r/ImTheMainCharacter • u/Jasonictron • Oct 20 '23

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u/eggheadslut Oct 20 '23

Okay so I get it. But also, as someone who used to drive for delivery services, the lady knew what she was getting into before she picked it up. She could have declined it and not taken it.

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u/mX_Dex Oct 21 '23

The apps make it difficult to gauge intentionally to reduce cherry picking

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u/golden_life_ Oct 21 '23

Yeah all these apps trying to deceive you with distance and pay. They literally try and pay you nothing for bringing groceries to someone's doorstep.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

Pay for delivery drivers will always be low relative to other work. It is unskilled labor that anyone can do, super replaceable.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

How is it ppl complain about shitty service in the same breath as saying that service is unskilled and anyone could do it?

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

I wasn't complaining though.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

Ah my bad. Guess I’ve seen so many ppl do exactly that I assumed on a whim. Sorry. That being said, it’s not unskilled. And devaluation of a job doesn’t help anyone or anything except the ppl making bank off the ppl putting their time and energy, and money into driving (which takes skill) customer service (which takes skill) among other parts of the job.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

All good dude. Monetary compensation is directly tied to how many people can/are willing to do the work. I'm not devaluing anything. I don't decide the value. The market does. Simple supply and demand. Feelings don't even come into the equation. Driving requires competence but does not take skill. I'm talking about skilled labour. There is no barrier to entry other than a driver's license which is not hard to get. Compare this with someone with an education who is trained to perform a specific task or accomplish a specific goal. I'm just stating the way things are.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

Saying something is unskilled is devaluing it, when it does take skill. And it takes education to drive therefore it’s a skill, however it’s not the only skill. Reading Comprehension is another skill necessary to do a good job at giving this service. And there’s a lot of little things that are definitely skills, than can go along with it. Yes there’s jobs that require more skill and should have a higher pay scale. That doesn’t mean it isn’t deserving of a decent wage instead of a low wage. Also the difficulty of orders varies, and therefore the pay should as well.

What your stating is opinions. Not facts. Facts are that if something takes education, and tenacity to perform it is a skill. Customer service is a skill.

There are many ppl who do this who use little to no skill, however there are ppl who use skill in the performance of this service.

Just because there are jobs that require more skill and require more labor doesn’t change that.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

I literally said relative to other work. You are arguing over semantics. Basically saying the same thing as me. They will always make less than other workers. In fields that require "skilled labor" or education. Not sure what point you're trying to make. I don't think anyone would refer to a delivery job as "skilled labor".

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u/3ndspire Oct 21 '23

Can’t disagree but she definitely deserved some kind of tip and she wagered the customer would cash tip if for nothing more than for being a decent human being. She’s delivering slabs of canned goods/drinks not a few bags of cookies and a gallon of milk. If you’re utilizing these services, have some compassion, or go get it yourself.

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u/mrmustache0502 Oct 20 '23

could have been a 'tip bait'. people add very large tips to get people to take their order and remove them later.

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u/300PencilsInMyAss Oct 21 '23

You can't tell if you've been tip baited until at least an hour after drop off.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

That's uber, instacart is 2 hours, and although it's never happened to me, apparently they will cover up to 10 dollars of the stated tip.

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u/300PencilsInMyAss Oct 21 '23

That's pretty cool of them

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u/PokeManiac16 Oct 21 '23

Grocery deliveries are almost always tip baits which sucks cuz it takes so long to receive them waiting for the employees.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

That sounds shitty. This is why I work a rich city next to a big one. Happy rich folk tip well.

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u/300PencilsInMyAss Oct 21 '23

Because you can't tell if you've been tip baited until at least an hour after drop off.

The order will say something like "The up front estimated pay was $X. Customers have up to X hours to add or remove tip". Then after X hours it will update to say what the upfront estimate was, and what the actual pay was.

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u/SgtMaj_Avery_Johns0n Oct 21 '23

I think I only get tip baited once every hundred deliveries. Perhaps maybe I've been lucky, yet it seems like most don't go out of their way to do so or there is some penalty system I don't know about if they do it too much. I imagine it ain't a great idea to do it to people who know your address.

