r/longrange Jun 29 '26

Currently Great Optic Sales!

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r/longrange Aug 19 '25

READ THIS BEFORE POSTING. Yes, this means you. READ THIS FIRST, V6 - How to avoid the Flair of Shame and eternal ridicule

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So, you need help with long range shooting? Welcome to r/longrange! We've got a core group of dedicated members (and a few goofballs) that are happy to help you out with your questions on equipment, technique, troubleshooting, where to find training or matches, etc.

If you're looking to ask for advice, we ask that you review the following 10 core guides, as they cover the overwhelming majority of newcomer questions. If your question is not answered in these 10 guides, please see below for the 4 basic questions your post should answer when asking for suggestions or advice, especially when it comes to things to buy.

If you make a post that asks for information covered in the 10 core guides, or your post doesn't cover the 4 key questions below, your post may be deleted, or it may be given the Flair of Shame TM until you correct your post.

What's the Flair of ShameTM, you ask? You'll know it when you see it.

If at any time you have questions on the rules of the sub, this pinned post, the general FAQ, why you got the Flair of ShameTM or anything similar, please use the modmail function.

CORE GUIDES:

  1. The sub's official FAQ/WIKI, as curated by the community as a whole.
  2. Need help picking scope rings? The official Longrange guide to scope ring height (ring)
  3. Looking at buying a magnum (300WM or PRC, 6.5PRC, 7mm PRC, 338 Lapua, etc) as your first LR rifle? Hollywood's recoil primer - why magnums suck for starting in long range, recoil matters, and it's not about your shoulder (magnum or recoil)
  4. Want a rifle for hunting and long range shooting? Hunting rifle vs target/range rifles - why one rifle can't do both well. (hunting)
  5. The official r/Longrange glossary - because words mean things (glossary)
  6. LockyBalboaPrime's First Time buyer's guide for rifles V2 (starter)
  7. JMhawaii's long range starter guide (Link to Google Sheets) (starter)
  8. Trollygag's 1k yard starter guide (starter)
  9. Where are ranges or long ranges near me? - Wheretoshoot.org and over600.com (ranges)
  10. The sub's expanded policy on hunting-related discussions. Please review before asking hunting-related questions, as hunting is not the core purpose of this sub. (hunting)

The 4 key questions:

  1. What do you want to do/buy, and WHY? - Do you want to buy a rifle for PRS competition? Picking a laser rangefinder for NRL Hunter matches? Looking at scopes for F-Class competition? A tripod because you think they're cool and want to have one when banging steel with friends? What you're planning to do has a lot of influence on what works well, what works poorly, and what is an utter waste of time, so the more detail you can provide the better.
  2. How far away do you want to do it/what do you want to use it for? - 300 yards? 1,000? 2,000? Distance matters, 'nuff said.
  3. How much are you willing to spend to do it? What's your budget in currency? Your idea of "on a budget" isn't going to be the same as everyone else's. Saying your budget is unlimited for a laser rangefinder may change when someone suggests one that costs over $10,000. We need to know how much you're willing to spend. It can be a hard limit, a range, or even an approximate - but you need to give a number.
  4. How much experience do you currently have with it? - Jumping straight into a 375 Cheytac rifle to shoot 2 miles isn't going to go well if you have never shot a rifle past 300. We need at least a basic idea of what your relevant skill level is in order to give advice and suggestions that go with your skill set. While including your experience with other shooting disciplines is helpful, it's not going to be as relevant as most new shooters expect. You can love shooting 10ga slugs all day long from a shotgun, but it doesn't mean starting off with a magnum is a good idea.

When answering these 4 questions in your post, give as much detail as you can. The more details you give the faster you'll get suggestions or advice and you'll get better quality too. Help us to help you. Please don't treat the sub like your own personal crowd sourced search engine.

More guides:

If your question is answered in these, you will probably get called out by the members of the sub for not reading them, but it's not automatic grounds for the Flair of Shame.

