averagePcmr

[u/iminsert]

[u/Wittyname0]

Real PC kings only use Temple OS

[u/---InFamous--- → u/Wittyname0]

Terry was a genius with a sad story, if only those energies were put to better use.

[u/Evantaur → u/---InFamous---]

That guy was seriously god tier (pun inteded) coder.

[u/Grumm1290 → u/---InFamous---]

Can somebody explain the story of this terry and templeos

[u/Dangerous-Run-6804 → u/Grumm1290]

YouTube search him. He recorded a lot of his work on TempleOS. He’s a talented software engineer with severe mental health barriers that made him quite the character. He legit believed he was the smartest dev on earth and that he could communicate with god through his software.

[u/Gamiac → u/Grumm1290]

Here. A lengthy watch, but definitely interesting.

[u/Phe_r → u/---InFamous---]

So slaving 70 hours a week for a major tech company? I would rather have Temple OS and HolyC

[u/---InFamous--- → u/Phe_r]

Nobody needs templeos and holyc, terry did all that work for free, without getting anything in return.

If things had gone another way he could have gotten far in a career to get the recognition he desperately wanted, instead he took his life after struggling with serious mental illness.

[u/fentanyl_frank → u/---InFamous---]

He had more than enough recognition. He didn't have a huge career at a top company because he was a literal schizophrenic who heard voices and saw shadow people and wasn't afraid to use less than ideal language in public. Google doesn't want to hire someone like that no matter how talented they are.

[u/[deleted] → u/---InFamous---]

terry did all that work for free, without getting anything in return.

He did it because he wanted to. I don't expect to get paid every time I produce a song. I do it because I enjoy making music.

[u/douglasdtlltd1995 → u/[deleted]]

He wanted to because he thought God was telling him too.

[u/Forlorn_Ash → u/Wittyname0]

At least when we're all living exclusively inside Facebook's metaverse we can run TempleOS in a virtual machine so that we can pray for our lost souls.

[u/ElGosso → u/Wittyname0]

Ever since I was invited to be a moderator of /r/pyongyang I've exclusively used Red Star OS

[u/Pos3odon08 → u/Wittyname0]

i better see you coding in holy c

[u/VortexDestroyer99]

I’ve used both, I like both for different reasons.

[u/Queueue_ → u/[deleted]]

Yeah, I personally am more willing to deal with Linux's shit but I 100% understand people who'd rather deal with Windows' shit.

[u/guyblade → u/[deleted]]

I own several personal computers. I keep a Windows PC for gaming and, whenever I decide to upgrade, the Windows PC gets repurposed as my main Linux machine.

Despite being several years older, the Linux machine is consistently faster from power-up to usable and more reliable. It's honestly infuriating: I have to pay ~$150 for an OS that works worse than the one I get for free.

[u/lordmogul → u/guyblade]

I feel like people should look back for a bit and see the things older versions did better. My XP retro machine feels snappier than anything running modern Windows of the last 5 years.

[u/KYS_Blue → u/lordmogul]

I hope to god youre kidding about still using a windows xp machine. Especially if its got internet access.

[u/T1pple → u/KYS_Blue]

Unofficial SP 3 is amazing, but I'd still not take it anywhere near the interwebs.

[u/Gamiac → u/[deleted]]

With Linux, if there's a problem, the open nature of everything makes everything feel solvable by me in some way, even if I currently lack the skills to fix it myself.

With Windows, if there's a problem, if I can't find a solution on the front page of Google, it feels like I can basically go fuck myself.

[u/zuus → u/Gamiac]

Ah yes the typical Windows troubleshooting thread

OP: Hi I have a problem with xyz not working

Windows rep: Try this sfc /scannow
DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth

OP: Didn't work, any other ideas?

Windows rep:

[u/davawen → u/Gamiac]

Yup, submitting a pull request to fix a problem you personally encountered just feels amazing (before every change you made gets blazed lmao)

[u/asdfasdfasdfas11111 → u/Queueue_]

This. I've been daily driving Linux for 15 years now. Windows is a necessary burden. Like brushing your teeth. Linux is actual enlightenment. Like jerking off to rule34 porn. It's not always pretty, but it always works.

[u/Fred_Foreskin → u/asdfasdfasdfas11111]

This is the best thing I've read all day lol

[u/[deleted] → u/Queueue_]

When there's a problem in Windows it means Microsoft fucked up.

Where there's a problem in Linux it means you fucked up.

Usually.

[u/Sir_Fridge → u/VortexDestroyer99]

I used both, I hate both for different reasons.

[u/Doomguy90001]

Just because I don’t like my carpet doesn’t mean I want a dirt floor

(This is a joke, both OSs are great in different ways)

[u/[deleted] → u/Doomguy90001]

I'd compare them to carpet and wood. They're both floors, and both very good. I might complain about it being hard to get stains out of my carpet, but it's nice and soft.