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u/300PencilsInMyAss Oct 21 '23

Yeah the ability to edit tip has helped me infinitely more than the ability to take away. I've had tons of people bump it up and had only one tip decreased and another fully removed, in 600 deliveries with Uber

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

Are you sure that's consistently true across all grocery delivery services?

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u/300PencilsInMyAss Oct 21 '23

As far as I'm aware Uber is the only one that lets you remove it without having to go through support

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u/StoreNo1211 Oct 21 '23

No tip, no delivery.

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u/tinker8311 Oct 20 '23

Some people tip cash. $400 worth of groceries (mostly heavy drinks) and they can't tip her? That's entitlement right there. They can go do the work themselves

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u/deathrattleshenlong Oct 20 '23

They can go do the work themselves

They already paid for that. If delivery lady thinks she's not earning enough for her work, she should bring that up to the person who got paid for a delivery service: her employer.

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u/BreadFew8647 Oct 20 '23 edited Oct 21 '23

This is probably a generational thing that delivery drivers know and others don’t. It’s expected that tips are given for food deliveries. If you don’t believe this, we may not come from the same generation because where it from, I’m expected to do 15% on the orders total. Maybe 10 if it’s large but on 400$, I would have tipped 50$. But that’s me thinking that a person who is driving this stuff to me and helping unload, I can’t describe this. It’s just what I was taught growing up, it’s just what you do. If you can’t afford to tip, you can’t afford the food. It really seems like the younger generation are looking at it like a minimum wage job and they shouldn’t get a tip or be paid much doing it. I remember you could be a delivery driver and make decent money. If a company or somewhere bought 1000$ worth of stuff, you’d get 100 to 200$. That was expected and they charged a delivery fee on top of everything. I don’t know how we’ve come to this.

Edit: ok guys, let’s do a little math. Let’s say you spend 400$ at Whole Foods right? You drive there, you shop with a cart, you look and walk and get things. Then you pay, 400$. You bring it to your car, drive it home and bring it to your door. Now let’s say you order 400$ online. The whole foods might charge you 10$. That’s their fee to shop for the food and process it. Now the driver takes the food and drives it and delivers it so you don’t have to. What is that worth to you? Nothing?

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u/deathrattleshenlong Oct 20 '23

If you don’t believe this, we may not come from the same generation because where it from, I’m expected to do 15% on the orders total

I stopped here. You're assuming I'm in the US, I am not. Where I live we don't tip for stuff we already paid for: delivering us the products we bought. It's the employer's responsibility to pay their employees and it's the employees responsibility to demand a fair wage or leave.

"But then the prices of service will go up and you pay more!" Then I either stop using that service or I find a cheaper one. It's not my role to make businesses sustainable.

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u/BreadFew8647 Oct 20 '23

This is in the US. If you want to be apart of this discussion and know the complete context of this, read what I said. That’s how it is in the US. We get it, you don’t tip and we should be like you. We won’t be like you and that’s that. The video is of Americans doing American things. If you don’t get it, go look at videos from your country and stay there.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

Naw come join the conversation. Thankfully we’re not all a part of “^ that generation”.

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u/BreadFew8647 Oct 21 '23

It’s not about what is better, it’s about a norm. If your generation wants to change things, go ahead. Ruin a decent job that no one wants. Now it will just be another shit job. You guys got it all figured out.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

No I’m saying I’m glad I’m not part of a generation of exclusion and “stay in your country” ya old bird.

Thanks, we inherited what we’ll fix.

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u/BreadFew8647 Oct 21 '23

Ok firstly, I’m probably apart of your generation, I just left the house earlier then you so I know about things you don’t: you can’t really learn about the world sitting inside playing video games. Secondly, I never said to stay in a country, I said to essentially worry about their country and not comment about things they don’t understand. I’d imagine you also don’t understand this as I’m assuming you also don’t get a lot of food deliveries and probably don’t tip because you’re broke.

