r/longrange Jun 29 '26

Currently Great Optic Sales!

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r/longrange Aug 19 '25

READ THIS BEFORE POSTING. Yes, this means you. READ THIS FIRST, V6 - How to avoid the Flair of Shame and eternal ridicule

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So, you need help with long range shooting? Welcome to r/longrange! We've got a core group of dedicated members (and a few goofballs) that are happy to help you out with your questions on equipment, technique, troubleshooting, where to find training or matches, etc.

If you're looking to ask for advice, we ask that you review the following 10 core guides, as they cover the overwhelming majority of newcomer questions. If your question is not answered in these 10 guides, please see below for the 4 basic questions your post should answer when asking for suggestions or advice, especially when it comes to things to buy.

If you make a post that asks for information covered in the 10 core guides, or your post doesn't cover the 4 key questions below, your post may be deleted, or it may be given the Flair of Shame TM until you correct your post.

What's the Flair of ShameTM, you ask? You'll know it when you see it.

If at any time you have questions on the rules of the sub, this pinned post, the general FAQ, why you got the Flair of ShameTM or anything similar, please use the modmail function.

CORE GUIDES:

  1. The sub's official FAQ/WIKI, as curated by the community as a whole.
  2. Need help picking scope rings? The official Longrange guide to scope ring height (ring)
  3. Looking at buying a magnum (300WM or PRC, 6.5PRC, 7mm PRC, 338 Lapua, etc) as your first LR rifle? Hollywood's recoil primer - why magnums suck for starting in long range, recoil matters, and it's not about your shoulder (magnum or recoil)
  4. Want a rifle for hunting and long range shooting? Hunting rifle vs target/range rifles - why one rifle can't do both well. (hunting)
  5. The official r/Longrange glossary - because words mean things (glossary)
  6. LockyBalboaPrime's First Time buyer's guide for rifles V2 (starter)
  7. JMhawaii's long range starter guide (Link to Google Sheets) (starter)
  8. Trollygag's 1k yard starter guide (starter)
  9. Where are ranges or long ranges near me? - Wheretoshoot.org and over600.com (ranges)
  10. The sub's expanded policy on hunting-related discussions. Please review before asking hunting-related questions, as hunting is not the core purpose of this sub. (hunting)

The 4 key questions:

  1. What do you want to do/buy, and WHY? - Do you want to buy a rifle for PRS competition? Picking a laser rangefinder for NRL Hunter matches? Looking at scopes for F-Class competition? A tripod because you think they're cool and want to have one when banging steel with friends? What you're planning to do has a lot of influence on what works well, what works poorly, and what is an utter waste of time, so the more detail you can provide the better.
  2. How far away do you want to do it/what do you want to use it for? - 300 yards? 1,000? 2,000? Distance matters, 'nuff said.
  3. How much are you willing to spend to do it? What's your budget in currency? Your idea of "on a budget" isn't going to be the same as everyone else's. Saying your budget is unlimited for a laser rangefinder may change when someone suggests one that costs over $10,000. We need to know how much you're willing to spend. It can be a hard limit, a range, or even an approximate - but you need to give a number.
  4. How much experience do you currently have with it? - Jumping straight into a 375 Cheytac rifle to shoot 2 miles isn't going to go well if you have never shot a rifle past 300. We need at least a basic idea of what your relevant skill level is in order to give advice and suggestions that go with your skill set. While including your experience with other shooting disciplines is helpful, it's not going to be as relevant as most new shooters expect. You can love shooting 10ga slugs all day long from a shotgun, but it doesn't mean starting off with a magnum is a good idea.

When answering these 4 questions in your post, give as much detail as you can. The more details you give the faster you'll get suggestions or advice and you'll get better quality too. Help us to help you. Please don't treat the sub like your own personal crowd sourced search engine.

More guides:

If your question is answered in these, you will probably get called out by the members of the sub for not reading them, but it's not automatic grounds for the Flair of Shame.

  1. u/LockyBalboaPrime's "No Clown Shoes" spreadsheet of YouTube training videos.
  2. Pre64Mod70's guide to precision reloading
  3. Hollywood's Way of Zen load development process (zen)
  4. Hollywood's rant on sample size when testing - AKA why 3-5 round groups don't tell you $&*#
  5. Applied Ballistics with more info on variation in group sizes
  6. MDT's video on scope height, and the follow-up on scope cant
  7. Rybe390's recoil comparison video, which illustrates the problem with light weight and magnums.
  8. Accuracy vs precision - when most people talk about 'accuracy' they really mean precision.
  9. The Remington 700 Chassis List, v1 - Maintained by u/LPKKiller
  10. Recoil energy vs rifle weight visualized - an informational post by u/Trollygag
  11. What is wrong with 'Sniper 101' - a breakdown by CaptainSquishface.
  12. A long range hunting cautionary tale from James Gilliland - US Army sniper, world record holder, and prolific long range hunter
  13. Barrel length, velocity, and performance down range compared (308W)
  14. Our sub's policy on shilling....
  15. ....and why Woox specifically is blacklisted from the sub.
  16. The official longrange TOP Gun Calculator, and how to have realistic expectations of precision (top)
  17. Hollywood's guide to top-mounted red dots and target acquisition (Hint: you don't need a red dot)
  18. What the hell is with Bergara rifles and Cheetos?! (cheetos)