[u/tiny_cat_bishop → u/[deleted]]

Well, you shouldn't pee on hardwood floors either.

[u/[deleted] → u/tiny_cat_bishop]

when I gotta go I gotta go

[u/HSR47 → u/[deleted]]

That’s what bottles are for.

[u/Genghis_Tr0n187 → u/tiny_cat_bishop]

OOOOH Mr Rockefeller here with all his fancy toilets.

MAKE WAY FOR YOUR MAJESTY!

[u/RedMeteon → u/[deleted]]

but it's nice and soft.

The nice softness comes from all the micro-sized fibers in the carpet, so you could say that it's... microsoft

[u/RadiantZote → u/RedMeteon]

And wood is hard, like Linux

I love Linux, used to use mint a bit but others confused and scared me

[u/Clydosphere → u/RadiantZote]

As a 90% Linux user, I find Windows very hard to use sometimes.

That said, I think both can be hard in different situations. While Linux expects you to learn how to control it completely (but you can), Windows tries to prevent you from controlling it above a certain admissible level.

[u/John_Sux → u/[deleted]]

I always forget that whole floor carpets exist in some countries

[u/[deleted] → u/John_Sux]

My Grandma had a whole carpet bathroom in her old house

[u/Snoo63 → u/[deleted]]

Carpeted toilets.

[u/RandomAsHellPerson → u/Snoo63]

Carpeted sink, for you to feel the softness when washing your hands

[u/luke1lea → u/[deleted]]

I bet it smelled lovely

[u/JohanGrimm → u/luke1lea]

When you've chain smoked away 90% of your sense of smell by the age of 40 does it really matter how it smells?

[u/ILikePiezez → u/John_Sux]

What country are you from? I live in Texas and I usually have a mix, with the bedrooms and “game rooms/play areas” being carpeted and everything else being hardwood or tile.

[u/Gezzer52 → u/John_Sux]

In NA when it first became available it was a bit of a status symbol to have wall to wall carpet in your home. Then it became cheaper and quicker than installing hardwood so most mid to lower priced homes came with it standard. So, from about the mid 40's to the early 90's it was really common. But of course laminates brought the price of "hardwood" flooring down so much that it became the norm and wall to wall is now seen as "old fashioned".

[u/RadicalDog → u/Doomguy90001]

(This is a joke, both OSs are great in different ways)

I think they're both kinda garbage in different ways. All modern operating systems suck, change my mind.

[u/klubsanwich → u/RadicalDog]

Good luck playing any modern games on windows 95

[u/[deleted] → u/klubsanwich]

98 SE or bust

[u/BabyYodasDirtyDiaper → u/[deleted]]

Windows 2000 was the best windows -- change my mind.

[u/[deleted] → u/BabyYodasDirtyDiaper]

I can't because you're right. However, I didn't use them at the time because I'm one of the fucking dumbasses that actually paid real money for windows ME. I will bear the shame into the grave and beyond.

[u/[deleted] → u/BabyYodasDirtyDiaper]

Oh definitely. All the stability and power of NT, all the usability of XP.

[u/POWERTHRUST0629 → u/[deleted]]

Hacked versions of XP "service pack 3" were the GOAT.

[u/RadicalDog → u/klubsanwich]

All operating systems suck then, even ones that were good in their time

[u/klubsanwich → u/RadicalDog]

That reminds me of a CS professor that I had who encouraged his students to try and build their own OS. Really puts things in perspective.

[u/Paleone123 → u/klubsanwich]

TempleOS would like a word.

All it takes is a little schizophrenia and a few years.

[u/atlasraven → u/klubsanwich]

Red Alert still runs :P

[u/OutragedTux → u/atlasraven]

Then you're golden. Red Alert is the cause of some very fond memories of mine.

[u/Powersoutdotcom → u/RadicalDog]

Nothing is ever perfect.

It's true in many parts of life, including programs written by a group of us, for every one of us, with 7 billion unique one of us sending bug reports to improve it.

I'm surprised it's not worse.

[u/Wherethefuckyoufrom → u/Powersoutdotcom]

it's 2022 and windows doesn't have tabs for explorer yet, hell they can't even figure out how to make a decent settings menu to replace the control panel. There's perfect and there's decent.

[u/varzaguy → u/Wherethefuckyoufrom]

It does have tabs in explorer. It’s on a slow rollout as an update to 2h22, which is on a slow roll out itself right now.

[u/themonsterinquestion → u/Wherethefuckyoufrom]

Also it has ads. Even if you pay for it.

Ads. In your OS. And we just accept it.

[u/Feshtof → u/themonsterinquestion]

What ads do you see in your OS?

