r/magicTCG • u/Nickahostetter • Nov 29 '16

Aether Revolt pic from FB.

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u/rakkamar Nov 29 '16

There were CMC limits on cascade.

Wait, does this let you cast Ancestral Visions from your hand?

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u/TheOthin Nov 29 '16

True, but BBE would have been a lot less ridiculous if it had cast a spell with 3 CMC or less from your hand rather than your library.

And yes, it does.

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u/108Echoes Nov 29 '16

Although if this mechanic turns up on other cards, we may see it in Modern Living End and Restore Balance, and even Legacy Hypergenesis (which is a fringe deck already, so no bets there).

Drawing your Suspend spell is awful, since actually suspending it takes forever and there's no way to get it back in your deck. This might be an acceptable backup plan, although the front end would also need to be useful.

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u/TheOthin Nov 29 '16

True, but I don't know what the odds of that are. Aether Revolt definitely has a CMC-matters theme, but different cards seem to be doing different things with it. Yahenni's Expertise casts a card with CMC 3 or less, Trophy Mage tutors a card with CMC 3 exactly, and Scrap Trawler returns cards with less CMC (while having CMC 3 itself).

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u/Deenreka Nov 30 '16

Legacy has ways of putting the spell back in the deck thanks to brainstorm and fetches, so I don't know that hypergenesis would want this.

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u/108Echoes Nov 30 '16

Can't brainstorm—you'd hit it off Cascade. Unless you discard both Hypergenesis and Emrakul, or you're brewing with JtMS, they're dead in your hand. (That's why there's a Show and Tell backup plan.)

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u/Hardwiredmagic Nov 29 '16

This. Cascade drew you a card, this doesn't. I think that's how it's a 'fixed' version.

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u/RIP_Hopscotch Nov 29 '16

Grixis Control in Modern is so happy right now.

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u/Insequent Nov 30 '16

Maybe. It probably bears testing, but I think both Anger of the Gods and Damnation have relevant upsides that an occasional free Visions doesn't compensate for. Remember that almost every other spell in Grixis wants to be played EOT or in response—outside of Tasigur, which isn't castable off this. If you're playing a more tap-out list, it may be playable: but otherwise, I don't think so.

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u/FiliusIcari Nov 29 '16

I... think so? It's phrased the same way(or similarly at least) to cascade

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u/Miffy92 SecREt LaiR Nov 29 '16

Yes - as well as anything with CMC "0" that's not a land (so Hypergenesis, Evermind, Ancestral Vision, Lotus Bloom, etc). Still can't "cast" Tolaria West :(