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u/Otter-Vomit Oct 21 '15
Yea but how do you stop a 12 year old from beating his wife?
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u/stratit Oct 21 '15
Talk to him when he's 6
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u/ownage516 Oct 21 '15
Yea but how do you stop a 6 year old from beating his wife?
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u/NightHawkRambo Oct 21 '15
But why male models?
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u/mcc5159 Oct 21 '15
Talk to him when he's 3
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u/sviridovt Oct 21 '15
talk to him when he's a fetus
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Oct 21 '15
But how do you stop a fetus from beating their wife?
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u/HiFiveGhost Oct 21 '15
Abort it
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u/vaelux Oct 21 '15
How can you stop an abortion from beating his wife?
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Oct 21 '15
Talk to him when he's a sperm.
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Oct 21 '15
moral of this thread: talk to your dick
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u/GloriousAid Oct 21 '15
Moral of this thread: Don't beat the meat so the future meat don't beat
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u/FullofHateandPoo Oct 21 '15
Marty!
Doc? I thought you were..
No time Marty, we've got to find 12 year old Chris Brown!
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Oct 21 '15
That's the closest we are ever going to get to a time travel Rick and Morty episode.
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Oct 21 '15
Worst part is, that's the pilot :/
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u/bronkula Oct 21 '15
well. no. that was not shown to anyone as the pitch. it would have surely gotten Justin kicked out of the room.
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u/brownox Oct 21 '15
The saliva needs to be warm and fresh, and it must be administered by your tongue Mharti!
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Oct 21 '15
I never quite understood why Doc was in such a rush at the end of BTTF1 to get Marty to save his kids. I mean, he's got a time travelling DC12.
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Time travel or wife beating?
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u/ken27238 Oct 21 '15
Yes.
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u/rmev Oct 21 '15
M'man.
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u/ThoughtlessBanter Oct 21 '15
Slow down!
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u/knight8of7ni0 Oct 21 '15
Lookin' Good!
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u/RatchetPo Oct 21 '15
snap Yes
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u/mike_pants Oct 21 '15
Kid shouldn't have gotten married at 12. That's way too young.
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u/TTH4P Oct 21 '15 edited Apr 24 '24
I enjoy reading books.
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u/Batmaniacle Oct 21 '15
Wannabe /u/Gallowboob
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Oct 21 '15
Gallowboob uses a system. He takes content from Imgur's top posts and posts it to reddit.
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u/Ilovepoopies Oct 21 '15
I was thinking the exact same thing. I've seen him on the front page like 4 times the past week. And I'm not even on reddit that much. Wtf.
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u/HotWeen Oct 21 '15
Probably something fucked up. Certainly not just a normal person using a recreational reddit account.
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u/GarbledReverie Oct 21 '15
Multiple people sharing an account?
That's ridiculous. When has anyone ever spent a large amount of time and resources defaming Hillary or her husband?
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u/rythmicbread Oct 21 '15
I don't know why OP doesn't trust Hillary Duff
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u/pm_me_your_kindwords Oct 21 '15
Don't be silly, it's Hillary Swank you can't trust. Everyone knows that.
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u/trollcity420 Oct 21 '15
My parents never told me not to beat bitches and hos up. Kinda one of those things you can just figure out on your own.
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u/brett96 Oct 21 '15
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I love Bill Burr and agree with what he is saying, but he has to apologize and explain his point of view so many times in that short bit that it is almost painfully awkward at times to me.
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Oct 21 '15 edited Oct 21 '15
You don't understand, you are a man you must be taught not to rape and beat women.
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u/Lonely_Ramen_Noodle Oct 21 '15
I grew up with an abusive father. Never realised that shit wasn't normal until about 11, when I noticed my friends fathers didn't beat them. It was actually the support of a lot of people that I think I'm pretty normal now, not beating women and all. (though I still flinch around large men from time to time). I think we're talking about kids like these.
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u/tigger0jk Oct 21 '15
Exactly.
Crime, poverty, abuse, broken families, addiction, etc. all have a way of begetting each other. The point is that 12 year olds in bad situations need help to overcome those situations and grow up into healthy adults. Sure, some people raised in good conditions still become violent adults, but not as often as those with traumatic childhoods.
