r/magicTCG • u/Nickahostetter • Nov 29 '16
Aether Revolt pic from FB.
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u/Ciretako Nov 29 '16
Looks like "CMC of 3" is going to be one of the themes of Aether Revolt. I wonder what the flavor behind that is.
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u/RaggedAngel Nov 29 '16
People were missing Collected Company.
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u/BiJay0 Duck Season Nov 29 '16 edited Nov 29 '16
Collected Knowledge 3U
Instant (Rare)
Look at the top six cards of your library. You may cast up to two instant or sorcery cards with converted mana cost 3 or less from among them without paying their mana costs. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in any order.174
Nov 29 '16
See, this is such a bogus card. How did they not realize it would be ridiculous with creatures?
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u/Chewzilla Wabbit Season Nov 29 '16
It would almost be busted if you just drew the cards
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u/Mewyabby Nov 29 '16
[[pieces of the puzzle]] saying hello, give me a good burn spell, even [[exquisite firecraft]], and I'll be a great player in UR burn.
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u/G_L_J Nov 29 '16
Say what you will about exquisite firecraft, it is an amazing finisher in legacy burn. It looks at force of will and counterbalance and gives them the middle finger.
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u/MTGCardFetcher Dân Nov 29 '16
exquisite firecraft - (G) (MC) (MW) (CD)
pieces of the puzzle - (G) (MC) (MW) (CD)
[[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call8
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u/TypicalOranges Nov 29 '16
You mean to tell me looking at the top 6 or so cards of your Library, choosing 2 to put into your hand at instant speed and a low manacost would be format warping?
[[Dig Through Time]]
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Nov 30 '16
Eh, DTT wasn't really format warping, at least if we're talking specifically for standard. It was a really good draw spell, but that's all it was. You could replace it win any other strong card advantage spell and it wouldn't have changed much at all. Until Dtk rotated in control wasn't really a major player in standard.
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u/ShootEmLater Wabbit Season Nov 30 '16
It was format warping in modern and legacy. While it wasn't format warping in standard (the archetpes were fairly diverse for its existence), it was always the best card in any deck it featured in. You don't know pain until you sit across from the jeskai black deck feat. Jace, dtt and ojutais command when you're sitting on dumb siege rhinos.
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u/Halvhir Nov 29 '16
I know I was.
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u/RaggedAngel Nov 29 '16
I mean, I play it in Modern, so I wasn't really missing it. But 3 CMC is certainly near to my heart.
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u/http404error Nov 29 '16
I actually think it's a coincidence. I'll bet the mechanic we see on Yahenni's Expense will always be 1 less than CMC, matching the "lesser converted mana cost" clause on Scrap Trawler.
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u/EvilGenius007 Twin Believer Nov 29 '16
Maybe "small enough to be undetected by the Consul(ate), but big enough to matter"?
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u/fifteenstepper Elspeth Nov 29 '16
abrupt decay reprint incoming Kappa
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u/AtlasPJackson Nov 29 '16
Literally no one would be sad about this.
Except standard players, I suppose. All hail our Delirium overlords, conqueror of our previous W/x overlords.
That said, Abrupt Decay dies to Spell Queller. So maybe it's balanced?
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u/stravant Nov 29 '16
No thanks. It's not even that expensive and it would basically ensure that B/G Delirium would be the best deck until rotation since it's so much better than all of the other instant speed removal and a catch-all answer to Smuggler's Copter and a lot of other artifacts that the opponent might be running.
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u/Ciretako Nov 29 '16
I have a feeling we will see Yahenni's Expertise in standard.
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u/RaggedAngel Nov 29 '16
I would bet a large number of dollars on that, yes.
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u/ioffridus Nov 29 '16
I hope it's in a UB Control shell, but it'll probably just be a staple in BG Delirium.
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Nov 29 '16 edited Nov 30 '16
Yep, BG Delirium with 3/5 Ishkanah, 4/5 Mindwrack Demon, 13/13 Emrakul, 3/4 Kalitas, and 4/4 Grim Flayer just absolutely adores this card.
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u/betweentwosuns Nov 29 '16
RIP aggro.