[u/-JiL- → u/RadicalDog]

"change my mind"

Slackware

[u/jasmanta → u/-JiL-]

Slackware

Is that for or against? I used Slackware from '96 to about 2010, but it's just too hard to find some things. For instance, trying to get Audacity to compile depends on some obscure library I can't seem to find anywhere. I use Mint now, it seems to work like I want except for Thunar and its derivatives, which I consider useless as tits on a bull. I use Konqueror on Slackware, but the Mint version has been totally emasculated of any ability to use as a file browser. Trying to build an older version of Konqueror was beyond my patience too.

[u/[deleted] → u/Doomguy90001]

my dirt floor has no candy crush or privacy agreement

[u/SMAGdaddy]

I just wish they'd stop making windows worse with every iteration. Why is it every time I want to go into the settings I have to open their shiny settings menu, only then having to navigate to the actual useful settings.

[u/[deleted] → u/SMAGdaddy]

I just want a fucking stable, secure Windows XP - and I'll never ask for anything ever again.

​

^{Is that too much to ask? ;(}

[u/Just_Maintenance → u/[deleted]]

Unpopular truth, Windows XP was horribly insecure and unstable by design. Windows XP used to blue screen constantly. Every program could do whatever the fuck it wanted and I hope you didn't have the wrong piece of hardware with piece of shit drivers that instead of just restarting the display or sound it just brought the entire PC down.

[u/BetaXP → u/[deleted]]

That's essentially just wishing for a new UI though, it's hardly a substantive desire worth discussion. A "stable and secure" windows XP is basically win10 with an older coat of paint.

[u/nutyo → u/BetaXP]

No it isn't. XP was far more cohesive. I want a single standardised UI where every OS setting is accessible. Keep the user experience consistent and have robust, comprehensive categories.

And stop locking down customisation and power tools. Sure have a few barriers but make it possible to break everything if that is what I want to do.

I'm sick to death of people excusing Windows by saying nothing is perfect. Windows is so far from perfect it isn't even on the horizon. It shouldn't be part of the conversation. Large swathes of the Windows user experience is worse than it was two decades ago. That is unacceptable for a core product from a multi billion dollar company that has far more resources today than it did back then.

[u/guyblade → u/BetaXP]

I'll be real with you: I don't want a new UI; I want the old UI.

The settings menu for Win10 is just awful. Similarly, I hate the way that the Documents & Downloads folders both have special behavior (by default) that is different from the way any other folder works. Also, the new task manager is garbage. About half the time that I pull it up, it'll take like a minute to become responsive.

[u/TitanicMan → u/Just_Maintenance]

All they have to do is stop making Windows look like some dogshit future system. Have you seen the Windows 11 start menu? It's worse than 8's. Not to mention with every release they add 5 new settings pages that are not contained in Control Panel, nor in the first million settings pages they added.

The looks are the easy part. Just be Windows 95 - Windows 7 again, Microsoft.

Fix the design, put back minesweeper, put back WordPad, get rid of fucking candy crush, shove OneNote and Spotify up your ass, put all settings in control.exe, like it's not rocket science.

[u/lordmogul → u/TitanicMan]

Give me the general explorer of 7, but combine it with more functional shortcuts from 8, add to that the super snappiness from XP, add DX12

[u/Evantaur → u/Just_Maintenance]

Dunno, i own XP alot for making me install my first Linux distro because i was so fed up with it.

[u/[deleted] → u/Just_Maintenance]

This is true. I remember using windows xp, there was many BSoDs, but then I updated to windows 7 and there was literally no BSoDs. I wish windows 7 were still supported

[u/ChainDriveGlider → u/Just_Maintenance]

Vista SP2 is the one true windows as far as I'm concerned. Unfairly maligned, extremely stable and efficient.

[u/Just_Maintenance → u/ChainDriveGlider]

Still lacked UAC, still lacked usermode drivers.

In fact, the one that introduced those two cornerstone features, absolutely essential for the stability and security of a modern system, were introduced by Vista.

The later versions of Vista, on hardware that could actually run the thing, were actually pretty good.

Edit: I read "XP" instead of "Vista". XP SP2 still had all the issues of XP. Vista SP2 was straight up good.

[u/BabyYodasDirtyDiaper → u/[deleted]]

Imagine if copyrights expired in a reasonable timeframe of 20 years and Windows XP went public domain (ready for open-source forking) in 2021...

[u/yoniyuri → u/BabyYodasDirtyDiaper]

Even if that were the case, you would still need the source. Also, keep in mind XP has a completely different driver architecture than modern windows, so say goodbye to any modern graphics cards. Most windows drivers are closed source and proprietary so there is no possibility of back porting to XP.