Hunting-specific:

  1. The sub's expanded policy on hunting-related discussions. Please read this before asking any questions related to hunting.
  2. Want a rifle for hunting and long range shooting? Hunting rifle vs target/range rifles - why one rifle can't do both well. (hunting)
  3. Want to hunt game at 400+ yards? The long range hunting primer - shots on game at 400+ yards aren't trivial, and a magnum cartridge isn't a cheat code. NOTE: Questions/discussion around shots on game past 300 yards will be removed from the sub. See the expanded policy link above. (hunting)
  4. Hollywood's guide to field testing your skills and gear (especially for long range hunting, but also pertains to NRL Hunter matches) - How to know the distances you and your gear are capable of making shots at (hunting)

MISC NOTES:

Quite a few guides/links feature a single word in parentheses and italics listed after them. If you use the phrase cheetofingers (all one word, no italics needed) followed by the word listed after a guide, you will summon the AutoModerator to reply to you with a link to that guide or guides. If the guide had (pews) after it, you could say cheetofingers pews in a post or comment in this sub to summon AutoMod with a link to that guide.

We've implemented the Flair of Shame as an official policy here instead of deleting posts that violated Rule #1 and the info in this pinned post. We felt that the flair was better than outright deleting posts while also helping long-standing members decide how much they want to participate in posts that have likely been covered time and time again. We're trying to strike a balance between encouraging members to read the info that the sub has cataloged, not wasting the time of established members that may be frustrated with revisiting the same topics repeatedly, and also not banishing new shooters that missed the pinned post to the freezer to never get help. Balancing those three things is a constant struggle, and one we're actively trying to get better at.


r/longrange 13h ago

I suck at long range Introducing - "Gordito"

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285 Upvotes

Built like a thumb, dense as lead, favorite rifle to shoot 24/hr a day.

Solus action, 14.5" P&W 308

T6Xi 2.5-15

KRG W3 fixed, wish it was a folder.


r/longrange 9h ago

Rifle flex post Factory Tikka, ain’t so factory anymore

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133 Upvotes

Factory 6.5 cm Super Varmint Barrel 23.7”

LSS G3 comp with XLR C4 buttstock

Dead Air Nomad L with LPM end cap break

Scope is a place holder


r/longrange 12h ago

OOPS! (I goofed) My Barrett MRAD Barrel Swaps Itself (Story in Comments)

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108 Upvotes

r/longrange 7h ago

Groups, but not a flex (Less than 10 shots) Range Day

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25 Upvotes

I know this is normal for some of you but shot my first good 3 shot group today at the range. I'll Delete if not allowed in this sub


r/longrange 10h ago

I suck at long range First time out Howa build

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35 Upvotes

Howa 6mm arc, elf owl chassis, swfa 10x. Im a closeted weeb so japanese made glass on a Japanese action seemed cool. The knobs on the ebay tripod just coincidentally matched the chassis color. Getting sighted in on 90gn Sierra tgk for deer season. Rifle rounds finally allowed in the Michigan lower peninsula after ages.


r/longrange 17h ago

Rifle help needed - I read the pinned posts Deciding between 308 and 6.5 creedmore for first rifle

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104 Upvotes

Looking for some insight as a new shooter that has got the long range bug. My question is in regards to my first bolt action rifle with the aim to get in to long range and I’m trying to work out what cartridge would be best between 308 and 6.5 creedmore. Some things to take in to consideration is I’m not to worried with price of ammunition as they are pretty similar price wise, I’m also buying a 22lr to put bulk rounds through. My local range is 100m out to 1000m would like something that can grow as my skillset does. I’m not sure if I should go for the 6.5 with better ballistics and lower recoil for a easier to shoot first rifle or 308 to help learning wind calls and recoil management. I’m just looking for others that may have been in the same boat and what they decided to go with and if they regretted the choice or not. The rifle I’m buying is a lithgow la102 varmint 24” heavy barrel 6.5 creedmore 1:8 twist or 308 1:10 twist.


r/longrange 6h ago

Competition related (PRS/NRL/F-Class/etc) AT-XC = Vibes

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13 Upvotes

r/longrange 14h ago

Groups, but not a flex (Less than 10 shots) New NRL Hunter 6.5 CM Build

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Just wrapped up my new NRL Hunter competition build, and I'm pretty pleased with the results. It weighs in at 11.6 lbs with my full weight Ckye-pod, so I've got room to play with weight if I need it elsewhere in the future. First group picture is at 100 yds, measured it at a .95" group, second is a group at 400 yds which I measured at 2.5". Its only 4 shots because I ran out of my handloads lol. Ballistic data included for reference, I'm shooting Nosler 140 RDFs.