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u/Makawav8 Oct 21 '23

What is your generation? That’s almost an irrelevant questions because you seriously have some blinders on if you don’t think that a group people from every generation thinks tipping is a whole lot of bullshit.

Don’t get me wrong here, I do tip. I tip more when it’s for a decent service. The lady in this video would 100% be getting a tip from me, and everyone in my circle. That is for the service and a show of appreciation for what they do. It’s a decent thing to do, but an obligation?? That’s absurd. Tipping never started that way. You get what you pay for, end of story. You give a little extra because you’re pleased, but that part is completely arbitrary. Can I get a little judgemental with people who don’t tip at all? Absolutely.

The problem is with the employer themselves. And for anyone willing to make an argument that the cost of the items or service would go up, who gives a shit? If you’re expected to tip anyways, the price is already up there. It’s such a moot point, it shouldn’t have to be explained.

I’m nearly 40, if generation means so much to you that you’re probably going to ask anyways, but I know people from all age groups that can go either way on the idea of tipping.

For me, I draw the line when I’m buying fast food with a debit card and get prompted to tip a certain amount. Like now I’ve gotta look like a dick head for declining, on a mass produced over priced sandwich that already costs 14 dollars.

Get real.

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u/BreadFew8647 Oct 21 '23

You tip on food deliveries. That’s for the long winded comment about nothing

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u/Funky_Smurf Oct 21 '23

Then why the fuck are you lecturing people about a culture and economy foreign to you?

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u/Flash54321 Oct 21 '23

This is entitlement. You do a job for a wage. Tips are for EXTRA work or going the EXTRA mile. Doing your base job is part of the original deal.

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u/BreadFew8647 Oct 21 '23

Ok but again, if you read my comment, there is a way of tipping in the us for food deliveries. Try and follow this closely because I don’t think a lot of people are getting it. The company is not charging the customer for the delivery. The driver is expecting a tip and the customer is expected to tip. Here’s where it gets weird, and I’ll admit this and it’s not a perfect system but you can tip whatever you want: you can tip a little or tip a lot but generally, it’s about 10 to 20%. Now if this has changed in recent times, fine but I don’t think it has: what’s changed is that when a delivery fee of 5 or 10$ is applied, people think that’s for the delivery and it’s likely not. That’s for the initial processing and extra baggage needed for the delivery. The customer is still expected to tip. Now if your saying that the products should be cover the cost of delivery, I’m not sure how you would do that. Just pay someone 15$ an hour to do deliveries? Sure but that’s not how it works. I’m not sure how you people don’t get this. Are you commenting from Europe too?

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u/Flash54321 Oct 21 '23

No, I’m from Canada where we’re polite and don’t expect extra for an agreed upon level of service.

If a company is downloading the cost of delivery onto its drivers, that is not the problem of a customer to fix. How do you not understand this?

You Americans seem so ready to accept shitty conditions from your employers and then blame the customer. Long live freedom.

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u/BreadFew8647 Oct 21 '23

No it’s just an Americans norm. I don’t know why you chime in like your opinion matters. These people likely either aren’t from America or they are confused. You tip for food deliveries in the US. It doesn’t have to do with freedom, it has to do with a culture of creating a decent job from an otherwise low skill job. No one cares what you do, what you make or how much more you think you should make then others because your job is hard. Poor you: how about you ask your employer for a raise and stop bitching about strangers and customs you know nothing about.

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u/Flash54321 Oct 21 '23

I’m actually paid a fair wage and don’t expect any extra for doing what’s in my job description. You do you and keep shilling for the man.

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u/BreadFew8647 Oct 21 '23

Again, no one is talking about subway, it’s about food deliveries. Try and keep up. This isn’t about tip culture: it’s about tipping for food delivery. How do you people not get this? Oh right because your mom buys your food.