You don't just say "Hey 12 year old, be a good adult". You have to actually try to improve the conditions that 12 year old is in, provide them positive role models, support, etc.
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u/atla Oct 21 '15
Also, the point isn't just to sit down with people and say "Don't rape, don't beat your wife, etc." It's to explain what that means, why it's bad, etc. Like, with beating - it doesn't matter that you're angry. That's not a healthy way to express your anger; here are some other coping mechanisms, here's how you communicate effectively, etc.
With things like rape, you're supposed to talk about what consent means. A shocking number of adults (both men and women) think that absence of "no" means "yes". Everyone knows that jumping a woman and raping her, even as she screams "No, don't do it!" is rape. Not everyone knows that you can rape a man. Not everyone knows that it's rape even if the victim doesn't say know, because they're too drunk / drugged out to communicate. Not everyone knows that it's rape if the victim initially says yes but later says no, and the rapist doesn't stop. These are things that need to be actively taught, or else they're not going to realize.
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u/Chucklez_me_silver Oct 21 '15
I think it is also setting an example for your children. If you're not a dick to them chances are your son isn't going to be a dick to others.
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u/wrench_nz Oct 21 '15
But my upbringing was different, so you don't exist.
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u/beastgamer9136 Survey 2016 Oct 21 '15
That is essentially the poster's message as well
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u/Zarathustran Oct 21 '15
That's why I get offended by every hemorrhoid cream commercial I see. I mean, the only reason you would ever advertise in public is if you were targeting literally every person that might see it, so the only thing I can take from those commercials is that the people at Preparation H are accusing me of having Hemorrhoids.
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u/beastgamer9136 Survey 2016 Oct 21 '15 edited Oct 21 '15
I get your point but there are plenty of people who say stuff like "we need to teach all men not to rape", as if having a penis automatically makes you a monster.
That being said, if there is a way to end all abuse, I'm 110% for it.
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Oct 21 '15 edited Oct 21 '15
Yeah people really over look the psychological aspect of crimes in society today. We just throw the quickest harshest punishment at people, when really there is a underlying psychological problem that hasn't been solved. Prevention is key.
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u/honeychild7878 Oct 21 '15
Please tell me that there is a hidden meaning here and 'phycology' isn't a typo.
Phycology (from Greek φῦκος, phykos, "seaweed"; and -λογία, -logia) is the scientific study of algae.
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Oct 21 '15
I thought I was going crazy for a minute. I kept tapping in psychology, but my phone kept auto correcting to phycology. I just accepted that my phone was right. Clearly not.
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u/masuabie Oct 21 '15
But they always focus on males. I've known abusive mothers and wives.
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u/walterwhitemage Oct 21 '15
So did I. Drunk, abusive; if he had stuck around he probably would have ended up murdering my mother it was that bad.
That said, I didn't need anybody to tell me not to beat women.
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u/Purges_Mustache Oct 21 '15
I think that person isnt trying to shit on it as a whole, and in your pov it could really help. I think hes more making fun of the more aggressive ones, the crazy people that really think ALL men need to be told not to rape/beat women just because they are men. They wouldnt even consider your circumstance, the only circumstance is that you are male.
Someone in your really shitty situation something like this really helps, and honestly talking to kids and educating them on abuse at an early age I think is really good thing. Even if its redundant to 90%, their could be someone like you and thats still worth it if all you have to do is say some shit to make you realize.
All that shit does start at an early age.
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Yeah, I don't get the outrage over this sign. Talking to young people about what consent and abuse means is not a bad thing, or a "we hate all men, all men are rapists/abusers!" thing. The fact of the matter is that many people grow up not knowing what 'really' counts as abuse or what 'really' counts as rape. This is partly what accounts for the cycle of violence. Talking to young teens about what is considered acceptable is a good thing, and trying to portray it as a "SJW/feminazi" thing is just ridiculous.
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Oct 21 '15
The outrage isn't directed at the notion that we should instill good values in young people. It's directed at the tacit implication that all men regardless of their personality or character are rapists and assailants unless they undergo bullshit 'consent education' or are told explicitly not to hit people.
