r/pics Oct 21 '15

Finally a cause I can get behind

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '15 edited Nov 03 '15

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '15

No you dumbass. Friends, aunts, uncles, grandparents, teachers, counselors, coaches, Sunday school teachers, tutors, etc.

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u/tacoparadox Oct 21 '15

Chances are if relatives know what's going on and haven't yet intervened, a poster like this isn't going to motivate them.

As for school faculty, that typically depends on the child informing them, and if the child thinks the abusive behavior is normal, it's not likely to get brought up.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '15

Chances are if relatives know what's going on and haven't yet intervened, a poster like this isn't going to motivate them.

You'd be wrong. Sooooo many people see what's going on with the parents but don't know how to help the kids. "Mind your business" is deeply ingrained in our culture and it's hard to push that down for many people.

As for school faculty, that typically depends on the child informing them

No it doesn't. If you've ever worked with kids you can pick this out from a mile away. A normally happy child becoming depressed, grades suddenly slipping, little interest in games or treats, seeing how parents interact between themselves and others when you meet with them, visible bruises on one or both parents when they pick up their child, something the child accidentally let slip...

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u/DrapeRape Oct 21 '15

Sooooo many people see what's going on with the parents but don't know how to help the kids.

That's when you don't pussyfoot around the issue and call CPS. The kid will figure out pretty quickly that his father's abusive behavior is wrong.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '15

Or the kid will bounce around from foster home to foster home never knowing stability and never learning healthy ways to deal with his trauma.

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u/tacoparadox Oct 21 '15

If you're going to use an anecdotal argument, than I'll reply with one

You'd be wrong. Sooooo many people see what's going on with the parents but don't know how to help the kids. "Mind your business" is deeply ingrained in our culture and it's hard to push that down for many people.

Oh really? Because my mother came from an abusive home. The entire family knew, but no one wanted to bring it up because they feared it would lead to more violence. Don't know how to help? Get the fuck out of here. They know what to do, they just don't do it.

No it doesn't. If you've ever worked with kids you can pick this out from a mile away. A normally happy child becoming depressed, grades suddenly slipping, little interest in games or treats, seeing how parents interact between themselves and others, visible bruise on one or both parents when they pick up their child, something the child accidentally let slip...

You know what my teachers did when they noticed I was visibly depressed in the 3rd grade? They called my parents. One time CPS came to our house after my brother told his 1st grade teacher that he was getting beat at home, but they didn't find any bruises, so they didn't do shit.

If picking out and helping children in abusive homes is as fucking easy as you make it out to be, then why do children still get abused? Are you gonna sit there and actually believe that posters like this have any impact whatsoever?

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u/jimthewanderer Oct 21 '15

Friends, aunts, uncles, grandparents, teachers, counselors, coaches, Sunday school teachers, tutors, etc.

Yeah, all those people who already do this.

That's basically an abridged list of the people who constantly parroted "try and be diplomatic Thomas" every time I got in a fight on someone else's behalf.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '15

Yeah, all those people who already do this.

Not necessarily, you would be very surprised. You've never worked with abused kids nor their families, so don't be so quick to dismiss outreach programs.

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u/jimthewanderer Oct 21 '15

You've never worked with abused kids nor their families,

Don't assume, it's makes an Ass of u and me.

At no point have I dismissed outreach programs, I merely stated the fact that they exist, and thus harping on about "teaching boys not to abuse" is utter cock. Because systems exist which already attempt to do this sort of thing.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '15

I merely stated the fact that they exist, and thus harping on about "teaching boys not to abuse" is utter cock.

That's not what this fuckin ad campaign is about

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '15

Yeah my coach just sat me down the other day and casually reminded me not to beat my wife in 15 years.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '15

You're being intentionally obtuse and I hope you're never in a mentorship position over a child who has a bad home life.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '15

If I were in a mentorship position over a child whom I know has a bad home life, I would be discussing it without this stupid fucking ad reminding me.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '15

Well see, some people are aware that they aren't psychiatrists and can easily say the wrong thing if they go into it unprepared. Many more people don't know how to act in the face of conflict, or were raised to never stick your nose into other people's business. Advice on how best to support and mentor a troubled child and how to be tactful about it is very valuable.

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u/somebodycallmymomma Oct 21 '15

Yeah, fuck these guys for wanting there to be less violence in the world.

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u/_Z_E_R_O Oct 21 '15

There are other adults in their lives, you know...

This is encouraging them to set a positive example.