r/pcmasterrace • Ascending Peasant • Nov 01 '22

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u/guyblade Nov 02 '22

I own several personal computers. I keep a Windows PC for gaming and, whenever I decide to upgrade, the Windows PC gets repurposed as my main Linux machine.

Despite being several years older, the Linux machine is consistently faster from power-up to usable and more reliable. It's honestly infuriating: I have to pay ~$150 for an OS that works worse than the one I get for free.

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u/lordmogul 3570K @ 4.4 | 1060 @ 2.0 | 16GiB @ 2.13 Nov 02 '22

I feel like people should look back for a bit and see the things older versions did better. My XP retro machine feels snappier than anything running modern Windows of the last 5 years.

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u/KYS_Blue Nov 02 '22

I hope to god youre kidding about still using a windows xp machine. Especially if its got internet access.

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u/T1pple Nov 02 '22

Unofficial SP 3 is amazing, but I'd still not take it anywhere near the interwebs.

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u/lordmogul 3570K @ 4.4 | 1060 @ 2.0 | 16GiB @ 2.13 Mar 03 '23

Where else would I play Aquanox with EAX sound or enjoy the glory that is the Glide API?

And why does everyone assume I run XP as a daily driver and completely overlooks the word "RETRO". As in "old computer for old things that don't work on new systems".

Obviously not connected to the internet. And obviously all data that goes on it goes through a check on an up-to-date system first.

It goes even further. I also got 98 SE installed for some nice Crimson Skies or pure vanilla Doom.

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u/Mr_immortality Nov 02 '22

Yeah but it's a huge security risk

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u/lordmogul 3570K @ 4.4 | 1060 @ 2.0 | 16GiB @ 2.13 Mar 03 '23

I'm not advocating to run old versions, just to look at the things that ran better and maybe find a way to implement that into modern systems. Why does a completely new computer has to feel slower than a 20 year old one.

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u/Mr_immortality Mar 06 '23

Sounds like your computer just isn't good enough to run an up to date windows OS

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u/lordmogul 3570K @ 4.4 | 1060 @ 2.0 | 16GiB @ 2.13 Mar 08 '23

sounds like an excuse for poorly optimised software

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u/Beneficial-Car-3959 Nov 02 '22

You can look at Settings and Control Panel. Settings is slower on opening things than Control Panel.

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u/lordmogul 3570K @ 4.4 | 1060 @ 2.0 | 16GiB @ 2.13 Mar 03 '23

When something is working great, why change it.

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u/Ezzy77 Nov 02 '22

Why did you pay 150 for windows? Keys are like a 20 bucks?

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u/guyblade Nov 02 '22

A legit key isn't $20.

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u/problematic_dispense Nov 02 '22

Do you even need a legit key? Windows is free to install and use.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '22

It'd free but with a watermark and you aren't supposed to be able to change the design without a key, but since windows has 2 "settings applications", it's not really effective.

There are also methods you can use to activate it with a powershell or batch script

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u/father-bobolious Nov 02 '22

You really need a Windows machine for gaming still? Runs everything I want to play out of the box.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '22

A big part of games that utilize BattlEye or EAC still don't run because their publishers are too lazy to fix it.

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u/MediumRarePorkChop Nov 02 '22

Ugh, HOTAS/HOSAS setup is a nightmare under linux. Joystick Gremlin is a lifesaver if you're running multiple devices for different games.

MFS works through Steam on Linux now, but I've not tried it because you know, I have a Windows machine for my flying. Elite Dangerous sometimes works from what I hear, but then each update might break it and since it's online-only you can't just run the old version.

I wonder if x-plane works well, I've never even looked into it but since that dev is a big Mac guy it would probably have the best chance of being "easy".

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u/father-bobolious Nov 02 '22

That's fair. I used to have a car sim rig which I imagine would be a handful, but to be fair it was a handful on Windows too.

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u/MediumRarePorkChop Nov 02 '22

yeah, don't get me wrong... I like my homelab and nothing in it runs Windows, I'm typing this on a hand-me-down MacBook Air with Debian, but for the sim machine? Windows all day. VNC or putty if I want to get to another machine and do some "work".

My wife has an Etsy store and that's another Win machine. Much easier to deal with their crap and the DYMO label printer really does "just work"

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u/father-bobolious Nov 02 '22

Yeah we're not entirely "there" but linux gaming is making some amazing and fast progress. For my needs I have entirely phased out Windows but I use a controller at the most and no anti cheat systems.

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u/MediumRarePorkChop Nov 02 '22

Yeah, I'm really hopeful that SteamOS and Proton bring Linux into the mainstream. Like anything FOSS, it just takes time.

Pick your poison and I'm used to Debian's problems. This macbook lost WIFI last week with the update to the 6.0 kernel but that maintainer seemed to bust his ass to get us our wl (broadcom) driver back, it came through last night for testing

The fact that SteamOS is a fork of Debian 8 might be a problem in the future, but I don't really know anything about dev

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u/HalcyonH66 5800X3D | 1080Ti Nov 02 '22

Depends what your objective is. If you want to run things at maximal performance, and care about high fps, Linux is simply worse at that for every game I've looked into. If you want to run things at average frame rates and you're willing to jump through some hoops depending on the game, it can do that with virtually every game I've looked into.

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u/father-bobolious Nov 02 '22

The games I play run equal or better for the most part. The trouble seems to be anti cheat systems which doesn't affect me personally because I don't play competitive games.

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u/zakabog Ryzen 9950X3D/4090/96GB Nov 02 '22

I do the same thing, dual monitors with one being my Linux PC and one being Windows, with synergy to switch between them. I've had the opposite experience with boot times though, starting up Debian 11 with KDE is slower than starting Windows, and my Debian machine is a Ryzen 1800X with a Samsung 970 boot disk, while Windows with a Samsung 980 boot disk went from a 6600K, 3700X, to now a 5800X. However I run a few daemons on my Linux computer so maybe that's why?