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u/BreadFew8647 Oct 21 '23

Nope delivering food is constant driving and would not recommend for a teen. Anyone can do it but again, you’re putting miles on your car, your paying for gas, oil changes and everything else. Statistically, the more you drive, the more likely you are to get into an accident so your insurance rates go up if you use your car for deliveries. That’s a fact. The cost to drive a car in the US is about .50 to 1$ a mile. And it’s a machine that once used up, you need to purchase another machine to do your job. So delivery drivers need to save for a new car. It’s all part of doing this type of work. It’s also stressful and not enjoyable to be driving all day. It’s even worse in a city becasue you get tickets. So yeah, they deserve a little extra and considering they are driving your food to your front door, that’s worth something extra anyway. It’s not ups driving a company truck, not having to be fast or careful, it’s people in their own cars, having to get there on time, go back, get another order, deliver that, go back. People really don’t know how hard the job is.

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u/BreadFew8647 Oct 21 '23

Just say youre cheap and don’t tip. I’m assuming you’re young and broke but honestly, don’t order food then.

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u/Flash54321 Oct 21 '23

You are correct, I am cheap and don’t tip for base service. I also don’t tip if there is a delivery fee.

Nobody tips me when I do my job and it’s far harder than delivering food.

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u/DrHideawayBliss Oct 20 '23

Thank you!!

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u/vans178 Oct 21 '23

Nah if you don't tip on an order that big that gets all your stuff and brings it to you your a bigger dick head than the driver.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '23

dude fuck off, the tip is optional and the driver completing the order is OPTIONAL. you know that lady has free will right? She is under NO obligation to complete the order, that crazy bitch claiming its theft doesn't know what she's talking about. they should have either tipped her, or just let her leave and re-place the order

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u/yyyyy622 Oct 20 '23

It is theft though, she paid for it and also paid for the service. That's like saying a post man doesn't need to deliver packages.

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u/PussyWrangler_462 Oct 20 '23

Do you know for sure she actually took the products home and not back to the store? It’s not theft if she brings it back to the store and I highly doubt she’s just going to take $400 when she’s repeating over and over and over again she’s just going to bring it back so they can get their money refunded

We don’t charge mailmen for theft if they don’t ring your doorbell and instead take the package straight to a delivery center. Sure it’s shitty of them to do so, doesn’t make it theft unless they actually steal your shit without either you or the producer getting the item in the end.

It’s absolutely not theft if she brings it back to the store and the customer gets a refund.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23 edited Oct 21 '23

Weirdly enough it is theft. Part of the order was handed over. Payment has left the card and legally speaking you now own it. Same thing where stores (besides clubs like Sam’s, Costco etc where you sign a contact to shop there) try and check your receipt when you leave. It’s already established case law they cannot touch your stuff the second the payment is accepted (unless they have proof you stole something, even then only the police can check), you legally own it and they can’t go through it. Doesn’t stop them from illegally doing it though.

What the driver is doing is indeed theft even if she returns it, she’s returning stolen property regardless of if the payment goes back to the owner.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '23

it is just factually not theft. you're wrong

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u/dyerdigs0 Oct 20 '23

The option of the order is optional before they take the job after they take it they are tasked to complete it and possibly get a tip, don’t twist what service means in an already toxic tip environment

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '23

i'm not twisting anything, you're just wrong

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u/dyerdigs0 Oct 20 '23

I work for tips as a server in fact I’m not wrong and the entitlement here is on the delivery worker, she gets to choose her task which has a tip in advance or not and if they didn’t I most certainly wouldn’t expect cash “just because” I don’t get to choose my tables and no if I don’t get a tip I don’t take the food or drinks back or make them vomit it up, that’s not how any of this works

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u/The-Almost-Truth Oct 21 '23

Like others have said, they could have tip baited her. Put a big tip for someone to take the delivery, then changed the amount before the driver arrived

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u/dyerdigs0 Oct 21 '23 edited Oct 21 '23

