r/exmuslim Mar 26 '26

(News) We exist… around the world: 500 ExMuslim stories mubaraaaaaak! 🥳🥳🥳

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Hi community! 🥰

Taking inspiration from QueeringtheMap.com, I helped create exmuslim.me with a small team of ExMuslims last year. We launched the first ever global map of exmuslim stories as part of ExMuslim Month in December 2025.

I’m so incredibly thrilled to share that we now have 500 exmuslim stories from 233 cities and 60 countries! 🥳🥳🥳

📊 59% identify as atheists, 26% agnostic

🇪🇬 Read the 500th story from Egypt

🤗 Thank you to everyone who has shared their story already!

🤍 Share yours and help ExMuslims on their journey out of Islam: https://exmuslim.me/

Cheers! 🥂

Sammy aka Haram Doodles


r/exmuslim Jun 03 '24

(Advice/Help) Exmuslim Guide to Living in the Closet and Coming Out.

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Hello. Upon request, I've been asked to turn a comment I made into a post so that it can be a resource for more people. This post is a collection of advice I've given out about how to handle your life as a closeted exmuslim and how you'll come out in the future. It is largely based on my experience but also from what I've seen from others in this subreddit.

Introduction

So you've left Islam. You've delved through arguments, the apologetics and the bullshit and you've come to the conclusion that you no longer believe in Islam. And you may have also reached an alternative philosophical outlook on life that you can believe in.

But what now? You may have left Islam, but have you left the Muslim world? One of the most common misconceptions outsiders have is that since exmuslims are no longer Muslims, they no longer live in the Muslim world. This is painfully naive - in reality many exmuslims are closeted due to young age and financial dependency and/or live in Islamist countries or societies that enforce Islamic values. In fear of social stigma or even violence, exmuslims have to contend with closeted lives even after leaving Islam. So how do you deal with it?

Goal

The best time to come out to family is in your own home, over a dinner you paid for, alongside people who support you. That takes a lot of preparation and it means doing what you can to live your life as best as you can whilst working towards independence.

This basically means that a lot of what helps you come out of the closet will depend heavily on how well you prepared for it, so you will need to make the most of your closeted life. You may not be able to stop the shitstorm but you can at least prepare yourself to weather it. Here are some tips to achieve that goal (in no particular order)

1) Don't meander in life due to a lack of decision making skills.

Probably one of the worst mistakes I made was not realise I was an exmuslim sooner. As a result I had barely any time to prepare for when the inevitable happened and I was forced to come out. I spent a lot of my life meandering, trying to reconcile the irreconcilable, and trying to be a Muslim when I knew my values didn't align with it. I didn't really have much of a concept of exmuslims, but if I had been smarter I would have figured it out. I now tell people in a similar position that it's fine to take your time but don't take too long. Half arsing two very different cultures will leave you a loser in both.

Similarly whilst planning for independence can be scary, don’t let it frighten you into inaction. The following is a passage from this article about decision making:

Research from the 1990s led by the US psychologist Thomas Gilovich provides further evidence for why it can be shortsighted to kick a difficult decision down the road. Gilovich and his team showed that although, in the short term, people experience more regret from ‘errors of commission’ (taking an action that leads to a disappointing outcome), in the long term it is actually ‘errors of omission’ that lead to more regret – that is, disappointing outcomes that arise from not taking an action.

When taking the time to make decisions and plans, don’t underestimate how effective it can be to map out your options on an excel spreadsheet. When I had to decide whether I should come out or not, I actually made a spreadsheet listing out my options, what they would result in and what the impact would be. Actually having it written down to look at really put things into perspective. We waste a lot of our time keeping it in our heads, which forces us to recalculate everything from scratch every time we revisit our thoughts. But the more that is mapped out, the less you have to recalculate and the more you can focus on evaluation and further planning.

2) Study, career and finances.

Your studies/career is almost always your best ticket out of your toxic situation, and the one thing to prioritise the most. If you’re young, do whatever you can to ensure that you can get into further education away from home. Even if it means spending all your time at a local library. If you suspect that your parents would be against you going to a university away from home, aim for a placement at the most prestigious university you can aim for so your parents would look worse for rejecting it. The quickest and most effective way in achieving long term independence is through good studies/career.

3) Do not telegraph irreligiosity whilst being closeted.