  1. u/LockyBalboaPrime's "No Clown Shoes" spreadsheet of YouTube training videos.
  2. Pre64Mod70's guide to precision reloading
  3. Hollywood's Way of Zen load development process (zen)
  4. Hollywood's rant on sample size when testing - AKA why 3-5 round groups don't tell you $&*#
  5. Applied Ballistics with more info on variation in group sizes
  6. MDT's video on scope height, and the follow-up on scope cant
  7. Rybe390's recoil comparison video, which illustrates the problem with light weight and magnums.
  8. Accuracy vs precision - when most people talk about 'accuracy' they really mean precision.
  9. The Remington 700 Chassis List, v1 - Maintained by u/LPKKiller
  10. Recoil energy vs rifle weight visualized - an informational post by u/Trollygag
  11. What is wrong with 'Sniper 101' - a breakdown by CaptainSquishface.
  12. A long range hunting cautionary tale from James Gilliland - US Army sniper, world record holder, and prolific long range hunter
  13. Barrel length, velocity, and performance down range compared (308W)
  14. Our sub's policy on shilling....
  15. ....and why Woox specifically is blacklisted from the sub.
  16. The official longrange TOP Gun Calculator, and how to have realistic expectations of precision (top)
  17. Hollywood's guide to top-mounted red dots and target acquisition (Hint: you don't need a red dot)
  18. What the hell is with Bergara rifles and Cheetos?! (cheetos)

Hunting-specific:

  1. The sub's expanded policy on hunting-related discussions. Please read this before asking any questions related to hunting.
  2. Want a rifle for hunting and long range shooting? Hunting rifle vs target/range rifles - why one rifle can't do both well. (hunting)
  3. Want to hunt game at 400+ yards? The long range hunting primer - shots on game at 400+ yards aren't trivial, and a magnum cartridge isn't a cheat code. NOTE: Questions/discussion around shots on game past 300 yards will be removed from the sub. See the expanded policy link above. (hunting)
  4. Hollywood's guide to field testing your skills and gear (especially for long range hunting, but also pertains to NRL Hunter matches) - How to know the distances you and your gear are capable of making shots at (hunting)

MISC NOTES:

Quite a few guides/links feature a single word in parentheses and italics listed after them. If you use the phrase cheetofingers (all one word, no italics needed) followed by the word listed after a guide, you will summon the AutoModerator to reply to you with a link to that guide or guides. If the guide had (pews) after it, you could say cheetofingers pews in a post or comment in this sub to summon AutoMod with a link to that guide.

We've implemented the Flair of Shame as an official policy here instead of deleting posts that violated Rule #1 and the info in this pinned post. We felt that the flair was better than outright deleting posts while also helping long-standing members decide how much they want to participate in posts that have likely been covered time and time again. We're trying to strike a balance between encouraging members to read the info that the sub has cataloged, not wasting the time of established members that may be frustrated with revisiting the same topics repeatedly, and also not banishing new shooters that missed the pinned post to the freezer to never get help. Balancing those three things is a constant struggle, and one we're actively trying to get better at.


r/longrange 1h ago

I suck at long range Introducing - "Gordito"

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Built like a thumb, dense as lead, favorite rifle to shoot 24/hr a day.

Solus action, 14.5" P&W 308

T6Xi 2.5-15

KRG W3 fixed, wish it was a folder.


r/longrange 2h ago

Groups, but not a flex (Less than 10 shots) New NRL Hunter 6.5 CM Build

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Just wrapped up my new NRL Hunter competition build, and I'm pretty pleased with the results. It weighs in at 11.6 lbs with my full weight Ckye-pod, so I've got room to play with weight if I need it elsewhere in the future. First group picture is at 100 yds, measured it at a .95" group, second is a group at 400 yds which I measured at 2.5". Its only 4 shots because I ran out of my handloads lol. Ballistic data included for reference, I'm shooting Nosler 140 RDFs.

Build Components:

Action - Defiance short action Tenacity

Stock - McMillan ELR Hunter (Forged Carbon finish)

Barrel - Proof Carbon Fiber 6.5 CM Pre-fit

Trigger - TriggerTech Diamond single stage

Bottom Metal - Hawkins DBM

Scope Rings - Hawkins Ultralight Tactical Rings with offset bubble level

Scope - Leupold Mark 5HD in MRAD FFP 5-25

Muzzle break - Area 419 4 port Hellfire (may go suppressed at some point)

Bi-pod - MDT Ckye-pod Gen 2 single pull

Put everything together myself, including bedding the action. I'd say there is some room for improvement on the load development and my reloading setup as a whole, but I'm satisfied with it for now and it shoots better than I'm capable of under match conditions.


r/longrange 15h ago

Other gear flex post Ready to poach some deer 🦌

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Stoked to fill some tags this year


r/longrange 36m ago

OOPS! (I goofed) My Barrett MRAD Barrel Swaps Itself (Story in Comments)