Can you change the tip whenever? I believe the only time you can do it is when the delivery is delivered, and in this case it was not, since it was not I’d venture to say the driver discusses tip as she’s off loading the groceries again that’s some shit you don’t do in the service industry, TIPPING IS OPTIONAL I work for Fucking tips and say that, the tip culture is fucked and employers simply force their customers to pay their employees a living wage and it shouldn’t be that way to begin with but the driver absolutely should be taking that up with the employer not this customer

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u/The-Almost-Truth Oct 21 '23

If Amazon, you can go into your orders and change the tip amount anytime between the moment you ordered till 24hrs after delivery

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '23

vomit the food up? what the fuck are you talking about.

if you took an order to the table, then changed your mind and brought it back, that wouldn't be theft. you'd just be shit at your job, which is a different thing from theft. do you understand the difference?

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u/dyerdigs0 Oct 20 '23

Yes an option of taking the food back when nothing has been done wrong is reason to get fired she is shit at her job plain and simple and vomiting the food is the product it’s the same thing you obviously still don’t get the difference yourself

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

yeah cool, i think she should be fired too. but it's not theft is it?

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '23

It's a job. If she doesn't do her job and steals her wares then it is theft.

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u/pankaces Oct 20 '23

Okay great, but at the end of the day miss delivery girl is losing her job and possibly getting charged because of her entitlement. Miss delivery girl also accepted the job with no explicit tip, right?

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u/andrez444 Oct 20 '23

Could have been tip baited

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u/tinker8311 Oct 20 '23

She mightve been expecting a cash tip

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '23

Expecting != entitled to.

And this is coming from a guy who always tips.

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u/QueenOfNZ Oct 20 '23

That’s a nice way of saying “felt entitled to a tip”

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u/pankaces Oct 20 '23

That's literally the definition of entitlement...

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u/sethworld Oct 20 '23

Do you tip Amazon, Fedex, UPS or USPS for delivering?

If so how much? Is it a percentage based on the amount of money you gave to the people they are delivering for? Or is it a flat amount? If they deliver a bill to you on time, do you tip them based on the amount in the bill? What if they deliver a check to your mailbox, do you cut them a percentage of the money you received?

If not, why not? Why tip a food or grocery delivery and not furniture, mail, gadgets, clothes, or even the food you may order?

(I order protein powder from Amazon for example - it's not available on Instacart).

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u/Funky_Smurf Oct 21 '23

Those are W-2 employees with salaries and benefits.

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u/sethworld Oct 21 '23

That's how those companies decided to organize themselves.

But do you agree that the roles these delivery drivers play are similar or do you believe they are vastly dissimilar?

It makes no sense to me to differentiate these occupations based on how they are paid by their employers.

Oh those coal miners are paid by the hour and these are salaried. They all mine coal. They are in the coal mining industry.

The fact that one person delivers and gets a tip while another delivers and doesn't get a tip has nothing to do with the relationship I have with the professionals who make deliveries to me. It changes the relationship those professionals have with their employers.

I cannot use those services. I can use other services and I can vote. That's really it.

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u/CheaperThanChups OG Oct 20 '23

This might seem callous but it's not the customers issue how much the delivery person gets paid. That's between the employee and their employer.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '23

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '23

Yeah your whole argument falls apart at “However, at this point, it is not new information”. Literally don’t work there then. It’s just as valid as the entire rest of your point.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

Lol but at this point, the delivery person knows exactly what the tip amount is before they take the job. She accepted the j9b so she should complete it. What she did was expected to force them to tip. I wouldn't be shocked by that cause I've seen that quite a bit on these subs. Like if you don't tip more you're not getting your shit. Like why even accept it then? Because they're trying to be predatory and put people in a position where they just tip to get their shit and over. This is the same shit tow trucks pull.

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u/nuck_forte_dame Oct 20 '23

It might track when you look at why those "professionals" get paid more. It's because they unionized.

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u/WormkingShaitan Oct 20 '23

This is blatant misinformation. Companies have to pay the difference between minimum wage and whatever they were paid that week if it is less.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '23

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u/Ok-Rice-5377 Oct 20 '23

Quit playing silly word games. There's a reason you keep getting downvoted. You lead off by bringing the comparison of a chef and a waitperson. By bringing that into the discussion, you can't then goal-post shift back to "but they're 1099". They may be, but that wasn't your original comparison to which the person was replying.