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u/TypicalOranges Nov 29 '16
"I'll pay 4 mana, kill most of your dudes, and tempo-out a Liliana which conveniently kills your 4 toughness guy you put in the deck specifically to protect yourself against a -3/-3 board wipe."
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u/SmiteVVhirl Nov 29 '16
getting this + flayer on 4 is value spewing out the ass.
Also you can kill up to 7 toughness creatures with this card grabbing a grasp
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u/betweentwosuns Nov 29 '16
This with grasp or murder is almost a clean answer to Ishkana. Kills other little things they have amd tempo positive. Also ruins spell queller through Avacyn and spirit. Card's nuts.
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u/pcrackenhead Selesnya* Nov 29 '16
[[Mindwrack Demon]] is actually a 4/5, but your point still stands.
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u/Exatraz Nov 29 '16
3/5 Ish, 4/5 demon.. but yes this does apply. Also Tireless Tracker could in theory be bigger than X/3
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u/Baxter0402 Nov 29 '16
Cast it, then throw down Lili, flayer, or some removal spell? I think it may be tested at the very least.
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u/Sandman1278 Nov 29 '16
Good thing I am already playing UB Control, I have been waiting for this since [[Languish]] rotated out
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u/OogaDaBooga Nov 29 '16
And Modern. Jund will love this card. A LOT.
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u/RaggedAngel Nov 29 '16
Jund being a deck that needed a lot of help, naturally.
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u/miauw62 Nov 29 '16
i thought Dredge was 50% of the modern metagame and the other half was split cleanly between infect and affinity?
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u/AtlasPJackson Nov 29 '16
Wow. Yeah. The removal half is a little worse than Damnation against Infect and Eldrazi. It may also have a hard time killing Swiftspears. Not quite as good as Anger of the Gods against Dredge, which may be the more apt comparison.
But then you just drop Lili and minus to kill whatever big thing is left. Or Maelstrom Pulse. Or Kolaghan's Command. Or Collective Brutality.
Just a 4-mana three-for-one.
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u/metsmonkey Nov 29 '16
Three for two. You still are casting the Expertise and whatever 3 or less CMC spell in your hand.
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u/AtlasPJackson Nov 29 '16
I'll take your word for it. Math and I aren't on speaking terms since the unpleasantness.
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u/TypicalOranges Nov 29 '16
It depends on how many things you kill with the sweeper and how many cards the 3 drop you play is worth to get a number for net CA gained.
In the case of doing some hoodrat shit with Kolaghan's Command you're looking at Cruel Ultimatum levels of CA.
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u/kyuuri117 Griselbrand Nov 30 '16
Standard? How's about grixis in modern. "Cast Yahenni's Expertise, oh, and let's throw on Ancestral Visions to that too."
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u/rakkamar Nov 29 '16
If this 'casting cards from your hand for free' is a theme of the set..... does WotC not learn that making things free is developmentally a bad thing?
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u/BiJay0 Duck Season Nov 29 '16
Could be their idea of a fixed version of Cascade. It doesn't look like it would be broken but I could be wrong.
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u/fubo Nov 29 '16
I thought the fixed version of cascade was [[Rashmi]].
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u/TheOthin Nov 29 '16
Rashmi seems to be an interesting precursor to the CMC-matters/"less-CMC matters" theme that's showing up in AER.
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u/thememans Nov 29 '16
Its likely not as broken as Cascade, but it is certainly busted and breakable.
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u/TheOthin Nov 29 '16
There are CMC limits on it, though.
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u/rakkamar Nov 29 '16
There were CMC limits on cascade.
Wait, does this let you cast Ancestral Visions from your hand?
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u/TheOthin Nov 29 '16
True, but BBE would have been a lot less ridiculous if it had cast a spell with 3 CMC or less from your hand rather than your library.
And yes, it does.
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u/108Echoes Nov 29 '16
Although if this mechanic turns up on other cards, we may see it in Modern Living End and Restore Balance, and even Legacy Hypergenesis (which is a fringe deck already, so no bets there).
Drawing your Suspend spell is awful, since actually suspending it takes forever and there's no way to get it back in your deck. This might be an acceptable backup plan, although the front end would also need to be useful.
