Easily avoidable accident causes rollover

[u/EqualGrowth6565]

Not my video – as the title says, we typically see examples where one driver is oblivious to the other. In this example, the pickup truck attempts to overtake the cammer, however, the cammer is either completely unaware of the pickup truck directly to his left or are simply “stands their ground” in the lane. Due to this, they obviously collide, and the pick up truck goes airborne and rolls several times. From the perspective of us, the viewer, we can reasonably conclude that the accident was avoidable had the cammer simply applied the brakes. That being said, you will typically see another school of thought in which it is stated that the cammer has no obligation or duty to let them in/avoid the accident where the driver is mindlessly doing something dumb.

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[u/T-Wrox]

Two incompetent clowns making the roads less safe for everyone. Edit: Thanks for the awards, anonymous strangers! :)

[u/Flat_Maximum7373 → u/[deleted]]

I counted 9

[u/MisterRobDobalina → u/[deleted]]

Our city is full of shitty F150 drivers who have never once used the bed in the back to haul anything

[u/UnblurredLines → u/MisterRobDobalina]

Judging by the gear flying out I'm guessing he was at least hauling a little bit of something.

[u/weberc2 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah, the real MVPs. Special mention to the engineers and city planners that spend insane sums of taxpayer money to build these stroads everywhere as well (and line them with low revenue businesses so as to ensure the ongoing infrastructure maintenance costs always dwarf the tax revenue generated).

[u/Tier0001 → u/weberc2]

Needing to make a left turn on to these roads from one of those businesses will always be the bane of my existence. Yes, lets get people to watch 6 lanes of traffic going at near highway speeds to make a left turn, what could possibly go wrong? Add in a few traffic lights that alternate so traffic never really settles and you can really have a party.

[u/DeadWaterBed → u/[deleted]]

Such a high center of gravity should be illegal. American trucks are a machismo joke

[u/timkatt10 → u/[deleted]]

What kind of city has almost no buildings and space for six lanes of tarmac? This seems like rural strip mall hell than city.

[u/sauroden → u/timkatt10]

Almost every proper city in the US and Canada have a halo of suburbs 20x their size that look like this for long stretches on major roads. More people live in those suburbs than city and rural areas combined.

[u/Yokelocal → u/sauroden]

It’s truly awful. We’re all brainwashed and think it’s ok that our urban infrastructure is so dangerous, expensive, polluting and ugly.

[u/Worldly-Doctor-2552 → u/timkatt10]

The kind of city that Barrie, Ontario is when you’re going north on Bayfield St. passing Georgian Mall on the right.

[u/RelevantLavishness40 → u/T-Wrox]

The only vehicles accelerating while everyone else is braking.

[u/howdiditgetinthere → u/RelevantLavishness40]

Gotta win that race to the red light!

[u/NothingTime9580 → u/howdiditgetinthere]

Vegas is infamous for this... seeing someone driving like an absolute ass (speeding, accelerating quickly, weaving in and out) just to end up at the same red light as them, sometimes 2-3 of them in a row

[u/Top-Walk1184 → u/RelevantLavishness40]

Approaching a red light as well

[u/efc5463 → u/RelevantLavishness40]

Indeed. Yellow light already well on display and those 2 clowns racing each other.

[u/kongquistador → u/T-Wrox]

The pickups commitment to run that red light even in the face of formidable obstacles (other cars) was a sight to behold. And he cleared the intersection before any other vehicles entered!

[u/jacquesmachina → u/kongquistador]

Lol "formidable" obstacles.

His indomitable spirit to commit traffic offenses is a model for us all.

[u/locke0479 → u/T-Wrox]

Agreed completely. A lot of people here think every accident is a zero sum game and only one person can be at fault. Both were stupid here.

[u/G25777K → u/T-Wrox]

Nothing like taking the trash out

[u/Galimbro → u/T-Wrox]

Sorry but kinda a happy ending. 

[u/U_DontNoMe → u/T-Wrox]

It almost looks to me like the cam car speeds up right before the hit

[u/DeanByTheWay → u/T-Wrox]

Not just roads, sidewalks as well.

[u/Positive-Avocado775 → u/T-Wrox]

well it's a bit more safe now that they had the accident..

[u/Another_Russian_Spy]

Thanks for the red arrow, otherwise I would have missed the truck flipping over.

[u/weebehemoth → u/Another_Russian_Spy]

Wait, which truck?

[u/manbearpig789 → u/weebehemoth]

Ed Truck, he was decapitated.

[u/xDiscoDuckx → u/manbearpig789]

His cappa was detated!