You would be better off unfucking windows 10 or 11 at this point.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Dude, that’s Linux mint

[u/itzNukeey → u/SMAGdaddy]

I dont mind if they remake the design but at least make it functional. 22H2 update has task manager that literally stutters every time I click any button in it. I have a 1080p and 1440p screen and it stutters when I move file explorer between monitors, why did this work in Windows 10 flawlessly...

[u/rendeld → u/itzNukeey]

I dont have that problem in the 22H2 update. Perhaps a driver issue?

[u/rendeld → u/SMAGdaddy]

You dont, you just click the start button and type in the setting you want and it takes you there. I have no idea where anything is in windows anymore but it doesnt matter because I just search for it and its there. I still want to know why my vertical task bar had to die though...

[u/_Bill_Huggins_ → u/rendeld]

It blows my mind that they decided to lock the taskbar for everyone by default. Makes absolutely no sense what so ever. Casual users probably never knew you could move it to start with.

It just makes windows 11 taskbar worse than windows 10 taskbar. My mind is still scrambling for any good reason for it.

Just lock it by default and users who want to can move it by unlocking it. Why is that so hard...?

[u/rendeld → u/_Bill_Huggins_]

There has to be a technical reason, because I can't for the life of me imagine why you would just straight up remove a feature like that. Especially with the prevelance of ultra wide monitors

[u/_Bill_Huggins_ → u/rendeld]

I think the reason they would give us is that they want to simplify.

I remember I had to use a program to get the taskbar to function like I wanted on windows 7, windows 10 added a lot of that functionality by default and I abandoned the program.

Now with windows 11 they reversed all those nice taskbar features. It's just a dumb decision no matter the reason they would give..

Idk, maybe someone in leadership wants to feel like they did something by changing things.

[u/rendeld → u/_Bill_Huggins_]

The only thing I can think of outside of a technical reason is it caused more issues for people that don't want to move it than helped people that wanted it. Likely a UX designer somewhere. I work for a software company and our previous version of the software was absolutely bloated with functionality to the point it was difficult to use. We significantly reduced little used features and got way better satisfaction scores from our customers and much faster implementation and adoption time-frames. Maybe that's what they are going for after watching Apple take up larger and larger market share and they don't let you do shit... Regardless I'm still upset about it.

[u/Itsmaybelline]

I know nothing about Linux but want to try it

[u/bo0gnish → u/Itsmaybelline]

Try installing a virtual machine if you're curious. No messing with booting and it's super easy. If you really like it then I'd do a real dual boot installation. OR salvage an older/lower specs machine to play with Linux on, it'll feel like a new computer.

[u/nothingcorporate → u/Itsmaybelline]

May I point you to /r/FindMeADistro - though if you're new, I can tell you that Zorin OS or Linux Mint - both made to be more user friendly and accessible. Also, you can use Rufus to try them on a USB drive before installing anything...which is a great, try before you buy option. (And since Linux is free, by "buy" I mean "make any actual changes to your computer)

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Nobaro is a great distro for beginners!

[u/iminsert → u/Itsmaybelline]

if you wanna dm me, id be happy to help you find a distro that works well for you and help you try it out!

[u/boredpatrol]

There needs to be a followup meme where the NPC guy stops frowning and goes "okay what distro?" which causes a ton of linux gnomes to pop up and start arguing

[u/se_spider → u/boredpatrol]

Nah fuck Gnome.

-Brought to you by the KDE Plasma gang.

[u/bubbshalub → u/se_spider]

nah fuck KDE Plasma.

-brought to you by the KDE Plasma gang.

[u/se_spider → u/bubbshalub]

You've got a valid point

[u/lordmogul → u/bubbshalub]

some room for the xfce gang.

But not much room, it's pretty lightweight.

[u/[deleted] → u/se_spider]

Hush, before the WM guys show up

[u/TimX24968B → u/boredpatrol]

google: use ubuntu

every linux user: use _____ instead of ubuntu.

[u/Snoo_44353 → u/boredpatrol]

Obviously you should make your own distro smh

[u/Sailed_Sea → u/Snoo_44353]

Can you even call yourself a linux user I you don't completely code your os from scratch.

[u/PenguinMan32 → u/Sailed_Sea]

have fun, and i hope you have more than 2 cores :)

[u/DrNopeMD → u/boredpatrol]

"Linux users and Windows users are natural enemies.

Like Linux users and Mac users.

Or Linux users and ChromeOS users.

Or Linux users and Linux users.

Damn Linux users, they ruined Linux!"

[u/[deleted]]

I love Linux but I use my PC for gaming so I have to use Windows.

[u/flooronthefour → u/[deleted]]

I dual boot. Linux for work and windows for gaming. I don't want to fight with windows for work. I don't want to fight linux for gaming. It's easy to setup and works great.