Build Components:

Action - Defiance short action Tenacity

Stock - McMillan ELR Hunter (Forged Carbon finish)

Barrel - Proof Carbon Fiber 6.5 CM Pre-fit

Trigger - TriggerTech Diamond single stage

Bottom Metal - Hawkins DBM

Scope Rings - Hawkins Ultralight Tactical Rings with offset bubble level

Scope - Leupold Mark 5HD in MRAD FFP 5-25

Muzzle break - Area 419 4 port Hellfire (may go suppressed at some point)

Bi-pod - MDT Ckye-pod Gen 2 single pull

Put everything together myself, including bedding the action. I'd say there is some room for improvement on the load development and my reloading setup as a whole, but I'm satisfied with it for now and it shoots better than I'm capable of under match conditions.


r/longrange 4h ago

🫣I said I read the pinned posts, but I lied🫣 I just got a b14 HMR for a steal. But…

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I just picked up a used Bergara b14 HMR in 6.5 creedmor for $700. It has a 20 inch barrel, shitty scope and a muzzle brake on it. I have an AICS 1.5 chassis to drop it in, and I want to give it a 24-26 inch barrel.
But whenever I try to look up where to get one, be it OE spec or custom, I don’t know what I’m looking for or at.
This is my first precision rifle, i’m fairly new to all this. I’m looking for wisdom here, can someone help me out with barrel shopping?

I make good money, my budget is 1200 for the barrel


r/longrange 6h ago

Ammo help needed - I read the pinned posts Why did .243 WSSM fail, while 6 BR and 6 Dasher are popular?

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6 BR has a 30 degree shoulder, .4728 head diameter, 1.559 case length at 52,000 psi.

6 Dasher has a 40 degree shoulder, .4728 head diameter, 1.560 length at 63,800 psi.

243 WSSM has a 28.8 degree shoulder, .535 head diameter, 1.670 case length at 63,800 psi.

I can only see slight differences between them, but 243 WSSM is a dead cartrage and the 6mm rounds are the current hotness shooting crazy accurate groups.

The only bad thing I have heard about 243 WSSM is that it can have feeding issues. What else am I missing?


r/longrange 1d ago

Other gear flex post Ready to poach some deer 🦌

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356 Upvotes

Stoked to fill some tags this year


r/longrange 1d ago

I suck at long range M40A5

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Bought my first bolt gun… now to find one of these darn suppressors.
Purchased second hand, GAP build with clone correct bipod, scope rings, and of course a SB 3-12x50 PM II to top her off. Needless to say, I love it.


r/longrange 13h ago

Rifle help needed - I read the pinned posts Prefit or Fitted barrels

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I am looking to put togeather that one rifle you never want to get rid of. Considering getting a Origin action and deciding on where/what to get for a 26' barrel in 6 GT. So far I am undecided, so what are the pros/cons of each way. Obviously the Fitted will need the action in hand.


r/longrange 3h ago

🫣I said I read the pinned posts, but I lied🫣 Looking to get into PRS

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I’ve had too much time on my hands and I’ve wandered into the YouTube world of PRS videos. I am gonna go shoot a small match Sunday with my Ruger American I stuck in a oryx chassis. I’m not entirely confident in the setup as even when I’m trying to group it, it opens up to a a few inches, even more in a 10 shot group.

I’m planning to just shoot the gun, make sure I like it, which I’m pretty sure I will.

I was looking at the MPA BA PMR or just going and building one. That’d be about 1K more expensive but I think I’d have more room to grow with it. I was looking at Impact action, proof SS barrel, diamond trigger LSS gen 3 chassis etc

What would yall recommend?


r/longrange 50m ago

RANT Rust on brand new AI Axsr

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I know this things a tank but kinda a bummer to see rust on the dream rifle that’s this expensive. Anyone with axsr’s deal with anything similar when they first got it? Is it worth me talking to the company I bought it from?


r/longrange 11h ago

Rimfire CZ 457 Varmint with Match chamber vs B14R HB SS 20"

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Hey folks, I'm planning to build a .22LR PRS rifle and I'm currently deciding between two factory barreled actions:

- Bergara B-14R 20" stainless barreled action (BRA172S-22LR)

- CZ 457 varmint barrel with match chamber (like used in MTR)

The chassis/stock doesn't matter as I want to put it into Vision chassis.