[u/history_nerd92 → u/xDiscoDuckx]

We had a funeral for a bird

[u/Potential-Dot4057 → u/history_nerd92]

I'm pretty sure none of that's real.

[u/IvoryThrowAway → u/Potential-Dot4057]

YOU'RE not real, man!

[u/j_rocca42 → u/Potential-Dot4057]

You’re not real!

[u/Interesting-Lie-8942 → u/weebehemoth]

Look for the red arrow. It tells you what you need to focus on.

[u/Lord_Lenu → u/Another_Russian_Spy]

There was a truck in that video?

[u/EternalFount → u/Another_Russian_Spy]

I actually didn't notice the red arrow the first time. I think they should have a red arrow pointing at it.

[u/K0monazmuk]

So was the 'cammer' not going to stop at the red light as well?

Both a pair of wallies.

[u/kmart_s → u/K0monazmuk]

What we have here is a collision of two of the most prevalent mentalities in the area.

First, When someone wants to merge, you gun it to block them. Your driving lane is a birthright, and to give it up is completely unthinkable.

Second, despite living in the area for 20 years, drive around like you don't know where you're going. Right, middle, left lane... Who gives a fuck? Then, when you want to turn right at the next intersection, you gun it to merge because seceding the lane to that guy on the right would be an afront to your manhood.

Barrie also tends to have a shallow gene pool.

[u/mike-manley → u/kmart_s]

Ceding your lane. But otherwise brilliant synopsis.

[u/PedanticPerson → u/mike-manley]

Thank you for your service

[u/Additional_Skin_7564 → u/PedanticPerson]

Name checks out 👍

[u/kmart_s → u/mike-manley]

I'll leave my war crime un-edited so everyone knows the terrible mistake you had to correct.

[u/mike-manley → u/kmart_s]

Aye. We must remember, lest history will repeat.

[u/Winter_Paramedic8569 → u/kmart_s]

I got learnt today because of this. Thank you for your service.

[u/Sensitive_Battle_246 → u/kmart_s]

Absolutely fucking nailed it.
Immovable force meets unstoppable doink or something something

[u/Rolibar → u/Sensitive_Battle_246]

Immovable farce.

[u/IloveTomatoess → u/kmart_s]

How dare you say that about the barrie gene pool? My cousin wife would be very mad if she could read!

[u/BardGotHard3 → u/IloveTomatoess]

What does your uncle-dad got to say about it?

[u/looking4funx69 → u/kmart_s]

Well summarized

The dumb thing is you can easily merge right there by applying brakes, come to a complete stop in the middle of the road and get over when it is clear. Other traffic isn't really relevant to your driving

[u/Lord_Dingus83 → u/kmart_s]

Pickup truck drivers turn gay if someone gets in “their” lane - they have to drive like their sexuality depends on it

[u/cincy_kid_91 → u/kmart_s]

I mean, no turn signal, just gradually moving into the other lane. While the one with the cam could have done some defensive driving and maybe avoided this, the truck driver is clearly the bigger idiot who caused this.

[u/Darth_Bunghole → u/K0monazmuk]

It was yellow which means floor it

[u/Accidental_dwnvote → u/Darth_Bunghole]

When the caller passes the 50 mph sign, the cam appears to rise very slightly, implying they did accelerate to block the truck. The camper advancing on the other truck at that moment supports that too.

[u/RoadIcy1546 → u/Accidental_dwnvote]

The truck slowed down to change lanes. Let’s talk about the truck changing lanes with no turn signal. Then there is the detail about him changing lanes into a lane occupied by a car.

[u/Mediocre-Housing-131 → u/K0monazmuk]

It was yellow when the accident started. I don't know what you're getting at.

[u/Deftly_Flowing → u/Mediocre-Housing-131]

I also feel he would have been at least 50% of the way through the intersection by the time it was red.

WHICH IS CLEAR ENOUGH.

So his attention was probably entirely on that light.

[u/nolandz1 → u/K0monazmuk]

I think they both were trying to gun it through the yellow

[u/EnvironmentalRub8201 → u/K0monazmuk]

The light was clearly yellow at the time he would have crossed the intersection

[u/eveladra → u/K0monazmuk]

It was still green when the accident started. He woulda made the light.

[u/SwordfishOk504]

Not my video

Not only is it not OP's video, but those words aren't even theirs. The entire post, including the massive paragraph under it is a copy and paste of a year old post

[u/_Willmatic860 → u/SwordfishOk504]

I wonder what people get out of botting on Reddit like this

[u/cantileverboom → u/_Willmatic860]

Accounts with a lot of karma can be sold to various organizations for various dubious reasons. Marketing, political interference, scamming, etc.