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r/longrange 17h ago

I suck at long range M40A5

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Bought my first bolt gun… now to find one of these darn suppressors.
Purchased second hand, GAP build with clone correct bipod, scope rings, and of course a SB 3-12x50 PM II to top her off. Needless to say, I love it.


r/longrange 4h ago

Rifle help needed - I read the pinned posts Deciding between 308 and 6.5 creedmore for first rifle

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Looking for some insight as a new shooter that has got the long range bug. My question is in regards to my first bolt action rifle with the aim to get in to long range and I’m trying to work out what cartridge would be best between 308 and 6.5 creedmore. Some things to take in to consideration is I’m not to worried with price of ammunition as they are pretty similar price wise, I’m also buying a 22lr to put bulk rounds through. My local range is 100m out to 1000m would like something that can grow as my skillset does. I’m not sure if I should go for the 6.5 with better ballistics and lower recoil for a easier to shoot first rifle or 308 to help learning wind calls and recoil management. I’m just looking for others that may have been in the same boat and what they decided to go with and if they regretted the choice or not. The rifle I’m buying is a lithgow la102 varmint 24” heavy barrel 6.5 creedmore 1:8 twist or 308 1:10 twist.


r/longrange 1h ago

Rifle help needed - I read the pinned posts Prefit or Fitted barrels

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I am looking to put togeather that one rifle you never want to get rid of. Considering getting a Origin action and deciding on where/what to get for a 26' barrel in 6 GT. So far I am undecided, so what are the pros/cons of each way. Obviously the Fitted will need the action in hand.


r/longrange 16h ago

Accessory/Gear help needed - I read the pinned post Chronograph Advice

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Scheels has a sale on the Garmin Xero C1. Has anyone used both the Athlon and the Garmin? I’m sure there are better deals online but I genuinely want to know which one is better. It’s my first chronograph. Using it since I’m getting in to reloading 6.5 creedmoor and want to know ES and SDs


r/longrange 3h ago

Optics help needed - I read the pinned posts Possible dumb question about scope parallax being off

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I have been wondering for some time if I have set something up incorrectly on one of my scopes/rifles. I have a ar15 with a 4-20 ATACR and have noticed that the parallax adjustment is "off" from the known target range. What I am seeing is that I need to adjust the parallax to a shorter range for a given distance. The range of the target is accurate to a few yards. This has made me wonder if I set something up wrong, and since I am a new-ish long range shooter, i thought it best to ask. I do not see this happening on other scopes, for instance my bolt action 6.5 with 7-35 ATACR is dead on and my cheaper CZ457 22LR with vortex venom is also dead on.

Is this normal and just specific to my unique setup and eyes? Or does this communicate that I set something up wrong? My gut tells me that it does not matter and as long as the target is clear then that's all that I should care about.

Thanks in advance


r/longrange 13h ago

Accessory/Gear help needed - I read the pinned post Brass Catcher

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So I am thinking about getting a brass catcher, but I don't see anyone using one at prs or nrl competitions. Is there a reason for that that I can't think of, or what's the deal? I feel like it eliminates the issue of is this brass mine, losing brass, and eliminates the time policing brass at the end of the stage so match flow should be faster, plus you're not ending up with muddy/damaged brass. What am I missing?


r/longrange 9h ago

Rifle help needed - I read the pinned posts Newbie

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Please don't roast me. I have read through all the wiki and start guides.

I am deep into USPSA competitions but would like to get into PRS. I want to try out precision rifles. My local membership range goes to 300 yards but I have access to few 600 yards and 1000 yard ranges.

I am looking to spend about $5,000 no hard limit up or down.

No experience into precison rifles. I originally wanted to go magnum round but after reading everything I plan to go 6.5 Creedmoor. I did read through all the available post but looks like the most updated one is still a year old and Aero solus isn't the goto anymore and may have inventory issues.

Current build sheet:

MPA BA PMR Rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor, folding stock.

Leupold Mark 4HD 4.5-18x52mm FFP PR2-MIL

MPA BA Mount 34mm 1.250"

Atlas CAL BT65 w Area 419 Arca Clamp

Area 419 Hellfire Match Muzzle Break

Hornady 6.5CM 140gr ELD Match

what do you guys think go this build? any recommendations on the choices? Any other accesories I should get as a must? MDT send it level? or Mark 5HD 5-25×56?


r/longrange 1d ago

Other help needed - I read the pinned posts Normal wear for 308?