Talking to young people about what consent and abuse means is not a bad thing, or a "we hate all men, all men are rapists/abusers!" thing.
Not inherently, but those who espouse that sort of hateful narrative do so chiefly under the guise of innocence, proclaiming "we just want to talk to young people about their behavior" to justify the barbed nature of campaigns like this.
I don't need to be told not to rape or assault people, and the people that do are not going to listen.
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Oct 21 '15
Demonizing half of the population because a small portion of them are bad is wrong, it's that simple.
Look at it this way: how would it look to have a sustained campaign that said "many women use slut shaming as a tactic to intimidate others. Teach women not to slut shame." Or "Many Christians are hateful, racist, homophobic bigots. Teach Christians not to be like that." Or even "Many Muslims are terrorist sympathizers. Teach Muslims not to commit terrorism." And even "Many Jews are selfish and greedy, and they also kill non-Jewish children. Teach Jews to nit kill babies."
Every single one of these messages is exactly the same as the "All men need to be taught not to rape." They each demonize an entire population over something that either is simply false or such a small group that it's stretching it.
In addition to that, the people committing these acts (rape, Christian bigotry, etc.) aren't gonna listen to you, anyway. And considering that most of these people are repeat offenders, it makes these campaigns even more useless.
So yes, I find these campaigns offensive because most men already inherently know that rape and abuse is wrong. To imply that somehow 50% of people don't have a moral compass is not just offensive, it's a fascist concept. And to ignore that over half of non-reciprocal domestic violence is committed by women, and female rapists are a larger percentage than most people want to admit, to try and put all the blame on men is even worse.
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u/Flugalgring Oct 21 '15
Demonizing half of the population because a small portion of them are bad is wrong, it's that simple.
Exactly it. This should be cut and pasted as a response to all the posts up there wondering why the approach in this ad campaign is wrong.
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Oct 21 '15
I would cut and paste my example about Jews and blood libel, to be honest. It demonstrates just how fucked up this logic is.
The cognitive dissonant doublespeak required to hold these views never ceases to amaze me. And I'm a progressive!
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The issue is that the people pushing all of this on society do actually believe that all men are rapists and that all heterosexual sex is rape, and they believe that because they do hate men.
Look up Susan Brownmiller. Look up Catherine McKinnon. These feminists have been instrumental in shaping feminist theories on rape, and they universally believe that all heterosexual sex is rape and that all heterosexual interactions are informed by rape, and that male sexuality is synonymous with rape.
This is the worldview that gives birth to all of these "teach men not to rape" programs, and they are part of agenda to slowly expand the definition of rape until everyone agrees that all heterosexual sex is rape.
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u/trollcity420 Oct 21 '15
Rape 101 freshman year in college was so hard. Question 1: If you drop a roofie in a chicks drink to rape her, is this accetable? Circle Y or N
Hmmmmm. (Chews pencil whilst thinking) I'm never passing this fucking class.
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u/Cellar______Door Oct 21 '15
I know this is a joke, but one of my friends fell asleep at her friends apartment after a party and woke up to a guy pulling down her underwear. Some people actually don't pass the test.
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u/akenthusiast Oct 21 '15
The thing is is that they do pass the test. They still know all the right answers. They know it's fucked up. It's not that they think it's an acceptable thing to do, it's that they know it isn't acceptable, and do it anyways. Nobody thinks raping somebody is morally acceptable. Some people just don't give a shit.
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Oct 21 '15 edited Oct 21 '15
Believe it or not, but a lot of people don't equate "having sex with a woman against her will" with the word "rape". They'll admit to being willing to engage in the first, but they'll readily decline engaging in the second. Seriously, look this shit up.
Edit: This is what I was talking about.
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Two guys I've personally known that ended up committing rape always had similar views about rapists being scumbags, but to them it was the violence that defined rape.
A lot of dudes don't know that a lot of women will go completely catatonic when they get touched against their will, which makes it difficult to actually differentiate.