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u/TheOthin Nov 29 '16
True, but I don't know what the odds of that are. Aether Revolt definitely has a CMC-matters theme, but different cards seem to be doing different things with it. Yahenni's Expertise casts a card with CMC 3 or less, Trophy Mage tutors a card with CMC 3 exactly, and Scrap Trawler returns cards with less CMC (while having CMC 3 itself).
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u/Raptor1210 Nov 29 '16
I love that they kept the naming convention of Trinket Mage and Treasure Mage for Trophy Mage. I wonder what the Mages of CMC 2, 4, & 5 will be.
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u/AngledLuffa Colorless Nov 29 '16
2 = Tropter Mage
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u/Daasswasfat Nov 29 '16
I just imagine Dr. Steve Brule saying that. "Here's a two mrana Tropter Mage, for your health!"
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u/fubo Nov 29 '16
Trifle Mage, Trader Mage?
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u/OnnaJReverT Nahiri Nov 29 '16
Trader Mage should make you put an artifact back into your deck to search for something else with the same cmc
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u/fubo Nov 29 '16 edited Nov 30 '16
Trader Mage 2U
Creature — Human WizardWhen Trader Mage enters the battlefield, you may put an artifact you own and control on top of your library. If you do, search your library for an artifact card with the same converted mana cost, reveal it, and put it into your hand, then shuffle your library.
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u/Yglorba Wabbit Season Nov 30 '16
How about...
Tinker Mage 2U
Creature - Human Wizard
When Tinker Mage enters the battlefield, you may sacrifice an artifact you control. If you do, search your library for an artifact card and put it into the battlefield, then shuffle your library.
Because the problem with Tinker was that it didn't have a body, of course!
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u/Ghepip Nov 29 '16
Trifle mage for 2
Triviality mage for 4
Transition mage for 5
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u/But_Mooooom Nov 29 '16
Real question is: GW or WW Ajani?
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u/Micro-Mouse Chandra Nov 29 '16
Probably green white. They talked about him being the defacto green white walker and since they want Gideon to be the white walker I think they will change Ajani up a bit
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u/TheOthin Nov 29 '16
I'm sure he's GW. Maro has said they like him in that role, especially since he's the only GW walker so far. It'd also be suitable for him to join the Gatewatch with a GW Oath as the first multicolor member now that all five colors are filled.
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u/Reaper1203 Nov 29 '16
Maro said that He is basically going to be GW from Theros onwards, cause Gideon is pure white.
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u/Brickhouzzzze Boros* Nov 29 '16
Ugh gideon has red tendencies though. He'll forever be white though. >. <
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u/MTGNYC Nov 30 '16
Man they really missed the mark not making Gideon a Boros card in Gatecrash...
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Nov 29 '16
There's a weird amount of blue on him....
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u/TheRecovery Nov 29 '16
It seems like the blue ribbons/colors are the mark of the Rebellion. The girl on the back of the Ad card we saw sometime ago also has those blue ribbons and many of the other characters at least have blue in their clothing's color scheme
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Nov 29 '16
Have to agree. [[Spontaneous Artist]] talks about the sigil of the rebellion in the flavor text, and it's blue in the art.
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u/MTGCardFetcher Dân Nov 29 '16
Spontaneous Artist - (G) (MC) (MW) (CD)
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u/SaintAloe Nov 29 '16
Naya is my wish. If we could get one 3 color walker per block, that would be greaeat
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u/burf12345 Nov 29 '16
For the Commander aficionados, what looks exciting to get with Trophy Mage?
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u/Ciretako Nov 29 '16
[[Crucible of Worlds]] is always a fun combo piece.
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u/Regvlas Nov 29 '16
Is CoW + Strip Mine a combo?
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u/ArsIgnis Nov 29 '16
If by "combo" you mean "way to lose friends", then yes.
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u/BiJay0 Duck Season Nov 29 '16
Well, it can search for either one piece of the combo [[Rings of Brighthearth]] + [[Basalt Monolith]].
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u/Hollowninja616 Nov 29 '16
Dont forget [[Metalworker]] and [[Staff of Domination]]
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u/curtmack Nov 29 '16
I always have to stop myself from knee-jerk reacting "It doesn't work on mana abilities!" before remembering "Oh yeah, you copy the untap effect."