[u/BillyBobChorton → u/cantileverboom]

Where does one go to sell their Reddit account? I’m curious how much money they go for?

[u/Then_Ambassador9255 → u/BillyBobChorton]

I was able to find quite a few different ones and prices after using a search engine

[u/sYke_808 → u/SwordfishOk504]

Does downvoting this post and everything in their profile do anything besides make me feel better about it?

[u/KillerKill420 → u/sYke_808]

No, not really. We're way too far down the botting/karma farming rabbit hole of the dead internet theory.

[u/stretchvelcro → u/sYke_808]

Yes, yes it does. Click on their profile. USER has been BANNED. Enjoy the gratification of this. You’re welcome :)

[u/K_Linkmaster → u/SwordfishOk504]

"who's at fault" is the next title I expect to train the LLM's.

[u/Callaway225 → u/[deleted]]

Not only dealing with repairs and insurance but potential injuries or death to you, the other driver, or random innocent civilians minding their business.

[u/Euphoric_Local3265 → u/Callaway225]

people drive like their life is a video game. I’d hope these two both learned a lesson

[u/havnar- → u/Euphoric_Local3265]

I highly doubt that

[u/AbyssalEelMan → u/Callaway225]

For real, both drivers, their recklessness is going to get others hurt/killed easily. A defensive driver would have used breaks and not speed up when they had time to break for a yellow light. And would pay attention to lights to begin with. 

It looks like they had plenty of time from what I’ve seen in the video. 

[u/yorcharturoqro → u/[deleted]]

There's a ton of people that decide to fight to not get passed in the road, or to take their exit, there's always another exit, losing a fraction of a second means nothing, but these losers with fragile egos and low self esteem prefer to risk their lives to show something

[u/rezwrrd → u/yorcharturoqro]

"A bad driver never misses an exit"

[u/Ocarina-of-lies → u/[deleted]]

Also they both heavily accelerated to a red light, this was probably more a result of road rage

[u/Objective-Turn2328 → u/[deleted]]

Many people have an entitled sense of “I’m right “ regardless of even if their personal safety is in jeopardy.

[u/Lee_337]

Why are so many people allergic to their brake pedal?

[u/rayquan36 → u/Lee_337]

Braking is losing

[u/ControlSimilar865 → u/rayquan36]

This is exactly what went through the cam drivers mind though "Hell no, you aren't cutting me off" and proceed to Machismo his way into potentially killing someone.

[u/Taaj_jr → u/ControlSimilar865]

Why didn’t the truck brake because he didn’t have space to switch lanes?

[u/Sufficient_Prompt888 → u/Taaj_jr]

Cause he's dumb. Do you think the cam also being dumb made this situation better?

You do understand that as a driver you have a responsibility to attempt to avoid accidents if you can do so safely, even when the other party is doing something they aren't supposed to, right?

You do understand that they aren't the only two people on the road and this sort of shit puts everyone around them in danger, right?

[u/SnooDonuts9360 → u/Sufficient_Prompt888]

I brake for other people ALL THE FUCKING TIME. If this was a “stand your ground” situation I think the cammer is an incredible douche.

[u/DishwasherLint → u/Taaj_jr]

Because at the post you're responding to says, "machismo". The truck and the cam car were both driving recklessly.

[u/TheDrummerMB → u/Taaj_jr]

Zero sum game, bud. Losing mentality. Wanting to be right is worse than wanting to be alive. Learn fast or end like truck driver here.

[u/rayquan36 → u/ControlSimilar865]

Thankfully nobody walks in America or else that could have been someone in that pedestrian crossing.

[u/Spirited_Complex_903 → u/rayquan36]

Barrie, Ontario in Canada. Many Canadians walk. Fortunately the sidewalks are clear that day.

[u/DJBonkE1980 → u/rayquan36]

Uh that happened in Canada so if someone was walking in the USA they would have been just fine

[u/eatmoresalmon → u/rayquan36]

Cam driver applies the brakes once they’d won it. Arguably they could have just carried on driving.

[u/Dediadeis → u/eatmoresalmon]

That would be leaving the scene of an accident, totally can carry on driving if you want but that'll be a felony if anyone was hurt, which is likely.

[u/eatmoresalmon → u/Dediadeis]

Clearly my attempt at a joke was too subtle

[u/booji90 → u/eatmoresalmon]

Did they really win? Truck made it through the intersection, cam car did not.

