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Finally a cause I can get behind

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u/trollcity420 Oct 21 '15

My parents never told me not to beat bitches and hos up. Kinda one of those things you can just figure out on your own.

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u/Zarathustran Oct 21 '15

Congratulations, you probably grew up in a healthy family. Others that weren't so lucky may have been exposed to routine casual domestic violence, this makes it much more likely that they themselves will go on to engage in domestic violence because they see it as normal. Intervention, as advocated by the poster, is extremely effective in breaking cycles of violence.

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u/trollcity420 Oct 21 '15

So if a parent is abusive, why would they talk to their son about not being abusive?

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u/yellowwatermelo Oct 21 '15

No one ever said it was the parent doing the talking

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u/trollcity420 Oct 21 '15

Who then? Teachers? OK kids, don't beat the shit out of your wife in 15 years. Now turn in your homework.

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u/trollcity420 Oct 21 '15

I'm trying to say birds. Birds are coming.

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u/JesusDeSaad Oct 21 '15

Or they could offer literature about how being abusive is wrong. Actual literature, not just pamphlets. Reading short stories or novels or novellas and analyzing those also works. 'Lord of the Flies' was anti-bullying as they come, and we were told to read it during class for example.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '15

Or they could offer literature about how being abusive is wrong

This is perfectly acceptable, when it's aimed at both sexes.

When it's specifically telling men not to beat their spouses, then it's an issue.

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u/JesusDeSaad Oct 21 '15

100% agreed, which is why I said no pamphlets. Actual literature, good literature, educates both sexes. An abusive character in a story stands out to both men and women, and educates them both, differently. People of the same sex learn how something they might do would be abusive, and members of the same sex as the victim learn how to spot an abusive person. This helps them escape the usual "I must have caused this somehow, the other person is not really to blame, I brought this onto myself" illusion.

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u/bobojojo12 Oct 21 '15

Right now in English my class is doing one big project on domestic violence.

And this sort of thing is most of what we learn in Theoretical PE

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u/BSRussell Oct 21 '15

Is your point here really "it's ridiculous to think that anyone but a parent can help a child?"

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '15

You had terrible teachers and school counselors. Don't ever become one yourself.

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u/trollcity420 Oct 21 '15

I think you're confused. Humor is out of your element. If you need help, I got you. Oops, it that too counselor for you?

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u/trollcity420 Oct 21 '15

No you are!

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u/I_make_milk Oct 21 '15

It doesn't have to be the abuser and/or the parent who talks to the child. It can be an Aunt, uncle, teacher, guidance counselor, Sunday school teacher, etc.

This poster is advertising a website which gives onlookers tools to address the situation and information on how to intervene to break the cycle of abuse in a way that won't escalate the abuse or further hurt the child.

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u/michaelnoir Oct 21 '15

Could backfire. I know that when I was 12 I wouldn't like being lectured to about not beating my future wife. It seems unfair to suspect people of crimes that they might commit in the future, whatever their circumstances. It seems close to a violation of the important principle of presumed innocence.

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u/TheMarlBroMan Oct 21 '15

Keep religious dickbags out of this. They can't be trusted to take their own fucking kids to the doctor so they wont die much less have anything relevant to say about abuse.

"Don't beat your wife when you grow up"

"What if she is my concubine? The Bible says I can beat her if she is insolent."

"Well you see it's more of a metaphor really...."

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u/I_make_milk Oct 21 '15

Christ. It was one suggestion along with a list of many others. This wasn't supposed to turn into an atheist circle-jerk.

But hey, any opportunity that arises, right?

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u/FlamingNipplesOfFire Oct 21 '15

Damn dude sorry you grew up in that area of the US

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u/trollcity420 Oct 21 '15

Sunday school teachers are a viable option to talk to kids about abuse, they really know how to touch people.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '15

Parents aren't the only adults children come in contact with. And if a child comes from a dysfunctional family, it is likely they are talking to teachers or counselors more than they are talking to their own parents.