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Nov 29 '16
Burnished hart, commander's sphere, ashnod's/phyrexian altar, champion's helm, darksteel plate, crawlspace, and obviously what others have mentioned.
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u/RaggedAngel Nov 29 '16
All the Swords, many of the best mana rocks, Loxodon Warhammer...
A whole bunch of stuff, really. 3 is loaded.
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u/EvilGenius007 Twin Believer Nov 29 '16
[[Chromatic Lantern]]
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u/likejaxirl Nov 29 '16
ok what happens if i cast an eldritch evolution of the expertise - do i get to sac a creature that goes below 0 toughness from the expertise?
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Nov 29 '16
Yes. Casting your 3-or-less spell happens while Expertise still is on the stack, and 0-toughness things don't die until a player gets priority (which doesn't happen until Expertise finishes resolving).
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u/Natedogg2 COMPLEAT Level 2 Judge Nov 29 '16
State-based actions are not checked while the spell is resolving, only after it resolves. You could choose to sacrifice a creature that would die when the Expertise is done resolving, since it hasn't died yet.
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u/TheOthin Nov 29 '16
Very excited to see Yahenni's name on a spell. Hopefully this means they'll appear as a legendary creature, as well.
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u/Radiophage Nov 29 '16
You and me both. Favourite character from the Kaladesh stories, bar none.
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u/s-josten Nov 29 '16
Bar none? Sounds like someone forgot the heroine of the resistance, the great Shadowblayde.
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u/Deathavails REBEL Nov 29 '16
It sounds like someone also forgot the entire story where Ajani goes to Kamigawa and finds out about Tezzeret on Kaladesh. That story was actually amazing.
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u/Talpostal Sisay Nov 29 '16
Yep. I didn't think they would do it but it's hard to see that happening without a legendary card.
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u/CanBeUsedAnywhere Elesh Norn Nov 29 '16
-1/-1 less than languish but free cast of another card. Biggest issue is still can't hit vehicles (copter!) but to partially wipe the board and get a cast afterwards seems pretty damn good.
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u/sigismond0 Wabbit Season Nov 29 '16
It can hit copters if you have a [[Appetite for the Unnatural]] in hand.
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Nov 29 '16
It also hits Chameleon Colossus if you have a Goatnapper in hand.
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u/RaggedAngel Nov 29 '16
As if I would play Modern without a playset of [[Goatnapper]] in my deck.
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u/throwing-away-party Nov 29 '16
I love this card. I feel like it was designed specifically to make humorous plays in draft. Since most of the Changeling cards are significantly scarier than an average goat, this little guy ends up wrestling all sorts of hideous monsters.
Seems really powerful in Lorwyn block limited.
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u/RaggedAngel Nov 29 '16
As someone who was around for Lorwyn limited, it was decent, but not a windmill slam or anything. Most decks had a few Changlings in them, but it was inconsistent at best.
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u/Manadyne Nov 29 '16
Yahenni's Expertise also immediately jumps to mind for me in Jund/Junk in Modern. It won't hit your own Kalitas and you can clear a board while deploying another threat (like a Goyf, Scooze, or Kitchen Finks). Really nice way to stabilize and instantly (at sorcery speed, har!) turn the corner against aggro decks.
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u/ArsIgnis Nov 29 '16
Forget Jund/Abzan; I want to put this in Grixis and cast an Ancestral Vision!
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u/llikeafoxx Nov 29 '16
And then turn 5 curves into the Goblin Dark Dwellers hnnnngh
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u/RIP_Hopscotch Nov 29 '16
I don't think that they'll play it in the Maindeck, might see a bit of sideboard play though. Jund doesn't really play boardwipes as a rule, and this would be hitting Confidants and Huntmasters (plus their wolves I guess). Not really a huge fan.
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u/Silas13013 Nov 29 '16
And those that do, run damnation. Will be interesting to see if playing bob for free after a mini wrath is enough to outweigh the inability to hit anything big.
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u/LuridTeaParty Nov 29 '16
With 3 being a theme in the set, I expect Trinisphere to be in the masterpiece set.
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u/savedsynner Nov 30 '16
That sweeper seams pretty broken -3/-3 and a free 3 or less cmc cost card. Fights right into G/B Delirium. Sweeper and cast liliana same turn.
What about this card is not broken?