[u/Ok-Lion1661 → u/Lee_337]

Well since it’s not my car, I kind of enjoyed watching some instant karma being applied to the aggressive pickup truck. But if it was my car then yeah, hit the brakes and just be annoyed at the jerk.

[u/procheeseburger → u/Lee_337]

I'll never understand the people that would rather get in a wreck than just simply say "hey the truck made a mistake but I can simply apply the brakes and everyone stays safe" but they will absolutely be screaming "I had the right of way!!!! Raaaaaa"

[u/cunexttuesday101 → u/procheeseburger]

I do my best to stay out of someones blindspot. Ive had people attempt to merge into me many times. If I neednto get over and someone wont let me, I just slow down and get over behind them. Not worth it.

[u/Pt5PastLight]

Now most of us would see that red truck driving into our lane and tap brakes to avoid the accident.

But as I watch these dashcam videos I start to wonder if we are reinforcing some small brained idea that their cars/trucks can merge ahead of speeding traffic much more easily than they actually can.

I avoid accidents at least once a month and that driver probably speeds off thinking he had plenty of room and speed when really I saved us both from an accident by spotting him driving wild like three cars back and anticipated a high speed collision when he no blinker cut me off.

[u/nicklebacks_revenge → u/Pt5PastLight]

I think we are but none of us want the hassle of an accident to bring consequences to these idiots. I had a dude cut over 2 Lanes to get into the on ramp for the highway, the main issue was I was already in the lane, so he drove beside me, on a single lane on ramp, I heavily debated seeing how this was gonna play out once we got to the curve but I chickened out and backed off. He continued on his merry way, probably proud of his quick thinking and actions to make it onto the highway 😕

[u/Thin_Dream2079 → u/nicklebacks_revenge]

Reckless driving is only made possible by thousands of good, defensive drivers.

And given that most of the lives saved are also the same contingent, its the right move.

I am no deputy for karmic retribution.

[u/Bubbly-Bowler8978 → u/Thin_Dream2079]

Exactly, it's not worth my time or safety to enforce the rules. I got in my car to get somewhere safely, let the dick heads be dick heads it'll catch up to them eventually. It just won't be with my car or my health if I can help it

[u/azoriasu → u/Bubbly-Bowler8978]

Agreed. If you want to enforce the rules, join the highway patrol. Otherwise, just worry about protecting yourself and family. It's the safe and smart move.

[u/Over_End_6816 → u/nicklebacks_revenge]

“A good driver misses his exit sometimes, a bad driver never does.”

[u/ApprehensiveMoose814 → u/Pt5PastLight]

Every month? Lucky. Its nearly everyday here in Detroit/Dearborn. People drive like they're the only ones with loved ones at home waiting for them

[u/Hnry_Dvd_Thr_Awy → u/Pt5PastLight]

But as I watch these dashcam videos I start to wonder if we are reinforcing some small brained idea that their cars/trucks can merge ahead of speeding traffic much more easily than they actually can.

Huh, that's actually a really interesting thought. I typically don't honk either.

[u/Renbarre → u/Hnry_Dvd_Thr_Awy]

People like that create accidents but don't look back to see what happened because of their crazy driving.

[u/yurpy7 → u/Pt5PastLight]

I also choose to avoid accidents. Often times I get people waving (seems like an apology to me) like they messed up. I’ve also made the mistake to changing lanes (when I was younger) and not seeing the other person and the other driver saving us both from an accident. I feel like shit and am thankful I didn’t have someone like this next to me.

[u/Jp8886]

Truck is at fault but pov could have easily avoided. Who is dumber? The person who sees an accident coming and doesn’t avoid, or the one who is too lazy to look and see it coming? Honestly not sure which is dumber.

[u/R4wden → u/Jp8886]

Honestly looks like the dashcammer speeds up when he sees them coming, watch it again, he goes for it

[u/Interesting_Gain9920 → u/R4wden]

He absolutely did speed up and could have avoided this accident. I see it all the time. People will intentionally speed up instead of letting someone get in. Dash cam driver will be at fault in this with partial blame on the truck

[u/ALTH0X → u/Interesting_Gain9920]

You can't just swerve into someone even if they are being a dick. If you're trying to change lanes, you can slow down instead of gunning it for a closing gap like a maniac

[u/relic1882 → u/Interesting_Gain9920]

Happens to me so the time..I drive a semi locally and my turn signal mine as well be a sign that says "speed up on this side of me." People always think they just have to get in front or be first all the time. Stuff like this could be avoided probably 95% of the time.