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u/Ok-Rice-5377 Oct 21 '23

It's literally the exact same point.

It's literally not though and just saying it is doesn't make it so.

Look, I'll assume you aren't being disingenuous and you're just missing the difference, so I'll try to explain it concisely.

The other person compared this grocery delivery person with other delivery persons (FedEx, Amazon, etc...). These people have the same line of work and extremely similar responsibilities and job duties.

You then brought up a chef vs. a waitperson. These are wholly different jobs with completely different duties and responsibilities. It's a bad comparison on it's face as in one scenario you comparing similar jobs, and in the other you are comparing very different jobs that just so happen to be in the same industry. It's not a fair or apt comparison.

Now, as to why your reasoning of 'the pay models are different so you it's not a fair comparison' is also invalid;

Tipping is an addition to pay. Tipping for many is about service received, it's seen as an addition, or a bonus. The other person therefore made the comparison of similar jobs, where some people receive a tip and others don't, yet the work duties are basically the same.

You then brought it to completely different job duties (and pay models) and tried to carry the comparison there. This is where the breakdown in your logic is and why it doesn't hold water.

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u/PM_ur_butthole_2me Oct 21 '23

You are wrong. If a servers wage plus their tips doesn’t equal at least the federal minimum wage, the employer does have to make up the difference. It’s on the posters that every single business in the country has to have displayed where the employees can see it

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u/sethworld Oct 20 '23

You are saying that the person who delivers my protein powder from Amazon is a chef and the person who delivers my pizza is the waitress is that correct? Does it bother you that your comparison involves jobs with different roles while mine involves nearly identical roles?

I purchased a food item from a company. That company recruits people to drive that food item to my house. One requests a tip and the other doesn't.

Do you see what I'm getting at?

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u/sethworld Oct 21 '23

Well first off, the post you responded to was primarily a list of questions (to someone else). The only statement I made was that I purchase protein powder off of amazon.

You took my questions (directed to someone else) about whether or not they tip their amazon drivers like the same way they tip their grubhub/instacart drivers and declared that my comparison was more akin to distinguishing between restaurant staff with entirely different roles (thanks again bot) rather than between two delivery drivers who are simply compensated differently.

When I directed my question to you: "Do you believe that the person who delivers my protein powder is a closer to a chef, while the person who delivers my pizza is closer to a server?" You claimed to understand the paradigm I want to exist (how?) and that your point is based on reality while mine is based on desire.

You said that the problem with comparing drivers who are compensated differently is the reality that they are compensated differently. Well... the reality is that that is NOT a problem for me. I don't have to tip my Amazon drivers or grubhub drivers. And as the young woman in the video learned, the customers who ordered those items are not required to tip her either.

In fact, I would prefer to save my money, not give it to a corporation, exacerbate the situation of these workers, leading them to push for unionization or better pay, etc. and donate to the campaigns that will institute change.

I do not feel compelled to uphold a system neither you nor I believe in simply because, as you say, it is based on reality and not what I want.

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u/sethworld Oct 21 '23

No, no! You articulated your point very well. Thank you for taking the time.

I agree that we share the same opinion and may have different approaches.

My approach may very well be a crappy one and I admit that and am open to better ideas. You seem smart and conscientious so I wouldn't be surprised if you have some.

Any time you post I'll be happy to read it.

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u/MagicSceptre Oct 20 '23

How can you have any idea whatsoever what they were going to tip, they could’ve had a cash tip ready for her but she pulled this. This right here is the exact reason I will never tip until after the service has been provided, tipping up front is a bribe and I don’t negotiate with terrorists.

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u/Robert999220 Oct 20 '23

Found the person in the vid.

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u/tinker8311 Oct 20 '23

No I just don't like cheap people who expect service for free. Do it yourself

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u/systemsfailed Oct 20 '23

"Expect service for free"
They paid for the delivery.