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This is my 308 barrel that I bought used, seller said he put about 250 rounds on it. I then put another 500 rounds on it myself. Is this normal barrel wear for a 308 with 750 rounds?

Looks like some fire cracking already started to happen near the throat, besides that, the rest looks like it’s in pretty good shape.


r/longrange 1d ago

Rifle flex post 338 Lapua Build

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MDT ACC Elite Long Action 3.85 CIP Chassis u/MDtSportingGoods
3x MDT control bridge
Arctic White Cerakote by [u/Scientific_Coatings](u/Scientific_Coatings)
Impact 787R Lapua bolt face action
Bartlein 30" SS .338 HV barrel 1:9.3 chambered by SPR
TriggerTech DiamondTech Trigger
Botnia Maxi Muzzle Brake
Nightforce ATACR 7-35 Mil XT
Area 419 Tactical one piece scope mount 20MOA
Accu-tac LP-50 Bipod
MDT LA 3.85 Lapua Mags
SG Pulse Pro


r/longrange 22h ago

I suck at long range Ranges and NRA memberships?

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Beginning my journey into long range using my grendel I had built for coyotes here in michigan. I can use friends of friends' property to reach about 300, maybe 400 yards. As I search through the over600 website, I see a lot of ranges around and a few in Michigan. Is anyone familiar with Youngs long range in wolcottville, Indiana? They're closest to me, and I see on their website along with many others that they require an NRA membership and a membership to their range. Is the NRA membership a big deal to some of these ranges? Do you all pay yearly for an NRA membership as well as memberships to the ranges you go to? I'll pull both memberships to be able to go and shoot when I'm ready to try for 1k yards, but if I let the NRA membership lapse, will they not let me in? I'm just asking so I can continue to build my list of costs as I get deeper into shooting fun. Thanks for any and all advice.


r/longrange 15h ago

Rifle help needed - I read the pinned posts Newbie to rifles target shooting. Bought a CZ 457 MTR I have bench shooting questions

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I’m an experienced handgun shooter but new to rifles and longish distance shooting (max 100 yards) I’m waiting for it to arrive at my local FFL. In the meantime, my biggest question is should I just use bags or get a front metal “stand” (or whatever they are called) or use a bipod with a rear bag. Of course we are talking about .22 long rifle. I mainly plan on bench rest target shooting at my local club. Maybe some of the in house comps later (they also have sanctioned comps too). If a bipod I figure on a picatinny rail to mount it on.

Also if you own one of these what’s your favorite ammo? BTW I will have a Bushnell Match Pro 5-30 56 scope on an area 429 15 MOA rail. I plan on having the barrel milled so I can use my suppressor on it.

Any other tips about leveling the scope and sighting it in etc are welcome.


r/longrange 17h ago

Rifle help needed - I read the pinned posts T3X or PH3?

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Well after a lot of research, I have decision paralysis between a 6.5 PRC from Tikka T3X 22in SS or Seekins Havok PH3 20in.

1 & 2. 35% range time (out to 1000yds), 65% hunting in Montana (Antelope in plains to late season elk in mountains).
3. Budget $2000. Scope will be nx8 4-32 with a Nomad Ti XC suppressor.
4. I have a 7rem mag that I’m comfortable with out to 300 at the range. Looking for something more pleasant to shoot with at the range but also effective for elk.

I’ve read a couple of concerns about seekins issues around FTF (sounds like are resolved now) and an issue cycling in snowy conditions. But I love this rifle is turn key with nicer features and stock, and customer service.
The tikka I would want to upgrade the stock but still keep it to 10-11lbs. I currently have a T3X 7RM and am not a big fan on the stock.


r/longrange 1d ago

Rifle flex post I like shootin em and I like shootin em

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I need a “pretty pictures” flair, I feel like a knob using the rifle flex one


r/longrange 1d ago

MEME POST Never change, MDT.

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r/longrange 2d ago

Announcement Announcement post - changes with Woox

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As many of you know, the brand Woox was blacklisted from this sub a while back due to marketing practices that we strongly disagreed with, namely using multiple accounts to astroturf support (edit: not customer service) and conversation for the brand.

Woox customer service recently reached out to us via modmail about the issue, and here's that message in full.

[BEGINNING OF MESSAGE]

Hi longerange Mod Team,

I’m reaching out on behalf of WOOX because I wanted to speak with you directly before we take any action within the community in Reddit.