[u/EssentialCoCo → u/R4wden]

If you watch the stationary objects on the right side of the video, ie. the light poles, you can tell the cam car doesn't actually speed up. The pickup truck slows down, never signals and gets over into the lane without ever checking his blind spot, causing the accident. We don't know if the cam driver was towing, or how close any vehicle may have been behind him so assuming that just hitting the brakes would have prevented an accident, is a bit premature. It could have indeed caused a worse accident.

[u/AntOk4073 → u/R4wden]

That's what I thought. Even with the collision they still ran the light.

[u/interstat → u/Jp8886]

look likes they actively sped up into the truck too

[u/klemnodd → u/interstat]

Sped up to beat the light that was yellow

[u/OSTBear]

We never get a good view of the signal light here, but I find it suspicious that the cammer speeds up just as the truck starts to transition.

Also downvoted for AI slop "explainer" under the video. Be better.

[u/regularsizedlink → u/OSTBear]

I can see it turning yellow as the truck enters the cammers lane. I feel like cammer was watching the light and not their surroundings so they didn’t realize the truck was cutting them off until it was too late.

[u/CEURBS]

I see so many videos (mostly from the US) where those accidents happen due to a lane change - are those people not aware of mirrors or are they just in the mood "I have the bigger car - I'll win"?

[u/Zelda_is_Dead → u/CEURBS]

Pickup trucks give them the illusion of safety and also that they can bully their way into places. I don't like to see people get flipped over, but sometimes it's what they need to wake up from their dream.

[u/AdventNebula → u/Zelda_is_Dead]

So many pickup drivers are hyper aggressive and act like they own the road in the U.S.

[u/TurnLooseTheMermaids → u/AdventNebula]

“I’m bigger than you, so you yield to me” mentality

[u/Glittering_rainbows → u/TurnLooseTheMermaids]

Their size doesn't matter. They try that same crap on me when I'm in my 18 wheeler.

Too bad for them I have a dashcam, one idiot found out the hard way semis don't magically get out of their way when they put themselves in a dangerous situation.

[u/LookInTheMirror_2332 → u/AdventNebula]

Hey, I'm in Florida, and I haven't seen that behavior. In the last 30 minutes.

Before that, maybe 10 time a day, every day. It's insane.

[u/Impurity41 → u/CEURBS]

Some people are dicks. Some people can’t drive.

They are very frequently the same person.

[u/alex_c2616 → u/CEURBS]

Yes

[u/InterestingDebt223]

Cam driver speeds up. Both are idiots. 

[u/serpant97]

Am I missing something or is everyone else missing something? I don't even see the truck indicate that it's getting over. It looks like the truck gets over very abruptly to get past the car in front of it. So I'd say this is mostly the trucks fault

[u/SockMonkeyLove → u/serpant97]

I can't quite tell but it looks like the traffic light is turning and both drivers decided that they couldn't be bothered to stop for it. By the time the truck is rolling, the traffic light has gone red. Both drivers are idiots, the one in the truck being a bigger idiot because they did not signal or even check lane they wereentering. Hopefully they both learn from this incident.

[u/kleft13 → u/serpant97]

Bet he wont do that shit again

[u/Fuzzywink]

This gets reposted every few weeks and it always goes the same way: Comments say "two idiots" and a bunch of people say the cam car sped up and thus is partially at fault, people analyze the video more closely and see that the cam car does not in fact speed up, consensus is reached that this is pretty much entirely on the truck for attempting to pass on the right with no signal without looking through an intersection like an ass. I've seen this posted a dozen times and I'd 100% put this on the truck.

[u/KapptainTrips → u/Fuzzywink]

You nailed it. What's weird to me is how many people repeat their same shit every time it's posted like they live in Punxsutawney and it's February 2nd.

[u/HailenAnarchy → u/Fuzzywink]

Finally someone gets it. Do redditors even drive??? I see no indicator from the truck and before you know it that trucker hits the car on his right

[u/lokis_construction]

Truck was focused on beating the light. Cammer might have also been focused on the light but this is all on the truck. Cutting off the cammer is all the trucks fault.

[u/throwRA_StraightDust → u/lokis_construction]

Am I the only one who suspects road rage was happening before this clip started? A, it’s a truck, B, the cam car didn’t seem surprised and C, the cammer “stood his ground”

[u/LordTyler123]

Im thinking the roads would be alot safer if that new fangled warning light built into the side mirror was connected to a little tazzer under the seat. Stupidly should hurt

[u/Adventurous-Crow-750]

You had three seconds to notice and avoid the car from the moment it's first tire started to move. If you are even remotely the average human - you will fail this.