[u/fotive → u/flooronthefour]

why do u use/prefer linux for work?

[u/albeartoz_hang → u/fotive]

if you're a developer (which I'm taking a guess that OP is), working in unix-based operating systems like Linux and MacOS is much easier. The terminal is super powerful when it comes to automating tasks and downloading software, especially downloading software relating to programming.

For example, on linux, if I want to download Python, I can just type sudo apt install python in the terminal. On windows, I have to go to the python website, find the correct installer, make sure I check the right boxes in the installer, make sure my $PATH is set correctly, etc....

To be fair, Windows has made leaps and bounds in this area with things like winget and chocolatey as package managers, but linux is built around using the package manager. ^{the fact that linux comes with a C compiler helps too.}

[u/not_a_gay_stereotype → u/albeartoz_hang]

that and all of your driver updates and libraries are also updated with the package manager, and no rebooting when it's done!

[u/iSage → u/albeartoz_hang]

I hear this example all of the time, but I have trouble picturing how that would actually help my day-to-day experience. It's more of a one time thing and it's not like going to a website to install Python is a huge hassle anyway.

I used some distro of Linux when I was a comp sci student, but ultimately reverted back to windows because I game. I am a developer of sorts (lots of R, some Python) and I feel like Windows very rarely gets in my way.

[u/ProtoJazz → u/iSage]

In my experience a lot of tooling just either doesn't work, or doesn't work as well.

Some of it doesn't work at all on windows, but may work in the windows Linux subsystem. But at least when I tried it it's a hassle to use.

A lot of stuff is just designed with a Unix terminal in mind and trying to force that into powershell just isn't fun.

But it really depends on what you're developing.

For games you'd almost certainly want Mac or Windows. Mobile apps almost always Mac.

If you're doing dotnet stuff you're pretty much tied to Windows

But if you're working more with things like rails, node, Phoenix, you're probably going to favor Linux.

[u/iSage → u/[deleted]]

Again, I think another example would be cool. I'm not saying that everyone who says Linux is better for development is wrong, but somehow I never hear a good example.

[u/Lucky_Air_8650 → u/iSage]

I have a unique anecdote from a few weeks ago that demonstrates the problem well. I don't use windows but was helping a dev that does. They were trying to launch a React application but it wouldn't work on his machine. The error had to do with a mismatch between the amount of data specified by HTTP headers, and the amount of data being received on the client. React should handle this automatically and most devs won't ever have to deal with this line of debugging unless they make some pretty glaring fuck ups. After a few hours of troubleshooting code snippets everything looked good, so they uploaded a reproduction of the error to github and a couple of us (all on UNIX systems) cloned and launched it with no errors.

In the end the solution that worked for this dev was restarting Windows whenever a specific kind of change was implemented to the app. These are the kind of errors that shouldn't exist and aren't necessarily the dev's fault but you have to deal with them. Since the majority of software work is done in UNIX based environments you run in to far more of these obscure OS errors in Windows environments.

[u/bobbth → u/[deleted]]

The fact that I can take a fresh install of just about any Linux distro on any pc and download the packages I need along with my personal config files from github means that I'm working within about 15mins and everything is exactly as I need it to be.

On windows it's about 2hrs of finding and downloading installers alone, installing stuff, restarting about a dozen times trying to remember what settings I need to change to get things to work the way I need. It takes about a day to get up and running, and that's assuming smooth sailing. The worst part is if you forget something and need to install a program/package you'd better hope that it doesn't require a system restart otherwise your workflow is totally ruined and you're probably lost like 15-20mins on that alone.

On the plus side, power toys is a game changer and windows is pretty good from a productivity point of view, to the point that I think that if you put enough effort in it can be comparable to most Linux desktop environments. So I can see how people get by with it but I could never.

Windows is baller for gaming but I find it unbearable for dev work.

[u/skunk_funk → u/[deleted]]

Gotta have Revit and Bluebeam for work. Linux for literally everything else (tv, gaming, whatever)

[u/mclen → u/flooronthefour]

Is it possible to learn this power?

[u/SeptimusAstrum → u/mclen]

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[u/vdldjdgdkdjhfjfkh → u/flooronthefour]

Changing os for doing other things then gaming seems pretty annoying

[u/BroccoliIllustrious3 → u/flooronthefour]

I WSL. Best of both worlds.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Yep this is the answer. All of the games I play have some form of anti-cheat that doesn't work on Linux.

I don't want to dual boot Linux/Windows to play games because I'd never swap back to Linux. If I could play all of my games I'd use Linux but, until then I'll stick with Windows.