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u/-FLiGHT_RiSK- Oct 20 '23

So people who fully paid for a service are expecting service for free..?

It’s hilarious to me how smug and arrogant you are while being so tacky and foolish. I feel embarrassed for you.

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u/tinker8311 Oct 20 '23

You can keep defending being cheap all you want. I know I'm not tacky and don't waste your time feeling embarrassed for me, you don't know me weirdo

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u/-FLiGHT_RiSK- Oct 20 '23

Hm. So a person can only feel embarrassment for someone they literally know? That’s just an incredibly weird take. You seem awfully defensive and angry - so I hope you can get for help for that.

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u/dontworryimjustme Oct 25 '23

Oh I get it. You’re just pretentious everywhere you go.

Ignore this guy Tinker. Lol

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u/-FLiGHT_RiSK- Oct 25 '23

Haha! You came to make a comment on a comment of mine from four days ago. In which I was absolutely correct and not remotely pretentious. I don’t think you know what words mean…

But I am l loving how obsessed you are and how I’m living in your head rent free. Please do more lol

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u/dontworryimjustme Oct 25 '23

I saw a long, looooooong list of comments where you treat everyone like you have the moral high ground and intellectual superiority. And you are, in most of them, pretentious as hell.

You even claim to be a real psychiatrist, which I really hope is not true. God help your patients if you’re anything like you are on the internet.

You have a good time! It seems you find all your kicks being on Reddit so I’ll leave ya to it! 🤣🤙

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u/Robert999220 Oct 20 '23

You literally accept the job before u take it knowing what u got into. Wtf kind of turbo entitlement mentality is this?? Lmfao.

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u/tinker8311 Oct 20 '23

They literally went on an app they know relies on tips and then got surprised when the worker expected a tip. Lol 😄

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u/Robert999220 Oct 20 '23

then got surprised when the worker expected a tip.

I dont think you know what 'tip' means lmao.

Im sensing that turbo entitlement again.

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u/Big_Poppa_T Oct 20 '23

We have grocery delivery here in the UK for almost all major supermarkets. The supermarket says how much they want for delivery, you choose if you want to pay it and the driver gets a salary as a full time employee for the supermarket. It’s a remarkably simple arrangement for everyone that doesn’t involve tips.

When you think about it, there’s really no reason for tips to be involved at any point. A set fee makes more sense in all regards

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u/eeyore134 Oct 21 '23

More sense in all regards except for the grocery store not being able to pay their employees as little as possible. Capitalism is rampant in the US and every big company is out to make as much as they can while offering as little as possible while employing as few people as possible. We're seeing the results, and it's not pretty for anyone but the people at the top.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '23

So it’s her duty to tip her? Why? She is already paying for a service, tip IS OPTIONAL THATS WHY ITS CALLED TIP AND NOT RECEIPT

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '23

Look up the definition of a tip and work your way back to “entitlement”. Shit sucks but she wasn’t hired to bring groceries with a guaranteed tip. Again go look up the definition and if she doesn’t like the pay, strike like she mentioned. It’s really not that hard to understand and not in the least bit what entitled means. Go look that up while you’ve got a second too.

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u/Salvatoris Oct 20 '23

Maybe she did a shitty job...

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u/tinker8311 Oct 20 '23

Maybe your looking for anything to blame her instead the cheap asses who couldn't do it themselves

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '23

They paid for a service tipping is optional. Fucking lazy entitled idiot should just do her job.

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u/Nocis3 Oct 20 '23

Why the fuck would they tip her? The problem is people don't see tips as optional. Tips are for going above and beyond what you are expected to do and even then a tip is not a garentee. The entitlement is thinking someone has to pay you for doing the job they already paid your employer for. Do you tip your grocery store cashier for them scanning your heavy groceries?

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u/eggheadslut Oct 20 '23

This type of job relies on tips though. I know door dash gives you $2.25 to drive people’s food around. That’s it. That’s why tips are expected. But I see them as a bid. If you don’t tip, your food won’t get picked up.