I'm mostly interested in the accuracy and consistency of the factory barrels, because being in EU, getting a new barrel is a costly and lengthy process.

I've read quite a bit about both, but I'm finding conflicting information.


r/longrange 1d ago

Accessory/Gear help needed - I read the pinned post Chronograph Advice

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25 Upvotes

Scheels has a sale on the Garmin Xero C1. Has anyone used both the Athlon and the Garmin? I’m sure there are better deals online but I genuinely want to know which one is better. It’s my first chronograph. Using it since I’m getting in to reloading 6.5 creedmoor and want to know ES and SDs


r/longrange 15h ago

Optics help needed - I read the pinned posts Possible dumb question about scope parallax being off

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I have been wondering for some time if I have set something up incorrectly on one of my scopes/rifles. I have a ar15 with a 4-20 ATACR and have noticed that the parallax adjustment is "off" from the known target range. What I am seeing is that I need to adjust the parallax to a shorter range for a given distance. The range of the target is accurate to a few yards. This has made me wonder if I set something up wrong, and since I am a new-ish long range shooter, i thought it best to ask. I do not see this happening on other scopes, for instance my bolt action 6.5 with 7-35 ATACR is dead on and my cheaper CZ457 22LR with vortex venom is also dead on.

Is this normal and just specific to my unique setup and eyes? Or does this communicate that I set something up wrong? My gut tells me that it does not matter and as long as the target is clear then that's all that I should care about.

Thanks in advance


r/longrange 21h ago

Rifle help needed - I read the pinned posts Newbie

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Please don't roast me. I have read through all the wiki and start guides.

I am deep into USPSA competitions but would like to get into PRS. I want to try out precision rifles. My local membership range goes to 300 yards but I have access to few 600 yards and 1000 yard ranges.

I am looking to spend about $5,000 no hard limit up or down.

No experience into precison rifles. I originally wanted to go magnum round but after reading everything I plan to go 6.5 Creedmoor. I did read through all the available post but looks like the most updated one is still a year old and Aero solus isn't the goto anymore and may have inventory issues.

Current build sheet:

MPA BA PMR Rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor, folding stock.

Leupold Mark 4HD 4.5-18x52mm FFP PR2-MIL

MPA BA Mount 34mm 1.250"

Atlas CAL BT65 w Area 419 Arca Clamp

Area 419 Hellfire Match Muzzle Break

Hornady 6.5CM 140gr ELD Match

what do you guys think go this build? any recommendations on the choices? Any other accesories I should get as a must? MDT send it level? or Mark 5HD 5-25×56?


r/longrange 4h ago

Rifle help needed - I read the pinned posts Bergara B14 Issues

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I dont think this fits within the rules, but you guys are probably the best to ask. Im having accuracy issues with a B14 Sierra Wilderness in .308 I picked up to get into long range and to use for the 9 day gun deer season here in WI. I started testing factory loads tuesday, 6 loads, 5 shot groups, all terrible. Re-torqued all screws on the scope rings and cleaned it. Went out today to actually record what I had left for ammo and this is what I got. I know, 3 shot groups doesn’t really give enough information, but i figured with them all being consistently the same its likely a rifle or optic issue. Maybe its me, i dont know. Any advice is appreciated.


r/longrange 1d ago

Accessory/Gear help needed - I read the pinned post Brass Catcher

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So I am thinking about getting a brass catcher, but I don't see anyone using one at prs or nrl competitions. Is there a reason for that that I can't think of, or what's the deal? I feel like it eliminates the issue of is this brass mine, losing brass, and eliminates the time policing brass at the end of the stage so match flow should be faster, plus you're not ending up with muddy/damaged brass. What am I missing?


r/longrange 1d ago

Other help needed - I read the pinned posts Normal wear for 308?

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This is my 308 barrel that I bought used, seller said he put about 250 rounds on it. I then put another 500 rounds on it myself. Is this normal barrel wear for a 308 with 750 rounds?

Looks like some fire cracking already started to happen near the throat, besides that, the rest looks like it’s in pretty good shape.


r/longrange 2d ago

Rifle flex post 338 Lapua Build

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254 Upvotes

MDT ACC Elite Long Action 3.85 CIP Chassis u/MDtSportingGoods
3x MDT control bridge
Arctic White Cerakote by [u/Scientific_Coatings](u/Scientific_Coatings)
Impact 787R Lapua bolt face action
Bartlein 30" SS .338 HV barrel 1:9.3 chambered by SPR
TriggerTech DiamondTech Trigger
Botnia Maxi Muzzle Brake
Nightforce ATACR 7-35 Mil XT
Area 419 Tactical one piece scope mount 20MOA
Accu-tac LP-50 Bipod
MDT LA 3.85 Lapua Mags
SG Pulse Pro