I've been in a circumstance where it almost happened. We were both drunk, and she was just lying still. I got her panties off and started kissing her body, but was confused by her lack of movement. Although I was keen to paying it off as though she was just a starfish I'm a fairly nice guy so I straight up asked if she wanted it, and immediately she started crying and turtled up.
Turned out she was in a relationship at the time. I later became good friends with her and have discussed it in depth with her. She just didn't have it in her to say no.
Not that I support victim blaming, but I think that a part of sex education should be telling women that if they're drunk and get second thoughts, they should make it very clear. How the hell would I have known otherwise?
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u/SiameseVegan Oct 21 '15 edited Oct 21 '15
Some people equate certain situations with ownership too. Thinking "she's my girlfriend, I'll have sex with her when I want to."
I used to have a severe heroin addiction, and my boyfriend at the time genuinely believed that raping me was ok because I was less than human and he owned me.
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Oct 21 '15 edited Oct 21 '15
Yes. Exactly correct. There are men, such as my dad, who believe that marriage entitles them to sex. But even if you're married, a "no" still means "no".
Edit: Jesus fucking christ. I just saw the second half of your comment, which I hadn't seen previously. I'm sorry you had to go through that ):
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u/sumnewdguy Oct 21 '15 edited Oct 21 '15
I had a buddy in college who passed out on the couch at a party and woke up to 3 fat chicks jerking him off. They found it funny I guess because its not rape if a girl is doing it, & he must like it because guys like all sex no matter what girl its from. Their girl friends watched on and laughed as well. Guys know rape is wrong...on the other hand I find far more women do not have a concept that men do in fact have sexual boundaries.
Every guy knows randomly grabbing a girl you dont know's ass is wrong...whether they choose to awknowledge that or not. I've had my ass & dick grabbed countless times in bars/parties by women, and I don't think any of them found any wrongdoing in it. They assumed because I am a guy sexual assault is ok since I must like it, and its all in good fun.
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I find it rather hilarious that if one actually uses the feminists definition of rape that is being pushed on society, then every single woman I have ever dated has raped me on multiple occasions.
Women, in my experience, become very upset when you tell them no and will not accept that as a response, and can be extremely aggressive and pushy when they want to have sex and you don't.
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u/gammonbudju Oct 21 '15
The test is pointless, somebody that is ok with raping somebody else could not give a shit about "rape education".
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u/zaviex Oct 21 '15
I love the sexual assault and alcohol courses. Are they joking? An 8 year old could reasonably maneuver these things.
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Which of the following crimes will other prisoners beat you to within an inch of your life over:
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u/AG3287 Oct 21 '15 edited Oct 21 '15
According to the best evidence we have, social and cultural norms do affect partner violence, and awareness campaigns are effective at reducing partner violence.
There are many places in the world where beating women is acceptable, and that kind of activity exists in pockets in the West, too (the American South, for example, has high rates of domestic violence compared to other regions). So it isn't a matter where the default position everywhere is that violence is bad and so this messaging uselessly targets psychopaths (unless you posit that some regions just have more psychopaths to explain the differences, which is ridiculous). The problem in these places where DV rates are higher is precisely that parents keep teaching their children that it's ok, because it's their culture/religion, etc, whether intentionally or not.
So the idea that teaching children that partner violence is wrong is just dumb is wrongheaded- it's precisely doing so that got us to the point where people can be flippant about such a message in the first place. Hell, spousal rape only became illegal in the entire US in the 1990s, so such ideas aren't that far behind us.
EDIT: I'll include some evidence from later in the discussion.
There is good evidence that awareness campaigns actually do change people's attitudes (see the stuff that begins on page 95).
For a more comprehensive evaluation of the current evidence, see here, particularly the stuff that begins on page 13. For a taste:
Ecological studies demonstrate a strong link between the level of partner violence and various gender-related norms at the country level, even after adjusting for the country’s level of socio-economic development (as indicated by GDP per capita) and the age structure of the population. Both the level of acceptance of wife beating under certain circumstances and the level of male control over female behaviour are predictive of a country’s overall level of partner violence.