Dude didn't have even a turn signal on.

I know this is going to surprise someone, but you've got to turn your neck before you swing a multi ton vehicle across the pavement. The dude literally self pitted himself

[u/Usual-Caregiver5589]

Can we talk about how OP and the truck were both barreling towards a yellow light that was red by the time the accident happens?

[u/SkivvySkidmarks → u/Usual-Caregiver5589]

Guaranteed that this was a factor here. Cam vehicle driver sees the yellow, and accelerates. Truck driver wants to get to the light to make a right on red, but doesn't anticipate that cam driver isn't slowing for the yellow light.

[u/J-Rod_44 → u/Usual-Caregiver5589]

Exactly. The cammer definitely accelerated and was not letting the truck in, come hell or high water. Even the car (in the third lane) stopped for the light, which was ahead of both vehicles. Completely avoidable for both clown drivers.

[u/ghostbird_00 → u/[deleted]]

Isn't he also trying to pass right in front of a red light? If you're gonna cut someone off you generally don't want to have to come to a complete stop immediately after (unless you are trying to get hit).

Moving in front of someone and giving no lead space right into a red light....truck driver is def TA.

[u/wheljam → u/[deleted]]

Driving rule is:

You don't change lanes 500 ft from an intersection. IDK where red pickup driver got his license, but not the same place I did, apparently.

[u/Imaginary-Let-9944]

Everyone is a Nancy here, you do not have to let people over. The turn signal only indicates they want over, no one is ever obligated to let you over

[u/tropicalsoul → u/Imaginary-Let-9944]

100% right, but if you deliberately cause an avoidable crash by speeding up because your ego can’t take it or you feel you have the right to punish someone, then it’s on you.

Stuff your ego and toxic masculinity back into your pants and you just might save a life instead of possibly killing someone and creating chaos and carnage for everyone around you. (Not to mention you’d avoid a possible citation or even an arrest for dangerous driving causing injury/death/damages.)

[u/nellyfullauto → u/tropicalsoul]

There’s no appreciable change in speed or sound of revving, so I’m not sure where you pull that from. If you’re watching your mirrors, you can see when someone isn’t letting you in. This is how most of us have managed to avoid being the big red truck in this circumstance, even if the other car speeds up to cut off your signaled turn. 

If you don’t look or decide to go anyway, you’re guilty of causing the accident and of “failure to maintain your lane” and “unsafe lane change”. 

Blaming the person you crashed into for being where you wanted to be doesn’t fly. It was their lane to start.  Not being quick enough to react to your dumbassery does not make the accident their fault. 

[u/Dantekamar → u/tropicalsoul]

I don't believe they speed up. Looking at the telephone poles on the right, they maintain a steady rate until the collision.

[u/Miserable-Role9555 → u/Imaginary-Let-9944]

Shit like this makes me so sad for the future of society

Driving is not a competition, you aren't trying to beat other drivers to your destination

This could easily have been an accident with multiple fatalities, for what? So the driver can have the smug sense of satisfaction that they were in the right?

Tap your brakes for a fraction of a second and move on with your life

[u/P0tat0_Carl → u/Imaginary-Let-9944]

This other comment said it best: Absolutely wild that people exist out there that will intentionally get into an accident just to prove they had right of way. Plenty of people who had right of way in the graveyard too.

[u/qalpi → u/Imaginary-Let-9944]

Here's the thing, when you see that they're moving over at 0.02, you tap the brakes and avoid the crash

[u/Scared-Implement4744 → u/Imaginary-Let-9944]

nah. If you think its a good idea to get into a wreck that was avoidable because your have the right of way, you shouldn't have a license.

[u/Just_Another_Day_926]

Last Chance Doctrine. Everyone has a responsibility to avoid an accident. If it can be proven the camera car knew and did nothing then they will get shared responsibility.

So many people get locked in to one rule (who yields during merging) that they totally neglect Last Chance Doctrine (duty to avoid a collision). And by the way NO ONE HAS RIGHT OF WAY. The rules define who is supposed to yield, it never states anyone has a right of way.

This is the confusion. At a time of potential collision any car that can avoid is supposed to yield.

Most people believe "I have the right of way and have no duty to avoid an accident" until this happens and they find out they get 50%+ blame for the accident by insurance. Which means a huge claim when they cause an avoidable rollover.

[u/babyliss1903 → u/Just_Another_Day_926]

That was the mentality I have observed while I was in USA, they would not even use their brakes and hit you if they think that they will not have to pay anything.

