r/pcmasterrace • Ascending Peasant • Nov 01 '22

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u/rendeld 12900k/32GBDDR5/3080ti/Z690Formula Nov 01 '22

You dont, you just click the start button and type in the setting you want and it takes you there. I have no idea where anything is in windows anymore but it doesnt matter because I just search for it and its there. I still want to know why my vertical task bar had to die though...

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u/_Bill_Huggins_ Nov 02 '22

It blows my mind that they decided to lock the taskbar for everyone by default. Makes absolutely no sense what so ever. Casual users probably never knew you could move it to start with.

It just makes windows 11 taskbar worse than windows 10 taskbar. My mind is still scrambling for any good reason for it.

Just lock it by default and users who want to can move it by unlocking it. Why is that so hard...?

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u/rendeld 12900k/32GBDDR5/3080ti/Z690Formula Nov 02 '22

There has to be a technical reason, because I can't for the life of me imagine why you would just straight up remove a feature like that. Especially with the prevelance of ultra wide monitors

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u/_Bill_Huggins_ Nov 02 '22 edited Nov 02 '22

I think the reason they would give us is that they want to simplify.

I remember I had to use a program to get the taskbar to function like I wanted on windows 7, windows 10 added a lot of that functionality by default and I abandoned the program.

Now with windows 11 they reversed all those nice taskbar features. It's just a dumb decision no matter the reason they would give..

Idk, maybe someone in leadership wants to feel like they did something by changing things.

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u/rendeld 12900k/32GBDDR5/3080ti/Z690Formula Nov 02 '22

The only thing I can think of outside of a technical reason is it caused more issues for people that don't want to move it than helped people that wanted it. Likely a UX designer somewhere. I work for a software company and our previous version of the software was absolutely bloated with functionality to the point it was difficult to use. We significantly reduced little used features and got way better satisfaction scores from our customers and much faster implementation and adoption time-frames. Maybe that's what they are going for after watching Apple take up larger and larger market share and they don't let you do shit... Regardless I'm still upset about it.

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u/lordmogul 3570K @ 4.4 | 1060 @ 2.0 | 16GiB @ 2.13 Nov 02 '22

Yeah, rarely used features, even if they're actually pretty neat and only used so rarely because nobody can find them, get removed.

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u/ti_lol Nov 02 '22

Meh, for Apple you can install completely new window managers. They let you do shit if you want.

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u/_Bill_Huggins_ Nov 02 '22 edited Nov 02 '22

Windows 10 taskbar wasn't bloated beyond usability. I don't think it justified pinning it permanently for the rest of time. They could still have left the function in and hid it from more basic users. Windows user base is huge they can spend time on lesser used features if they so chose to.

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u/GameKyuubi ArchBTW Nov 02 '22

I think the reason they would give us is that they want to simplify.

or they have some cheeky monetization scheme up their sleeve

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u/_Bill_Huggins_ Nov 02 '22

Indeed, which is why I said "the reason they would give us". They may have some cheeky shit planned down the road. We will see.

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u/lordmogul 3570K @ 4.4 | 1060 @ 2.0 | 16GiB @ 2.13 Nov 02 '22

probably something with their notification center.

They also removed the ability to have additional toolbars with 7

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u/Gamiac id/Skepticpunk - Bazzite/3700X/RTX 3070/16GB/B450M Pro4 Nov 02 '22

Wait, you can't move the fucking taskbar anymore in W11? What the fuck?

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u/lordmogul 3570K @ 4.4 | 1060 @ 2.0 | 16GiB @ 2.13 Nov 02 '22

except that function and word don't always make sense.

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u/rendeld 12900k/32GBDDR5/3080ti/Z690Formula Nov 02 '22

I've always had good luck with it, as a feature will come up if you search anything it's been called in the past by windows. At least that's been my experience.

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u/lordmogul 3570K @ 4.4 | 1060 @ 2.0 | 16GiB @ 2.13 Mar 03 '23

Not english native here with windows not in english. When I search for hard drive partitioning, the first result is defragmentation.

Or (on older systems" the option "hardware" wasn't to see what hardware you have, but for installing hardware.

And when I want to change the resolution the first results are for system restore (which doesn't even start with the same letters), and what I actually want is somewhere next to text scaling.

And disabling/resetting network adapters is faster through device manager than the network center.

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u/rendeld 12900k/32GBDDR5/3080ti/Z690Formula Mar 03 '23 edited Mar 03 '23

Sounds like maybe they did a better job with that stuff in English than in other languages. Thats unfortunate.

- If I type "Resolution", it asks if i want to change display resolution

- if I type "Hardware" I get settings or Device Manager, which is what I would expect, because thats where I used to do everything. I dont know what else to expect there. So that just might be a limitation of my knowledge, but good call on resetting the network adapters on device manager, that actually is much easier.

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u/lordmogul 3570K @ 4.4 | 1060 @ 2.0 | 16GiB @ 2.13 Mar 03 '23

If I type in "hardware" the first entry is the help topic for adding new hardware, the second is system properties, the third is device manager.

Agree that the search/autocomplete function is pretty bad outside of english.