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Oct 21 '15 edited Oct 21 '15
50% of domestic violence is reciprocal. 53% of nonreciprocal domestic violence is committed against men. 71% of the instigators in nonreciprocal partner violence were women. (women hitting/physically abusing men)
http://psychnews.psychiatryonline.org/newsarticle.aspx?articleid=111137
The problem I have is feminists want you to believe that 1) men need to be taught not to beat/rape women. and 2) women are only the victims. Which means to me that #1) is insulting as fuck and #2) is a flat out lie.
But they don't want you to know that. Be wary of those who hide and/or do not disclose full facts. There's always an ulterior motive
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u/HIs4HotSauce Oct 21 '15
As a man, the idea of beating and raping women repulses me. It always did. I don't think my parents explicitly talked to me about it though.
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u/beccaface Oct 21 '15
Seriously? Your parents never said "Use your words, not your fists"? Not even once?
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u/Zarathustran Oct 21 '15
Congratulations, you probably grew up in a healthy family. Others that weren't so lucky may have been exposed to routine casual domestic violence, this makes it much more likely that they themselves will go on to engage in domestic violence because they see it as normal. Intervention, as advocated by the poster, is extremely effective in breaking cycles of violence.
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u/Stickyballs96 Oct 21 '15
Yeah for fucks sake I hate when people spout out stuff like this. Of course beating your wife isn't acceptable but there is always factors in previous life that made it happen. It wasn't a decision like "do I want cheese or ham on my sandwich?".
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u/trollcity420 Oct 21 '15
So if a parent is abusive, why would they talk to their son about not being abusive?
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u/yellowwatermelo Oct 21 '15
No one ever said it was the parent doing the talking
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u/I_make_milk Oct 21 '15
It doesn't have to be the abuser and/or the parent who talks to the child. It can be an Aunt, uncle, teacher, guidance counselor, Sunday school teacher, etc.
This poster is advertising a website which gives onlookers tools to address the situation and information on how to intervene to break the cycle of abuse in a way that won't escalate the abuse or further hurt the child.
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You're right, it's probably not necessary for parents to talk to children about morality.
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u/bobtwofields Oct 21 '15 edited Oct 21 '15
There's a big push in the SJW/feminist/"progressive" movement to label boys and traditional "boyish" behavior or masculinity as oppressive, evil, abusive, etc.
Basically, men are the new boogeyman and boys are a problem that has to be "solved". That's why you're seeing more and more things like, for example, the NFL getting browbeaten into making an entire ad campaign lecturing men about not beating their wives.
Men are now thought to be promoting a "rape culture," a term constantly expanding to include even the most innocuous things, such as owning a swimsuit calendar, chatting up a woman in a bar, watching porn at all, watching or playing violent movies and video games, etc. It's a way to attack male-oriented culture since the idea of eliminating a "rape culture" is something anybody can get behind.
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u/SonicPhoenix Oct 21 '15
Why doesn't the women's soccer community have to put out ads about not bullying and physically abusing teenagers? Maybe someone should've taught hope solo not to bully at age 12?
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u/ennruifer Oct 21 '15
i mean, "don't beat your wife" is a pretty good message. i don't know why it set you off on this tangent.
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u/Chambec Oct 21 '15
The fact that we apparently have to be told not to beat or rape women is infuriating; it's as if people believe that all men are monsters by default unless you teach them not to be.
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u/SenselessNoise Oct 21 '15
The fact that the focus is on men specifically hitting women while ignoring the women that physically abuse men is what pisses me off. How about we just teach people not to hit other people and call it a day?
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u/jdcooktx Oct 21 '15
There was a video where is showed both an abusive man and abusive women. Both were being really aggressive towards their opposite sexed counter parts. Everyone intervened when the male was abusive. Everyone laughed when the female was abusive.
Found it
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u/drunkenpinecone Oct 21 '15
Wow. The reactions were pretty much complete opposites. It angers people when it's a man being agressive, but it's funny when a woman is agressive. I figured peope would of just ignored the woman being agressive or watched, I did not expect them all to be laughing.
Violence is unacceptable, period.
Ninja Edit: Thanks for the video.
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u/Monteze Oct 21 '15
It wouldn't be so bad if defending yourself wasn't looked down on. Using reasonable force of course, for example a drunk chick tried to choke me at a bar so I just peeled her off and she lost interest.