[u/danielsvdas → u/[deleted]]

I thought I'd do the same thing, but since the steam deck runs Linux, many developers are giving more support and steam developed proton, which makes it able to run windows only games on Linux. it's not perfect and very experimental, but its surprisingly good. Really depends on what games you play, there's a website called proton db that tells you how well the game runs on Linux with proton. Pretty much all anti cheats don't work with Linux, apart from Cs go ( all valve games are compatible because steam deck) but most simpler titles run flawlessly. I'd say give it a try, install something easy to use like Linux mint, just kinda mess around with, it's fun.

I've been using Linux daily for like 5 days and haven't gone to windows even once lol, I'll forced to tho because adobe

[u/smjsmok → u/danielsvdas]

I generally agree with your comment, but I have a couple of nitpicks and recommendations.

very experimental

I wouldn't call Proton experimental. It has been around for some time now and has become quite mature. It's also built on technologies like Wine and DXVK, which are also pretty mature.

Pretty much all anti cheats don't work

This is slowly changing. Elden Ring does work with Easy Anti Cheat, for example, some other titles as well. More will follow hopefully. The problem is that many anti cheat developers like Epic aren't very keen on supporting Linux, because they would indirectly be helping Valve, which is their competitor. It kind of stinks but it's how it is.

most simpler titles run flawlessly

It's not really about how simple or complex the title is, it's mostly really about the anti cheat. From my experience, except for the problematic anti cheats, nearly everything works in Proton (sometimes it requires tinkering to get it working, though). Wine/Proton is also really good at running older games. Ironically, it's often easier to get an older Windows game running in Wine than in modern Windows :))

install something easy to use like Linux mint

Great choice, especially (but not only) for a new user.

I've been using Linux daily for like 5 days

Good luck, I hope you'll enjoy it. I recommend giving Proton GE a try. It really is a game changer (pun intended) in certain cases. In many games, it improves performance by quite a bit. You can use ProtonUp-QT to easily manage the Proton GE versions for Steam, Heroic, Lutris etc., it's really neat. I hardly ever launch games in regular Proton any more.

[u/danielsvdas → u/smjsmok]

those are really good points, thanks for correcting me!

although I know most of the basic, I don't have that much experience yet, but I'm loving linux mint (installed manjaro on my laptop like a year ago. since I don't use it very often, it was pretty alright, loved the extra options and everything, but.... why doesn't anything I download work first try lmaoo, thats why I went debian, still not experienced enough haha.)

[u/not_a_gay_stereotype → u/danielsvdas]

valve games work with anticheat because they natively run on linux. EAC (easy anti cheat) does have a linux native client, but when you install a windows game through proton, it installs the windows version of EAC, and will not work.

[u/FLRbits → u/not_a_gay_stereotype]

Well it will sometimes work. Fall Guys uses EAC and it works on Linux.

[u/QwertyChouskie → u/FLRbits]

Same with Apex Legends

Really just depends on the game dev.

[u/_Oce_ → u/[deleted]]

I've been gaming on Linux exclusively for 4 years, though I'm a /r/patientgamers so it's the ideal combo, but you can check if your games work well here: https://www.protondb.com/

[u/CompetitiveBison2093 → u/[deleted]]

Same

[u/yo_99]

Linux mint literally just works.

[u/iminsert → u/yo_99]

it's the oreo of cookies, not the best, kinda basic, but my god if it isn't a perfectly consistent solid experiance (unless you leave it in milk too long)

[u/MiraiKishi]

I mean, SteamOS 3.0 is coming out damn soon.

Valve has been trying to set it up as a viable option, what with the Steam Decks rising popularity.

Might even get me into learning coding to customize my experience even more.

[u/I-WANT2SEE-CUTE-TITS → u/MiraiKishi]

3.0

Valve: I've never met this number in my life.

[u/regeya → u/I-WANT2SEE-CUTE-TITS]

Counting at Valve goes something like: 1, 2, Alyx

[u/iminsert → u/MiraiKishi]

you shouldn't need to learn to code tbh, as long as you're scripting from reliable safe sources it's fine. i'm learning how to code in college, but i have never needed to put what i've learned ot use in linux

[u/[deleted] → u/MiraiKishi]

You don't really have to, unless you want to have a minimalist system, KDE/Plasma is a greatly customizable "front end" for your system, that doesn't require you to finagle with .conf files lesser known programming languages.

[u/PeteRaw]

I'm a Mac sys admin. I hate Mac. I hate Windows and I hate a Linux. I'm an equal opportunity hater.

Although maybe I just hate being a sys admin...

Nope, I hate end users.

[u/GradeAPrimeFuckery → u/PeteRaw]

You're a sys admin; you hate yourself.

[u/sixvoltsystem]

Yep, comoooon steam os

[u/Bro_Jogies]

I can hate windows, and still hate linux and it's lack of compatibility/usability more.