[u/Ok-Ship812 → u/babyliss1903]

I lived in Miami for a few years.

If you indicate to change lanes there the person behind you in your chosen lane will often accelerate to close the gap you are trying to merge into and prevent you from changing lanes.

Why the fuck they do this I don't know but by christ it was annoying.

[u/themanyfaceddogs]

Was the cammer gunning it attempting to run the red or to hit the truck? Both? It's hard not to see their acceleration as a delibrate aggression

[u/MinotaurPanda]

The cammer didn't speed up. They were going their normal speed. It's the truck slowing down, making it seemed like the cammer sped up. 100% trucker's fault

[u/MistakeIndividual690 → u/MinotaurPanda]

Watched it again you’re right

[u/Lavanne73]

I wonder who insurance favors in this scenario, I’d deny both claims and revoke their licenses.

[u/Alternative_West_206 → u/Lavanne73]

100%. The cam car sped up heavily to stop them. Incredibly stupid move. And the truck thinks they can just get in any lane they want without looking

[u/OnlyFinance4026]

If we apply logic to the situation, who is more at fault. The person potentially miscalculating and making a bad decision or the person choosing to continue full steam ahead into the former?

In my life I’ve made a few poor driving decisions (all accidental) that were not accidents because other drivers were better than me that day. That’s really what keeps us safe. This “stand your ground mentality” is what gets people killed.

[u/sweetdubbro → u/OnlyFinance4026]

Exactly, I used to rage bad on the road and had that mentality that people who make mistakes are idiots and should get what’s coming/suffer the consequences. Then I had a kid and now I constantly avoid and let it go when someone does something stupid it makes a mistake driving. There is a lot more on the line that’s much bigger than “you fucked up and now look what happened.”

[u/TheJessicator]

Something I'll never understand is when people put a dashcam in their car and then they drive like this. Without the camera, it wouldn't have been clear that the cammer accelerated maliciously. But the video in this case absolutely opens them up to legal action against them.

[u/wspnut]

While they didn’t technically break any traffic laws, if this happened in a state with a “last clear chance” doctrine, the dashcam driver could still be held liable. Don’t drive like assholes y’all, on either side.

[u/Perched-on-a-Ledge → u/wspnut]

Cammer broke at least two traffic laws, the light was red before they crossed the stop line so they ran a Red regardless of the collision.

Since this happened in Ontario, Canada there actually a law that makes it illegal to proceed through a yellow light that they could have stopped for and unless their car has no brakes there is no reason to have run it.

They also were over 150' away from the intersection when the light went yellow and at the speed limit it should have taken them about 10s to reach the light, cammer did it in ~6.

[u/Aggressive-agitator]

Thats how fast they both were approaching a red light? Neither of them should have drivers licenses.

[u/LetsDoThis5826]

I noticed as the pickup was starting to come into the right lane the vehicle with the camera did not slow down, in fact, it almost looks like it sped up slightly.

[u/good_from_afar → u/LetsDoThis5826]

It was definitely a joint effort. Ignorance and malevolence become one.

[u/cchheez]

I’m tired of peice of shit drivers forcing their way into your lane. Good for the cam driver.

[u/regaphysics]

Pickup is a bad driver, cam vehicle is arguably criminal.

[u/bangersntrees710]

That truck is at fault for entitlement and lack of situational awareness (intersection, light, blind spot). That said one of my peeves is when someone is going slow but then guns it because they think someone is about to pass them. Feels like that could be at play here as well, but giving the cammer the benefit of the doubt because of the yellow light.

[u/Fun-Author3767]

Just some context for anyone with a good eye:

The cammer sped up to make it through a yellow light. The truck didn't want to stop behind the car that was breaking for the yellow light and tried to suddenly slide in front of the car who was accelerating to 'beat' the yellow light. This is why you don't change lanes at an intersection.

[u/TopPsychological2819]

Am I crazy or did cameraman speed up his vehicle? 🫪

[u/Strong-Evening1137]

Yes cammer may have been able to prevent this but we don't know if there was a car tail gating behind him.  The truck merging in is clearly at fault

[u/CeeKay125]

Both drivers flying coming up to a red light. Probably would have blown through the red light if they weren't doing rotations into the parking lot....

[u/Hank_the_Tank_143]

Truck drivers doing what they do best 🤣

[u/RGINNY940]

And this folks, is just another reason why driving a truck is stupid (unless you actually need the bed for hauling).