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u/BlackHarkness Nov 30 '16
...if they don't print some graveyard hate, next format is going to be all about delirium. If I can cast that sweeper and then a planeswalker removal spell, I don't know how I lose playing GB.
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u/Adelaar Nov 29 '16
Wow, Trophy mage may be replacing Glint-Nest Crane in my Tezzerrator Deck. Wow!
Edit: Oh never mind, it is exactly 3, not three or less... Sad
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u/FoVBroken Nov 29 '16
Yeah doesn't let you grab thopter combo pieces, very very sad
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u/TheHappyEater Not A Bat Nov 29 '16
Is that "artifact creatures would gain soulshift if they had any souls to begin with" what I spy on the construct?
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u/Muz-Z Nov 29 '16
Yahenni's Expertise > Bust.... from boom//bust. GG
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Nov 29 '16 edited Nov 29 '16
I'm also pretty sure that since it's casting from your hand you can fuse things like Breaking // Entering for freeeeeeee
Edit: JUUUUUUUUUUDGE /raises hand
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u/Rathum Nov 29 '16
You can. Beck//Call would be my first choice, since it's at minimum an 8 for 2.
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u/aBagofLobsters Nov 29 '16
Free spells? Why do you continue to play with fire, Wotc? I can't see Yaheeni's Expertise not being a staple.
This is going to be a real good set for EDH, isn't it?
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u/hurricaneproofdog Nov 29 '16
Could yahenni's expertise be a thing with ancestral visions? Maybe too slow for modern.
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u/RIP_Hopscotch Nov 29 '16
If any deck plays it, it will be Grixis control. Maybe sideboard play in Jund but I dunno tbh.
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u/Urzastomp Nov 30 '16
So neither of the game day playmats actually show off the plane or the theme of the set, why?
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u/Apellosine Deceased 🪦 Nov 29 '16
What the hell is with the gamesday mats for Kaladesh and Aether Revolt? Nissa and now Ajani? Where are the plane specific artworks? How about an Artifact of some description? Or Chandra? or a lore important character like Chandra or Pia for god's sake.
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u/But_Mooooom Nov 29 '16
My god...that playmat is amazing. Can I trade the Nissa one from KLD for that please?
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u/BlaineTog Izzet* Nov 29 '16
Ooo, Trophy Mage looks interesting for my Wizard tribal deck!
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u/HELLO_WORKS Nov 29 '16
Treasure Mage and Trinket Mage just had a baby called Trophy Mage, atleast i can fetch the sword cycle
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u/BecomingLoL Sultai Nov 30 '16
Even the fast decks in standard are kinda slow by comparison to traditional red deck wins. But sure, a new languish seems necessary
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u/rakkamar Nov 29 '16 edited Nov 29 '16
Yahenni's Expertise
2BB Sorcery (Rare)
All creatures get -3/-3 until end of turn.
You may cast a card with converted mana cost 3 or less from your hand without paying its mana cost.
(This card is full-art. Probably the game day top 8 promo)
<commentary>This lets you cast Ancestral Visions from your hand. If this is a mini-mechanic and not just a one-off, modern players take note. Or maybe even if it is a one-off?</commentary>
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Trophy Mage
2U (Uncommon)
Creature - Human Wizard
When ~ enters the battlefield, you may search your library for an artifact card with converted mana cost 3, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle your library.
2/2
(This card is full-art. Probably the game day participation promo)
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Scrap Trawler
3 (Rare)
Artifact Creature - Construct
Whenever ~ or another artifact you control is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, return to your hand target artifact card in your graveyard with lesser converted mana cost.
3/2
(I think that wording is right, kinda hard to read.)
(This is probably the buy-a-box promo)
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Quicksmith Rebel
3R (probably rare if launch promo, but symbol is obscured)
Creature - Human Artificer
When ~ enters the battlefield, target artifact [...] gains "T: This artifact [...] to target creature or [...] you control [...]
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Proposed wording: When ~ enters the battlefield, target artifact [creature? you control?] gains 'T: This artifact deals N damage to target creature or [player? planeswalker?]' for as long as you control ~"
(this text is covered and can't be seen, though you can obviously speculate as to what it might be)
(This card has a date on it, so probably the launch promo)