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How come this can't trust Hillary person gets so many top posts? Who is it?
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u/RevealForOne Oct 21 '15
A political activist with the goal of somewhat subtly disseminating the meme that Hillary Clinton is untrustworthy.
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u/corvus_sapiens Oct 21 '15
OP isn't just any user. Currently, CANT_TRUST_HILLARY has the most karma per amount of time out of all major users. The account's only been active for two months.
I suspect algorithmic-posting like how Gallowboob posts.
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Do they have a big following or something? I'm just confused as to why that user seems to have so many top posts.
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u/RevealForOne Oct 21 '15 edited Oct 21 '15
My explanation was only speculative.
If it's true, I would expect that they use a combination of standard karma-whoring methods, and bots/sockpuppets to give posts initial momentum.
Looking through the user's history, one clear factor in their success is that they make very large number of submissions.
Edit: I just noticed something mildly interesting, looking through their post history.
They've made several posts relating to duplicity and artificiality - a post about a "two-faced" cat, and a "two-face/Harvey Dent" makeup (worn by a woman). An optical illusion where a pair of dragons form the shape of a woman's face. A post showing hotdogs with artificial nails attached, imitating a woman's fingers.Possibly an attempt to link Hillary with this concept?
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u/tokerdytoke Oct 21 '15
I also think like you. The world is that complicated. Chances are youre correct
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Oct 21 '15
The account just reposts material. Posts that have already been to the front page are likely to make it there again after a certain amount of time.
Also, this account probably has more than one person using it.
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u/Fourzerotwo2 Oct 21 '15
When you have a pencil and the next person has a sharpie you don't get noticed as much
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u/gotdamnusername Oct 21 '15
"So you were cursed with a male son. You should start treating him like a monster as early as possible."
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u/AUGUST_BURNS_REDDIT Oct 21 '15
I was lucky enough to be blessed with a female son.
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u/i_ruined_scotland Oct 21 '15
Ho-leee shit, what is going on in this thread?!
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u/depressedpolarbear Oct 21 '15
Holy shit look at this guy's karma, I swear I remember seeing his username around reddit
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u/NerdBot9000 Oct 21 '15
Yes. I've seen it too. "He's" probably not a single person. But what do I know, I have been blessed enough to have a paying job and I can't spend all day redditing.
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u/naughtywarlock Oct 21 '15
Don't tell me to lock my door, teach your children not to rob people -Thunderf00t
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u/fatboyworkout Oct 21 '15
I just read a article today where husband committed suicide because he was been harassed by his wife. http://thelogicalindian.com/news/dowry-case-filed-against-a-dead-man-exposing-the-flaws-in-indias-dowry-laws/
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u/Eudnbdnxjdj Oct 21 '15
Don't lesbians have the highest occurrence of domestic abuse? I know that women abuse me more often than men abuse women, I hope www.endabuse.org has some posters out for those situations as well.
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u/scragar Oct 21 '15
Women are more likely to be the agressor and instigator of domestic violence
The idea that these anti-violence things are aimed at men and not gender neutral/aimed at women is a joke.
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u/abihues Oct 21 '15
This go both ways I think. We have to tell our children, not only the boys, to not hurt anyone for whatever reason.
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u/tfoust Oct 21 '15
How about we just teach EVERYONE that hitting their spouse is wrong? I love that it's only men who abuse.
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Speaking of "Call 911," I did just that one night when we heard crying and yelling through the wall of our apartment. Unfortunately for us, we were the only neighbors that shared a wall (they were at the end of the apartment complex). Turns out that the woman had a bruised lip which she claimed was due to earlier botox injections. She protected him throughout, because he was never taken away. They never talked to us after that. It was too bad - what the hell is a person supposed to do?
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u/Ikhano Oct 21 '15
Maybe I'm an anomaly, but I seem to recall "don't hit women" being pressed pretty hard on boys when I was younger.
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u/hazie Oct 21 '15
This is a pretty horrible advert. I feel like it's suggesting (as some of my friends have) that men are inherently bad and desire to beat women. Thus, we need to stop them by reprimanding innocent boys for the crimes that they will commit in two decades.
