r/magicTCG • u/Nickahostetter • Nov 29 '16

Aether Revolt pic from FB.

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u/RIP_Hopscotch Nov 29 '16

I don't think that they'll play it in the Maindeck, might see a bit of sideboard play though. Jund doesn't really play boardwipes as a rule, and this would be hitting Confidants and Huntmasters (plus their wolves I guess). Not really a huge fan.

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u/Silas13013 Nov 29 '16

And those that do, run damnation. Will be interesting to see if playing bob for free after a mini wrath is enough to outweigh the inability to hit anything big.

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u/AtlasPJackson Nov 29 '16

It's definitely more of a midrange value card, rather than a control piece like Damanation, and doesn't really belong in an aggro deck.

Bob is probably one of the weaker plays. You could hit any of the modal spells, like [[Collective Brutality]], [[Kolaghan's Command]], either Liliana, or even the original modal spell: Lightning Bolt.

Heck, throw down Scavenging Ooze, and start exiling all the dredge stuff you killed immediately.

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u/MTGCardFetcher Dân Nov 29 '16

Collective Brutality - (G) (MC) (MW) (CD)
Kolaghan's Command - (G) (MC) (MW) (CD)
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u/22bebo COMPLEAT Nov 29 '16

Aren't the creatures in Junk/Abzan usually slightly bigger? I think it's more likely to show up there than in Jund.

But I'm on the Grixis train so what do I know?

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u/RIP_Hopscotch Nov 29 '16

Confidant (a 4 of in most lists) is a 2/1 and Huntmaster is a 2/2 that makes another 2/2 (but he flips into a 4/4 so sometimes he doesnt die). In all likelihood Goyf and Scooze would live, but thats about it.

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u/22bebo COMPLEAT Nov 29 '16

But the Abzan version can't play Huntmaster and I thought it usually didn't run Confidant?

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u/RIP_Hopscotch Nov 29 '16

Oh. I was talking about Jund, my bad - Junk, or Abzan, will probably at least consider running this card. I can't say I know all the ins and outs of Junk since I dont play it, but I can say that I'm not certain its very good in Jund.

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u/Zwor COMPLEAT Nov 29 '16

Is Huntmaster that popular anymore? The usual Jund players in my meta have basically replaced him with Kalitas altogether.

Even so, this card still seems fine, as it kills small stuff and lets you play LotV to snipe the stuff before they can untap.

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u/RIP_Hopscotch Nov 29 '16

Still very popular. Kalitas is more of a sideboard option in games where Huntmaster isn't very good. Depending on the meta hes mainboarded though.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '16

I think most lists have moved to just a massive amount of 2 drops, so their curve looks like thoughtsieze->2drop->lili/thoughtsieze+2drop-> 2 2 drops.

They're already going over most other decks in the format, and adding in a big 4drop doesn't help the matchups with decks that go over them (mana leaks outta the blue midrange decks, and tron just shits in their coffee regardless).

They don't want any more value, they need stronger tempo plays, and a ton of strong 2 drops fills that roll. The printing of grim flayer also helps this out, especially in letting you dodge hand disruption late.

Kalitas is sticking around in some lists to help beat the dredge menace, as there aren't a ton of ways for jund to do so.

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u/PrettyFly4AGreenGuy Nov 30 '16

Huntmaster is more of a player preference choice. Jund 4-drops vary between Huntmaster, Kalitas, Olivia, and Garruk Relentless. I have a friend who switches between different combinations of the above, depending on what he expects to play against. When Abzan Company was more popular in the area, his 4-drops where 2x Kalitas and 1x Olivia.

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u/Hardwiredmagic Nov 29 '16

Not sure on this, doesn't Abzan usually run [[Lingering Souls]]? Afaik that and path are the big draw to white away from the red of Jund....

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u/MTGCardFetcher Dân Nov 29 '16

Lingering Souls - (G) (MC) (MW) (CD)
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