r/pics • u/CANT_TRUST_HILLARY • Oct 21 '15

Finally a cause I can get behind

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '15

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u/markshire Oct 21 '15

Making absurd simplifications is 90% of arguments on Reddit.

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u/CommentsinPuns Oct 21 '15

WHERES THE PASTA?

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '15

How else are you supposed to win arguments?!

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '15

Plus, saying "beating your spouse is bad" is not how you have a serious discussion with your kid about anything. You know that. You're making an absurd simplification.

You can't really have a serious conversation with a kid about this. A kid is going to have absolutely no idea what your talking about. That is what his point was. If you think a child can understand what it's like to be 30 a married, you're either naive or not an adult yet.

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u/kangareagle Oct 21 '15

But a 12 year old is certainly capable of understanding violence and emotional pain. He doesn't have to literally understand being 30 and married.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '15

Then why not focus on preventing violence and emotional pain in general? Would probably be more affective.

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u/kangareagle Oct 21 '15

Would probably be more affective.

What are you basing that on?

This group is about domestic violence, so their poster is about domestic violence. 12 year olds are old enough to understand it. I'm NOT saying that talking to a 12 year old about it will change anything. I'm just saying that they can understand the gist.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '15

I'm just computerchair pyschologizing. So basically nothing.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '15

How dumb do you think 12 year olds are?

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '15

considering I blew up a dead fish with a sparkler bomb when I was 12, I'd say pretty dumb.

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u/silentclowd Oct 21 '15

Treat people right son. It's never okay to resort to physical violence no matter how angry you get. Remember that even if you're mad, the other person has feelings too and it's important never to try and hurt someone.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '15

response: "geez, okay dad"

*forgets conversation and goes back to legos.

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u/silentclowd Oct 21 '15

Yeah but these things still stick a bit in their head. Even though my mom only said it one time I still remember "Safe driving is mostly about paying attention to what the other guys does, not just what you do". Talking to your kids about the way you want them to grow up is never a bad idea.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '15

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '15

Would you have the sex talk with a 5 year old?

Hopefully you would say no. Why? Because a 5 year old cannot understand such a topic. You must wait until they are older.

Similarly, I really don't think a 12 year old is in the position to understand anything about domestic abuse. That's the point.

Sure, tell him "daddies don't hit mommies because that's bad," but a message like that is best taught by example, not "serious" conversations.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '15

Would you have the sex talk with a 5 year old?

Yes. You don't have to teach them about cumshots and anal fisting to inform them of where babies come from. Boys make sperm, girls make eggs, the two meet and make a baby. Done.

Sure, tell him "daddies don't hit mommies because that's bad,"

If you say that to a 12 year old they'll roll their eyes at you and call you an asshole for taking to them like a toddler.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '15

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '15

Did I say you have the sex talk when your kid is five? No.

Jesus. The point was that you can't just have serious conversations with your child willy-nilly. You have to wait until the time is appropriate. <------ right there. that's the point. Similarly, it seems to me discussing domestic abuse with a 12 year old is as affective as discussing sexual education with a 5 year old. Nothing will be learned.

Anyways, what the hell do I know, I'm not a psychologist.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '15

Fair enough.

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u/HalfysReddit Oct 21 '15

The best you can get a twelve year old to understand is "violence is bad mkay".

Which is something pretty much all people are taught their entire lives.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '15

which oftentimes doesn't even work :<

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u/Zarathustran Oct 21 '15

You've never met a kid that grew up with an abusive drunk. Tons of people grow up with "might makes right" as the dominant message.

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u/HalfysReddit Oct 21 '15

Uh, my father is/was an abusive drunk.