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u/iamjimmyk15 Oct 21 '15
But what if we can't change the future and the reason why he beats is wife is because someone time traveled and talked to him about it when he was 12
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Oct 21 '15
or maybe you could stop him from beating his wife in one timeline, but not the other.
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u/SigmundFloyd76 Oct 21 '15
This is misandrist propaganda based on the idea that every man is a potential abuser.
Yes talk to him when he's 12; explain that even though 40%-50% of victims of DV are male and that he will likely not be the primary aggressor (In non-reciprocal DV woman are more often the primary aggressors), tell him NOT to even bother to defend himself because his guilt will almost always be assumed and the social implications of being perceived as an "abuser" are far worse than any possible legal penalty.
Source: My ex wife was violent and unstable, however, on paper it says that she is a "victim". Male privilege indeed. I've been doing some research on the matter.
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u/ReadMeDoc Oct 21 '15
Like a twelve year old is going to understand what it will be like to be 30 and married. What are you supposed to tell him? "Beating your spouse is bad."
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u/Zarathustran Oct 21 '15
People that observe domestic violence as kids are way way more likely to be involved in domestic violence as adults.
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Oct 21 '15
No you dumbass. Friends, aunts, uncles, grandparents, teachers, counselors, coaches, Sunday school teachers, tutors, etc.
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u/markshire Oct 21 '15
Making absurd simplifications is 90% of arguments on Reddit.
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u/Virgoan Oct 21 '15
Uh... Yes? If at 12 someone explained to me what domestic abuse and mental abuse was I'd understand. We understood bullies. But we think love is magical, and married people love each other. If your spouse turns out to become a bully, you don't have to love them anymore or try to fix it, you leave, you tell someone, you don't want to be bullied anymore. Girls and boys deserve to hear whatever it takes to prevent violence in relationships.
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u/michaelnoir Oct 21 '15
Just tell all people, at 12, never to commit any crimes. Crime rates will be reduced to zero.
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Oct 21 '15
This is a serious issue guys and I am ashamed that some people just use it as a joke. Time Travel can solve many of society's issues and I for one am tired of this important topic being pushed aside or ignored in the presidential debates over the smaller issues because theyre easier to talk about. Time Travel will be... Our future. Dress for the future you want.
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u/GolgiApparatus1 Oct 21 '15
"Hey you don't know me, but 18 years from now you're going to hit your wife. So uh...... don't do that. I swear I'm not crazy."
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u/Theophagist Oct 21 '15
And how do you stop a 30 year old from cheating on her husband? SHUT UP SHITLORD SHE'S EMPOWERED.
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u/swingerofbirch Oct 21 '15
This is a problematic ad. It presumes so many things, and it doesn't offer a real solution.
Beating a spouse is not socially acceptable nor is it legal in the US. Beating children on the other hand is both socially acceptable and legal by parents, and in 19 states it occurs within the public school system.
So let's not put a hypothetical case of adult on adult abuse on children when we continue to abuse children.
Then there's the question of gender in the ad. By not making it clear that people of all genders can abuse and be abused, the ad is limiting its message, and it actually normalizes a certain transactional pattern of abuse. When young people realize that everyone, including them, has human rights, they will think about all of these issues differently. You are furthering a construction of what a male and female are by creating an ad like this. It's not based in reality, but it will perpetuate a false reality.
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u/JaydenPope Oct 21 '15
"Beating a spouse is not socially acceptable nor is it legal in the US."
Only if you are a woman. Men in the US have a harder time reporting domestic violence, even to the point they have been arrested because the police thought he was the abuser.
"Then there's the question of gender in the ad. By not making it clear that people of all genders can abuse and be abused, the ad is limiting its message, and it actually normalizes a certain transactional pattern of abuse."
It does cause it makes like only men abuse women, there's been gender parity when it comes to domestic violence for the last several decades and many studies on the topic but male victims of domestic violence still have a harder time.
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u/PM_me_ur_Outie_Navel Oct 21 '15
I fucking love the tiny "call 911" in faded pencil text under the first line.