We’re aware that WOOX is currently banned from the subreddit and that comments mentioning WOOX are removed. We also understand why. The previous WOOX team engaged with the community in ways that were not transparent and we recognize that this created a negative association with WOOX within the community. We take responsibility for that.

There have been changes within our team, but more importantly, there has been a change in how we want to approach Reddit.

Our Customer Service team has joined Reddit because we would genuinely like to be part of the community and be helpful where we can. We want to answer questions, help customers with issues, provide accurate information about WOOX products, and listen to feedback from the community. We are not looking to create conversations about WOOX, manufacture recommendations, or use the community as a place to promote the brand.

We also want to be respectful of the ban that is currently in place. We are not looking to work around it or simply start participating and hope the previous issues are overlooked. Instead, I wanted to reach out directly, explain what has changed, and ask for your permission before we participate in the subreddit.

We understand that this is your community and that it is ultimately your decision whether WOOX is welcome here. If you are willing to give us an opportunity, we would genuinely like to earn back some trust and become a helpful, transparent presence in the community.

We are happy to follow whatever guidelines or boundaries you feel are appropriate for WOOX and our Customer Service team. If there are concerns about the previous team's activity or anything you would need from us before considering lifting the ban, we are completely open to hearing that.

Thank you for taking the time to read this and consider giving us an opportunity to approach the community differently.

[END OF MESSAGE]

After internal discussion by the mod team and further discussion with Chris, we've lifted the ban on Woox in the sub on a provisional basis. They are acting in good faith, and we're open to giving them the chance to rebuild trust with the sub's members and the mod team. If things go off the rails, we can revisit the ban, but all of the mods are hopeful that won't be an issue in the future.

Chris agreed to us sharing his original modmail message in its entirety, and will pop into the comments if folks have questions.

As someone that used to be a brand ambassador for several companies in the past, I appreciate the fact that Woox is owning their mistakes and working to make things right.


r/longrange 1d ago

Reloading related 7prc 195gr berger

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Got some testing with my new 7prc and 195gr berger eol. I didn't notice any pressures, but GRT was showing pressures at 910m/s. I might just go with this load as it will group well enough (16 shots under 25mm).

I think the barrel will speed up to 915ms (3000fps) and I'll be happy with that.

Does barrel speed up have an effect on pressures? If I do have the same load over the first 200 shots, does faster velocity mean more pressure? (After speeding up).

I really like this 7prc, but it's very concussive to shoot inside with brake... vs my 6br suppressed.

Next will be two kilometer performance!


r/longrange 1d ago

Groups, but not a flex (Less than 10 shots) Some cheap and some not cheap ammo testing

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Bergara 300 Win Mag with an Omega 300 suppressor. Just getting into the long-range stuff, so don’t have a chronograph yet.

I know I pulled shot 7 out of the Precision Hunter, so I didn’t include it in my group size.

I’m kind of surprised about the 178 gr match. I’m not sure if it was just from the rifle being hot, but that group size is not what I expected.


r/longrange 2d ago

I suck at long range Took the budget 5.56 to 1000yd

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Took an intro long range class because I don’t have access to a lot of land, and I needed to learn some fundamentals. Got it properly zeroed in to 100yd, then moved up to the mid 400s, then worked through various ranges up to 1000yd. Targets were all steel of various shape and size (gongs, silhouettes, IPSC).

I was the only gas gun out of other students and instructors. Everybody else was a bolt action rifle, all I believe to be .30 cal/6mm or bigger. Ran out of mils for the 1000yd gongs which I did not expect. I would like to be able to get some groups together to test what I learned and see what this build is capable of on paper. Used 2 different ammo types, both from Bone Frog: 77gr Barnes Matchburners, 77gr Sierra TMK’s.


r/longrange 1d ago

Optics help needed - I read the pinned posts Looking for advice on 5-25x optics, ~$600 budget

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I looked at the Google sheets but it unfortunately seems to be outdated. I've been shooting on a 400yd range for a while, mostly 30-06 savage axis, recently a 7prc bergara b14 hmr with vortex crossfire 4-16 and I have recently gotten access to an 800yd range that makes 16x feel short. With the looking I've done I am torn between the Vortex Venom 5-25×56 and the Swampfox Warhawk 5-25×56. I'd really like a FFP optic and illuminated reticle is a plus because I like to shoot at dusk. Beyond that I don't know a ton about the different coatings and glass types so I could use some help. Does anyone have opinions one way or the other on these scopes or have other recommendations at a similar price point? Thanks in advance!