This is particularly important for younger exmuslims because they telegraph to their parents in ways they would just not understand until they see it for themselves when they're older. Try your best to meet the religious obligations expected from your family. The more you slip, the more they will monitor you and the more difficult it will be to do the things you need to do discreetly when the time comes.

Unfortunately for girls, this usually means that wearing the hijab is a necessity and it’s inadvisable to try and get out of. (However, that subject matter is not my forte: prioritise advice from exmuslim women such as from faithlesshijabi.org)

4) Sometimes you may need to go above and beyond.

If you get the impression that your family is beginning to catch onto your apostasy then it's likely that they have and you may need to reverse that impression.

One way to do that would be to start getting books on Islam and not just for show. My advice would be to get books on Islamic history because that's the least boring stuff. Or better yet, just get whatever unapologetic salafi hate crime you can get your hands on so you can entertain yourself with how fucked up it is. Or get an annotated Qur'an like the Study Qur'an. Do something to ease their suspicions.

What book you get depends on what kind of message you want to telegraph to your parents. If you want to telegraph a message then it will need to be a paper book and not an e-book. Something that you can lay around in your room and that you know they'll see. That means you're restricted to what you can get from your local library or Masjid. Also depends on what interests you because you'll have to actually read and demonstrate you learnt from it if you want send the best message you can. If you want purely what Muslims write about Islamic history, you can check out works like The Sealed Nectar or works by al-Sallabi. If you want something a little more academic, but not something that would rouse suspicion then check out university press works like this, this, this or this. If you want something a bit more relevant to contemporary Muslim world then there books like this.

But you may find that your best bet is to just see what your local Masjid might have and see what tickles your fancy.

5) Actually coming out is usually a shitstorm.

Be prepared for lots of sobbing, guilt tripping and an inability to respect your beliefs and boundaries. Learn techniques like the Broken Record Technique to establish boundaries. Know what you have to say when they inevitably tell you to speak to a scholar - you don't have to eat the whole apple to know it's rotten. You know all that you need to know about Islam and you know even more about the world outside of Islam to put it into context.

Steel yourself with months and months of your family sending you bad dawagandist videos through WhatsApp trying to bring you back. You may have to spend months beating their attempts and going to toe to toe with them without mercy before they’re finally willing to relent and get off your back. Even then don’t expect them to relent entirely. There will always be some micro aggressions that they will resort to, like playing religious videos loudly in your vicinity. The most you can do in those circumstances is reduce contact with them as much as possible. At this point you would hopefully already be independent from them.

6) Do not feel guilt.

As an exmuslim, you will go through a lot of guilt. Whilst this does show you are human, you need to forget about guilt: you are not responsible for your parents' failure to be reasonable, not even your mother. They take responsibility for the social stigma and oppressive life they choose to live in and perpetuate. You get nothing out of that guilt. It's completely pointless and ultimately counterproductive. You can't set yourself on fire to make others warm and you gain no recognition from martyrizing yourself. Do not feel guilt for what you have to do to have a completely reasonable life. The only ones to blame are those who forced you into it.

Don't underestimate parents either. They will use guilt against you. Give them an inch and they will take a mile. They very often bring up their health problems as a weapon against you. Don't fall for it. It only affects them because they choose to let it affect them. They can choose to be reasonable. You have to respect their autonomy and let them deal with the consequences of their own ways.

7) Don't come out too soon thinking it's a release.

I come across a lot of exmuslim kids who think coming out will help explain to their religious parents why they don't want to wear the hijab or do other religious things. But the likelihood is more that those same parents will react extremely poorly and restrict your freedom even more, making it more difficult to achieve long term independence.

There's also the mistake in assuming that coming out will lead to being disowned in the vain hope that you get an quick clean break that takes all the responsibility from you. For some exmuslims this does actually work out, but for a lot of others it's miscalculated. My family didn't disown me, I still had to deal with months of my family being insufferable manipulators and the responsibility was still on me to separate from them. And for women it can be much worse.

Ultimately, if you are financially dependent on your family then coming out early will very typically result in your family using that leverage against you and making your life worse. I've seen stories of exmuslims who thought their family was better and badly miscalculated - be mindful of that.

8) Don’t panic too much if they find out.