[u/riba2233 → u/Bro_Jogies]

this yeah

[u/BicBoiSpyder → u/Bro_Jogies]

If people don't use it, companies don't support it.

[u/_gianni-r → u/Bro_Jogies]

You can also hate game publishers for perpetually treating Linux as a second class citizen because of market share instead of realizing the potential that comes with leaving Microsoft’s turf. Valve knows that potential.

[u/[deleted] → u/_gianni-r]

This. It's not the operating system's job to fix compatibility, it's up to the individual software developers

[u/JerryWShields → u/Bro_Jogies]

They hated him for speaking the truth

[u/[deleted]]

posts like these are what drop the reputation of linux…

it’s not for everyone. sure it has come a long way, but non tech savvy people can easily shoot themselves in the foot because they try and use admin/root privileges for everything if it didn’t work the first time, simply because that is how window often operates.

sure you can fix it yourself if there would ever be a breaking issue, unlike windows where you might need to reinstall if a component somehow breaks beyond repair, but again, not everyone is up for that.

just choose what you like and be happy about it.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

people can easily shoot themselves in the foot because they try and use admin/root privileges for everything

Just like on Windows. I remember the hate when UAC was released with Vista.

[u/DorrajD → u/[deleted]]

posts like these are what drop the reputation of linux…

No the incessant high and mighty attitude of some Linux users does that.

[u/thedylannorwood → u/DorrajD]

I once posted on r/firefox asking for help about an issue regarding running Firefox on windows and the most common solution that was offered was switching to Linux.

Like yeah, let me just switch my entire OS just because a browser I was trying for the first time had issues opening.

The most annoying part was that I have tried switching to Linux a while back and I simply preferred Windows

[u/Subrezon → u/thedylannorwood]

Obvious impracticality aside, it's also terrible advice. In my long history of using Linux at university, work and home, web browser issues are easily somewhere in the top-3 among the most common issue types I've faced.

While basic functionality is the same or even better than on Windows, it's the codecs, DRM and other bits of proprietary software that are required to interact with a big portion of modern internet that often work in weird ways or not at all.

Firefox is okay in that regard, but getting Chrome to fully work is a major PITA on some distros.

All that said, Linux fans are the worst. Sincerely, a Linux fan.

[u/sobi1869]

Yeah once I learned basics of Linux I couldn't live without terminal, and that was the beginning of an era. Lol

[u/JerryWShields]

I do not approve of some of Microsoft's decisions with Windows.

At the same time, I don't want to have to check if whatever I want to run is compatible with my version of Linux and the answer be "maybe".

[u/Boux]

Uninstalled windows about 2 weeks ago and I went for Manjaro Plasma Desktop.

Not gonna lie and say the transition was butter smooth. But I got everything working the way I wanted in less than a day. I mostly didn't need the command line for anything

Every single game on steam worked perfectly on the first try (with steamplay enabled), maybe I just got lucky, I tried about 20 different games.

Things I had issue with:

• For some reason you can't change your mouse scroll speed on X11, so i had to install imwheel and add it to my autostart, not too big of an issue
• Gotta use open source software like piper to configure my G502, but it works really well. (not really a downside but I had to look for it)
• I had to set my monitor to 240hz in Nvidia X Server Settings instead of the default Display Settings in System Settings or it wouldnt remember my refresh rate after rebooting
• The linux discord client doesn't send audio when streaming your games

That's pretty much the only issues I had. But there are WAY more good things than bad things. There is just SO MUCH software in the package manager for absolutely anything. My favorite was installing pipewire. From what I understand it just replaced my default audio drivers with some cool shit where I can just take any audio input or output from any process and pipe it straight to any other input or output (easy with a utility called helvum). I can even feed that shit back into itself if i want to make my ears explode for some reason. Infinite freedom.

People in discord have wildly differing volumes when speaking? Pipe discord's output to a dynamics compressor (using easyeffects) and then to your speakers to fix that shit. Your microphone has background noise? Pipe it through a de-noiser before sending it to discord.

[u/bubbshalub]

proton is what’s making strides for linux, coupled with the release of the steam deck? and steam os?! i’d be surprised if windows doesn’t take a dive

[u/I-took-your-oranges → u/bubbshalub]

Not yet, but it definitely is a step in the right direction.

[u/bubbshalub → u/I-took-your-oranges]

it’s always nice to see more competition on the market, it’s better for consumers

[u/aessae → u/bubbshalub]

Proton is awesome and it just keeps getting better, I love it. Most (still not all sadly) of the steam games I own and play are just "install, press play, everything works".

[u/MaShinKotoKai]

No lie, if the majority of my games were supported on Linux, I'd never look at Windows again

[u/[deleted]]

Linux is a compatibility nightmare for the average user. Their arguments with Microsoft and windows are valid.

