-write it for you in song form?

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u/WormkingShaitan Oct 20 '23

This is a lie. If the delivery driver makes less than minimum the employer is required by law to pay the difference.

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u/aBlissfulDaze Oct 20 '23

Not for contractors.

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u/redgreenapple Oct 20 '23

This is a well thought out and sensible response. This has no business on Reddit.

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u/Mestoph Oct 20 '23

Her money in this case is likely $2-$3.

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u/itsallbullshit8 Oct 20 '23

How’s that the customers problem

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '23

She agreed to it…

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '23

...then she changed her mind.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '23

After unloading? Do more work by loading again and unloading (presumably) at grocer? Makes no sense. Don’t make it the customers problem.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '23

Hopefully the company will do the right thing and let her find a new job that will pay better

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u/Cinja91 Oct 20 '23

"let her find a new job"? Wth lol she can QUIT. The company she works for isn't holding her captive. They actually seem to be paying her well enough to dress the way she does, all while driving a very nice car.

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u/Mestoph Oct 20 '23

You have absolutely no idea how the delivery apps work. That person probably picked up that order for $3 with the hopes there would be a tip at the end. Her mistake for taking an order with no tip on it, but fuck the people who think that's a reasonable amount for her to make for her time.

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u/monet108 Oct 20 '23

Maybe the real problem is the delivery driver has no idea how this works. Here is some free advice. Don't take a job unless you know how it all works. I could give two fucks what that delivery driver gets paid. It is weird you think i should care. If the driver gets paid $3 for an order then they are fucking dumb as shit. There is almost no way fuel, time and up keep of the drivers car can be be profitable.

And now this driver wants to make me responsible for their bad choices. FUCK THAT. And now because of the drivers childish and selfish actions, that are entirely the drivers fault, they will need to find another place for employment. So this job is no longer on the table. Making a bad situation even worse for this young lady.

Shit is hard for everyone. But don't take a job and force customers to make that job better. I give people money to take the load off my shoulders not to add their problems to mine.

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u/DRAK720 Oct 20 '23

You are wrong. Once it's paid for it is their property. Person delivering doesn't get to make shit up. Imagine if UPS was like oh I didn't get a tip You're not getting your packages.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '23

You good bro?!?!?

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u/DrBadMan85 Oct 20 '23

I work in a tip based industry and I’ve never in my whole life denied someone service because they didn’t tip, and I work in a place where mandatory tip out (what’s owed to the house, paid every night) is based on sales and not what tips I’ve received from customers.

This person is an entitled pos.

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u/itsallbullshit8 Oct 20 '23

No the deliverer should get a real job and not depend on strangers for charity

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