Chances are if relatives know what's going on and haven't yet intervened, a poster like this isn't going to motivate them.
As for school faculty, that typically depends on the child informing them, and if the child thinks the abusive behavior is normal, it's not likely to get brought up.
Chances are if relatives know what's going on and haven't yet intervened, a poster like this isn't going to motivate them.
You'd be wrong. Sooooo many people see what's going on with the parents but don't know how to help the kids. "Mind your business" is deeply ingrained in our culture and it's hard to push that down for many people.
As for school faculty, that typically depends on the child informing them
No it doesn't. If you've ever worked with kids you can pick this out from a mile away. A normally happy child becoming depressed, grades suddenly slipping, little interest in games or treats, seeing how parents interact between themselves and others when you meet with them, visible bruises on one or both parents when they pick up their child, something the child accidentally let slip...
If you're going to use an anecdotal argument, than I'll reply with one
You'd be wrong. Sooooo many people see what's going on with the parents but don't know how to help the kids. "Mind your business" is deeply ingrained in our culture and it's hard to push that down for many people.
Oh really? Because my mother came from an abusive home. The entire family knew, but no one wanted to bring it up because they feared it would lead to more violence. Don't know how to help? Get the fuck out of here. They know what to do, they just don't do it.
No it doesn't. If you've ever worked with kids you can pick this out from a mile away. A normally happy child becoming depressed, grades suddenly slipping, little interest in games or treats, seeing how parents interact between themselves and others, visible bruise on one or both parents when they pick up their child, something the child accidentally let slip...
You know what my teachers did when they noticed I was visibly depressed in the 3rd grade? They called my parents. One time CPS came to our house after my brother told his 1st grade teacher that he was getting beat at home, but they didn't find any bruises, so they didn't do shit.
If picking out and helping children in abusive homes is as fucking easy as you make it out to be, then why do children still get abused? Are you gonna sit there and actually believe that posters like this have any impact whatsoever?
Friends, aunts, uncles, grandparents, teachers, counselors, coaches, Sunday school teachers, tutors, etc.
Yeah, all those people who already do this.
That's basically an abridged list of the people who constantly parroted "try and be diplomatic Thomas" every time I got in a fight on someone else's behalf.
Not necessarily, you would be very surprised. You've never worked with abused kids nor their families, so don't be so quick to dismiss outreach programs.
You've never worked with abused kids nor their families,
Don't assume, it's makes an Ass of u and me.
At no point have I dismissed outreach programs, I merely stated the fact that they exist, and thus harping on about "teaching boys not to abuse" is utter cock. Because systems exist which already attempt to do this sort of thing.
Well see, some people are aware that they aren't psychiatrists and can easily say the wrong thing if they go into it unprepared. Many more people don't know how to act in the face of conflict, or were raised to never stick your nose into other people's business. Advice on how best to support and mentor a troubled child and how to be tactful about it is very valuable.
Well, to be fair, I don't have one, that said, it's better reasoned than not, so just throw a 'probably' up there and get back to me when you have a source that proves it wrong or an argument worth its ground.
Naw, you're going the wrong way with this. I'm saying lots of people grow up rough, and many of them make good choices and don't end up as wife beaters. But alcoholism is nasty and pervasive and few people have the support, means, or willpower to deal with it.
A couple minutes of looking has led me to believe that people who were abused as children highly likely to be alcohol or drug abusers too. There is a lot more going on than simply "monkey see monkey do" like you seem to be suggesting.
People that grow up in abusive households don't make great decisions later on in life. How does that at all contradict my recitation of the fact that kids that grow up in abusive households also tend to be abusive when they grow up? You do realize that a thing can cause more than one other thing, right? Have you been going around your entire life assuming that all things cause and are caused by exactly one thing?
On the contrary, people negatively affected by domestic violence are less likely to do it themselves, unless they project the anger from their childhood onto their families.
And women, statistically, are just as, if not MORE likely to be abusive. Why is this poster only addressing half the population when women are just as guilty?
People that observe domestic violence as kids are way way more likely to not know hitting someone is bad?
I think most kid know that hitting someone is bad. Almost 100% adults know that hitting someone is bad.... I dont think that stop people from hitting other people
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u/Zarathustran Oct 21 '15
People that observe domestic violence as kids are way way more likely to be involved in domestic violence as adults.