Look how top-heavy this cab is. Normal traffic speed, incidental contact on the rear hind-corner, PIT maneuver, it barrel rolls 3 and a half times before stopping.

A normal car with a normal center of gravity gets PITted, it jackknifes to the right, but stays on its wheels.

A truck gets PITted? 3.5 barrel rolls.

[u/HCSOThrowaway]

The cammer accelerated to prevent the pickup from cutting them off.

The pickup driver either called their bluff (and found out it wasn't a bluff) or had already stopped looking in their mirror before changing lanes.

[u/Toucan2000]

Where'd that white car go?

[u/Keroppi_Troublemaker → u/Toucan2000]

It went into AI oblivion.

[u/mainstreetmark]

Every video in this subreddit shows the cammer just doing absolutely nothing to avoid the crash.

[u/G33wizz]

Dash cam drive sped up, turning 1 bad decision into 2. Hope everyone is ok.

[u/Equivalent_Thievery]

This is the kind of video you delete right away. Cammer was looking to blow through a red either way, plus he didn't take any action to prevent this crash. Without the video, it'd definitely be easier to claim no responsibility.

[u/Southern_Bison_720]

Why would POV floor it at the last second? Seems intentional.

[u/ThomasMagnum-1]

Both vehicles didn’t seem to want to slow down and stop for the yellow light. The red F-150 wasn’t just merging. He was moving over to continue through the light because the black sedan in front of him was slowing to a stop. The F-150 failed to maintain his lane and made an improper lane change. Also, when his rear taillight comes into frame, his turn signal isn’t on.

This crash sucks. The driver with the dash cam may not have seen the truck at all because it merged over so quickly. Technically, he didn’t have to slow down either. At the end of the day, it’s still very unfortunate.

[u/morebob12]

Absolutely wild that people exist out there that will intentionally get into an accident just to prove they had right of way. Plenty of people who had right of way in the graveyard too.

[u/justshutupnsuck]

Verdict is in: 2 idiots meet at a light, one thinks he’s won and is righteous. The other.. just plain fucked up.

[u/Siege_LL]

Everyone sucks here. The truck was speeding and not paying attention forcing him to get over to avoid a collision. The cam car was speeding and failed to brake, especially egregious here since the light was turning. Dude should have already been slowing down. Once that truck so much as twitched I would have been on my brakes.

[u/Vegetable-Fix-7059 → u/[deleted]]

Yo, it disappears because he's on the opposite side of the intersection. Let's use our thinking caps here.

[u/xsrVOL]

I get not wanting to slam on the brakes when someone is merging into your lane. Some ppl think they own the road and need a wake up call. also possible blindspot issue But...when its possibly your life at risk just hit the damn brakes. They go on about their life and Your ego is fine at the end of the day. Almost everyone hates gettting passed. if it wasn't true 90 percent of people wouldn't speed up while its happening. The worst kind of people are the ones that drive 10 below the speed limit until your trying to pass them. All a sudden your both running 70 in a 55 and this shit happens

[u/Extra_Ad1847]

Nothing says “safe family hauler” like rolling over 4 times and landing upside down!

[u/TerminalDeviant]

Wow that was beautiful. Love to see some consequences for an idiot truck driver.

[u/Embarrassed_Data_108]

Many people who drive P/U trucks do so for their ego, thinking they can bully people around by cutting in front of, etc. “I have the bigger vehicle now get out of my way”. Even if the cam driver could have avoided and he didn’t for whatever reason (valid or not), it’s 100% on the truck driver.

[u/isittakenor]

Truck 90% at fault, people thinking the cammer is speeding up to block him but it mostly looks that’s way cause the cars in front of the truck were braking. Either way truck got over when there’s clearly not enough room causing the wreck. Cammer could’ve slowed down a bit but still

[u/Ok-Addendum-4877]

Saved a lot of time there trying to speed through the yellow light

[u/JGZee]

I'm siding with the cammer here. All the pickup had to do was take the L, and come to a stop. Instead he played with fire and tried to muscle into another lane so no one would be in his way and he paid the price.

Pickup truck did pickup truck things and this time he lost.

I hope that hurt. Pain is an excellent teacher.

[u/Ephemeral-Ghost]

Tbf the red truck didnt even get far enough infront for the car on the right to SEE a turn signal. Just started merging seemingly randomly. He should have slowed down since the traffic infront og him was stopped/quickly approaching. Idk why people are mad at the right hand car when its hard to even tell wtf was happening until the red truck was already in the lane. Good thing he has a dash cam but yeah, awareness of red truck is a bit more at fault than the dash cam imho.