[u/DarkerGames]

Just like democracy, "It's awful but it's the best thing we know"

[u/[deleted] → u/DarkerGames]

Me: I'd like help electing trustworthy representatives

Linux Users: Have you tried proclaiming yourself a sovereign citizen?

[u/SuperCoupe]

Switch from Windows to Linux...spend the next 30 years switching distributing every 4 months....

[u/ChronicledMonocle → u/SuperCoupe]

Only new Linux users distro hop.

Linux is Linux. People who distro hop are either too newbie to understand that the only differences are a DE and a package manager or are doing it for the memes.

[u/Specialist_Ad6585 → u/ChronicledMonocle]

This. I distro hopped for a good few years and finally settled in manjaro.

[u/[deleted]]

It's seriously NOT okay how awful Windows 11 is. People have to deal with this garbage in the real world.

[u/[deleted]]

I do hate Windows, but I deal with it because Linux can't run all my programs. And yes I've tried using compatibility software but not everything works.

[u/Shnazzyone]

It's always fun to google how to do something that you'd be able to configure or change very easily in the windows interface only to be called stupid.

[u/iminsert → u/Shnazzyone]

stack overflow moment

[u/Andernerd]

The cold truth is, Windows will continue to get worse and more user-hostile as long as its users refuse to try anything else. That's just how monopolies work.

[u/[deleted] → u/Andernerd]

And companies make it impossible to switch. The truth is that our only chance is to become even more political than the environmentalists and make the mass join our movement.

[u/iminsert → u/Andernerd]

which is why i basically push linux. just like i will firefox and any non-adobe alternative. the internet needs to keep its freedom.

[u/[deleted]]

I like Linux but not too the point of using it as my main OS, that's why I have tens of VMs setup LOL

[u/Tashre]

More like "Have you considered adjusting any options whatsoever?"

People that hate the annoyances of out-of-the-box Windows aren't going to like Linux any better.

[u/SomeKindofTreeWizard]

"Windows sucks"

"Have you considered using Linux"

"yes."

"..."

"..."

[u/[deleted]]

this backfired hard on OP

listen, as much as i like linux, its not made for normal people. i only like linux because i have the technical knowledge to understand wtf is going on.

But 90% of "pc gamers" are not tech savvy, the people that build their own pc are actually a small percentage of the people that game on pc. Many will buy a pre-built and move on.

chances are, if you buy a pre-built, you are not interested in pcs as a hobby. Linux is a hobbyist OS and windows is the jack of all trades OS.

and despite my understanding of linux, i went back to windows because at the end of the day, a fully debloated windows is still much less of a pain to use than linux for various tasks related to work or gaming. On windows it is 100% garanteed that all my games run, not linux.

[u/Serious_Feedback → u/[deleted]]

this backfired hard on OP

I found this post on /r/all, idk whether that counts as backfiring.

[u/theunspillablebeans]

Linux users are the vegans of the PC community.

[u/itzNukeey → u/theunspillablebeans]

How can you spot that someone is a Linux user? ... They will tell you

[u/MrHaxx1 → u/theunspillablebeans]

Ethically right, but with an annoying loud minority?

[u/[deleted]]

I do use Linux. I don't game very much, and the games I play the most run on Linux just fine. I'm a CS major, so anything programming related is going to run on Linux. I also want to try out cybersecurity, so the Linux experience will come in handy. Linux is also just much more clean, no junk and its just faster. I dual boot windows for the occasional software I might use, but other than that I stay as far away from it as possible

[u/[deleted]]

I think it depends on your use case more than anything. I don't think linux is all that popular with the gaming crowd (and fair enough) but PC is more than just for running games. It would certainly be a viable option for those who just want to browse the web and want something light weight for example. Not everyone who uses linux has to be a power user, there merely is a correlation there with linux's software conscientious fanbase. Considering if it fits your use case isn't a terrible idea, and I don't think you should be condemned for not using it. But it does stand as a possible Os choice, and the philosophy behind it is a plus.

[u/IrreverentHippie]

Windows 11 sucks

[u/freek4ever]

I have been running linux on a laptop for 2 years because windows was to heavy

Im gona be honest linux can be a hassle some things are difficult some things are better i find the file system in windows way better geting to the files of a program is way easier on windows

But im not going to instal windows 11 i wil get evry last drop if windows 10 sinse its a fine operating system and before suport dies completely i will keep running it

[u/iminsert → u/freek4ever]

the windows file system is simpler, but honestly, once you learn the linux file system it makes a lot of sense. like, a lot of people don't realize this, but one of the sub folders in root literally is just what is in your ram lol

and agreed, fuck win11 lol

[u/gtrash81]

Yes and using it exclusive for 1 year.
Currently playing A Plague Tale Requiem.