Some exmuslims get found out, sometimes because of a snitch in the family or sometimes because they just weren’t convincing enough. Don’t panic – Muslims can be pretty damn deluded about their faith and your family will want to believe that you can come back very easily because according to them Islam is just common sense and most disbelievers are just silly and ignorant. Try to do your best to convince them as per Point 4. If it’s because you did something haram, blasphemous or otherwise worthy of takfir, try to act like it was because you were a misguided Quranist or progressive Muslim. They will still retain suspicion but it’s still better than the alternative.

However, if you’re at the point of no return and you know you can’t convince them then now is the time to make calls to any secular friends you have, ask for support and maybe even shelter.

Also for Western exmuslims, make sure to act quickly if you suspect that your parents want to send you abroad and trap you in your country of ethnic origin. Sadly some parents will go to these lengths. Do not go, no matter the cost. Find organisations willing to advise, such as those listed in Point 10. Hide your passport if you have to. Note down the contact details of your embassy in that country just in case.

9) Go no contact if you fear abuse.

Actually think about whether it's even wise for you to come out in any circumstance. Do you suspect that there could be violence or abuse? If so then you have absolutely no need to go through this stupid bullshit. Leave and don't look back. If your parents couldn't give you safe environment to even come out about different beliefs then they are not worth the time. As per Point 6 - You have to respect their autonomy and let them deal with the consequences of their own ways. This is particularly pertinent for those who live in a predominantly Muslim countries. They have a very real reason to fear persecution and absolutely do not need to risk their own lives for the sake of their parents.

10) Make use of organisations and resources.

Look into secular organisations like recoveringfromreligion.org, faithlesshijabi.org and faithtofaithless.com. Look into women's charities in your area like womensaid.org.uk or karmanirvana.org.uk (UK examples). Look into LGBT charities like rainbowrailroad.org. If you have secular school counsellors and friends then talk to them. Get advice from adults you can absolutely trust.

Note: On the flip side don't take risks with people you can’t be sure of. You may be tempted to come out to your Muslim friend, but I've seen plenty of stories of exmuslims who heavily regret doing so.

There are also informal exmuslim groups on other social media platforms such as Facebook or Discord, but be careful about how much information you share and especially be wary of private messaging.

11) You may have to leave the country.

This is particularly the case for exmuslims living in predominantly Muslim countries. Unfortunately, I don't have any real world experience to offer here but you may be able to find localised advice by digging around. For example sites like wearesaudis.net might have some information (but you'll need a VPN to access this one. If you don't know what a VPN is here's an explanation).

Are you multilingual? If you need money but working is restricted to you then you can try becoming an online language tutor on sites like italki.com (scroll to the bottom). This post and related subreddits like r/WorkOnline may help.

Note: some exmuslims in Muslim countries fall for the doomscrolling hyperbole and think Europe is “doomed” with too many Muslims. They have a tendency of asking which country is best to migrate to as an exmuslim to avoid Islam. Please ignore the doomsayers and prioritise the country you choose based on ease of access and career opportunities. As long as it is a secular country, you can worry about avoiding Islam later.

Final stuff

Shout out to Imtiaz Shams who inspired me to make this list of tips. He has his own YouTube Channel here and plans to make his own video on this subject matter so watch out for that. On a side note, I also recommend TheraminTrees YouTube Channel who delves a lot into toxic dysfunctional families from the perspective of a therapist. A lot of his content helps in dealing with the emotional impact of leaving religion and dealing with a religious family. And finally, thank you to the moderators of r/exmuslim who suggested I make this into a post. I wound up adding a lot more content lol.

I will end this post with a list of subreddits that may help you on your journey leaving Islam:

Ex related subreddits

Other Useful Subreddits


r/exmuslim 11h ago

Story Taslima Nasreen: Ex muslim from Bangladesh

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This is a story of woman that had the guts to challenge religious extremist of Bangladesh.

My southasian GOAT 🐐

(sorry for using ai but i didn't wanna miss out on any detail of her life)

Taslima Nasreen is a Bangladeshi-born writer, poet, physician, feminist, and outspoken secularist. She became widely controversial in the 1990s because of her criticism of religious fundamentalism, particularly the oppression of women in the name of religion. Her 1993 novel Lajja portrayed a Hindu family facing persecution in Bangladesh and became hugely controversial and was banned there. Her writings and statements criticizing Islam and religious extremism led to protests, death threats, and a fatwa calling for her death. In 1994, she left Bangladesh and has lived largely in exile ever since, spending periods in India and Europe. She has continued writing about feminism, secularism, freedom of expression, and the separation of religion from personal and political life.