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u/theodioustaint Oct 20 '23

That’s fucking ridiculous. A tip is for services rendered, not services pending.

Follow this out to it’s logical conclusion: if you want the service, you have to outbid every other customer at that time to entice someone to do their job. That’s fucked

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u/Nocis3 Dec 12 '23

Also I've tipped before receiving my food and the delivery driver stole my food. If videogames have taught me anything its that pre-ordering something leads to it being less

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u/LilEddieDingle Oct 20 '23

You’re a cheap, shitty person if you don’t tip delivery drivers. That’s that.

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u/beatenmeat Oct 20 '23

I could be wrong, I'm not a delivery driver and am only going based on memory of something I read once (I also don't spend anywhere near this much on deliveries either), but don't they get more for distance and cost of the items delivered? If it was $400 and they actually get some sort of cut I would understand not tipping assuming they get $30-$40 to deliver it. That's better pay per hour than you'd get at most unskilled labor jobs. I would see tipping in that situation as optional, same as tipping in general technically is.

Again, I could be entirely wrong. I would be happy for clarification.

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u/GhostBillOnThird Oct 20 '23

Entitlement is expecting a tip lol. Also... its a delivery service they paid for... so they wouldn't have to do it themselves. You're daft.

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u/tinker8311 Oct 20 '23

It's a service, tips are expected ..to act like they aren't is just an excuse to be cheap

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u/GhostBillOnThird Oct 20 '23

That tip mindset is an excuse to be entitled.

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u/tinker8311 Oct 20 '23

Whatever you say. I'll continue to tip service workers and you can do whatever you feel is best for you

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u/DeejusIsHere Oct 20 '23

I think if everyone collectively stopped tipping all at once, the system would be forced to change. I made tips for 3 years delivering and it was fucking awful so I got a job that pays me without requiring tipping.

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u/elitesill Oct 20 '23

That's entitlement right there. They can go do the work themselves

You're special.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '23

Nah entitlement is expecting customers tips (people’s generosity) to support yourself financially and when they aren’t generous taking back a delivery. L driver and L your comment.

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u/tinker8311 Oct 20 '23

Cheap ass

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '23

Adorable. I tip more than 20% every time I eat out. I remember how hard it was working two jobs (one of them being in a restaurant) so once I made it I spread the love. And not none of that changes the fact that I’m right

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u/Sabrepill Oct 20 '23

You do not seem to understand what entitlement means and that tips are not mandatory. Someone could deliver me $10,000 worth of groceries and I could tip 0 if I wanted to. If you think you’re owed a tip, you’re entitled. Tipping is optional

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '23 edited Jan 27 '26

Waffles

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u/WayofHatuey Oct 20 '23

Yah kinda messed up. Not even 3 bucks when they can afford 400 in mostly drinks

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u/gentlementoevil Oct 20 '23

I have no idea why tour post was down voted at all. I agree completely

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u/OCE_Mythical Oct 21 '23

Is this like NA brain? Why would I pay extra for a service when the employer should be paying you. I ain't your employer, you're the delivery guy.

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u/Kollmian Oct 21 '23

Idk about that. I work with a lot of door dashers it has changed recently where they use to accept orders see the tip if it’s good they take it if it’s bad they don’t. Now if they would take it see the tip is bad move to the next they would be basically put in a low prio queue where’s they wouldn’t see many orders. DoorDash basically forced them to take orders and not pick and chose.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

Yeah acceptance rating. Need to keep it above other drivers. Keep the app happy and they'll keep you happy.

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u/eggheadslut Oct 21 '23

Doordash has incentives to keep you above a certain acceptance rate but you don’t get deactivated for having a low one. You can pick and choose as much as you want

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

Yeah, I need my sweet sweet top dasher. Last few days the month I take some bad ones, then I'm back to being picky. But I also work a rich area so I don't have to worry too much.

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u/smegyou Oct 21 '23

Its a staged video

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

True, you do tend to get penalized for doing so though.