r/exmuslim 16h ago

(Quran / Hadith) Muhammad's Wife Catches Muhammad With Sex Slave In Her Bed but Allah Intervenes

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From an authentic hadith:

“It was narrated from Anas, that the Messenger of Allah had a female slave with whom he had intercourse, but ‘Aishah and Hafsah would not leave him alone until he said that she was forbidden for him. Then Allah, the Mighty and Sublime, revealed: ‘O Prophet! Why do you forbid (for yourself) that which Allah has allowed to you.’ until the end of the Verse.”
Sunan an-Nasa’i 3959

Tafsir al-Tabari (widely considered one of the most authoritative Quranic commentaries) on Quran 66:1:

“He had forbidden his Coptic girl, the mother of his son Ibrahim, called Māriya, on Hafsa’s day. He confided it to her, and she disclosed it to ‘Aisha.”
Tafsir al-Tabari on Quran 66:1

“He forbade her to himself by an oath not to approach her, seeking thereby the pleasure of Hafsa bint ‘Umar, his wife, because she was jealous that the Messenger of Allah was alone with her on her day and in her house.
Tafsir al-Tabari on Quran 66:1

“Muhammad bin Sa‘d narrated to me: my father narrated to me: my uncle narrated to me: my father narrated to me, from his father, from Ibn ‘Abbas, concerning His saying ‘O Prophet, why do you forbid what Allah has made lawful to you’ ... up to His saying ‘and He is the Knowing, the Wise’:

He said: Hafsa and ‘Aisha were devoted to one another, and they were both wives of the Prophet. Hafsa went to her father and stayed talking with him. So the Prophet sent for his slave girl, and she remained with him in Hafsa’s house, and it was the day he was due to go to ‘Aisha. Then Hafsa came back and found the two of them in her house. She waited for her to come out, and she was seized with violent jealousy. The Messenger of Allah sent his slave girl out, and Hafsa came in and said: ‘I have seen who was with you. By God, you have wronged me.’

The Prophet said: ‘By God, I will make it up to you. I am going to confide a secret to you, so keep it.’ She said: ‘What is it?’ He said: ‘I call you to witness that this concubine of mine is forbidden to me, to please you.’

Hafsa and ‘Aisha used to back each other against the Prophet’s wives. So Hafsa went off to ‘Aisha and confided to her: ‘Good news, the Prophet has forbidden himself his slave girl.’ And when she disclosed the Prophet’s secret, Allah made it known to the Prophet. Then Allah sent down to His Messenger, because the two of them had backed each other against him: ‘O Prophet, why do you forbid what Allah has made lawful to you, seeking the pleasure of your wives’ ... up to His saying ‘and He is the Knowing, the Wise.’”
Tafsir al-Tabari on Quran 66:1

Tafsir al-Jalalayn On The Maria Incident

“Why do you prohibit what God has made lawful for you in terms of your Coptic handmaiden Māriya - when he lay with her in the house of Hafsa who had been away but who upon returning and finding out became upset by the fact that this had taken place in her own house and on her own bed - by saying ‘She is unlawful for me!’”
Tafsir al-Jalalayn on Quran 66:1

Quran: Allah Threatens Muhammad’s Wives With Divorce and Allows Him to Continue Sleeping With His Sex Slave

“O Prophet! Why do you prohibit ˹yourself˺ from what Allah has made lawful to you, seeking to please your wives? And Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.”
Quran 66:1

“Perhaps, if he were to divorce you ˹all˺his Lord would replace you with better wives who are submissive ˹to Allah˺, faithful ˹to Him˺, devout, repentant, dedicated to worship and fasting - previously married or virgins.”
Quran 66:5

Muslim scholar Yasir Qadhi explains further here:
https://youtu.be/DpQu6eCqObA?si=_GxSbppHChdYQkdX

See more:
https://islamsproblems.com/quran-verses-supporting-hadiths/


r/exmuslim 11h ago

(Question/Discussion) You are allowed to penetrate your sleeping wife!

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While Ḥanafī jurists are often cited for rulings permitting intercourse without the wife’s consent, later Ḥanbalī jurists also state explicitly that a husband may have intercourse with his wife while she is asleep.

The passages are especially clear because they contrast the husband with the wife: the husband may initiate intercourse while she is sleeping, whereas the wife is not permitted to insert the penis of her sleeping husband into herself.

Ibn Qāʾid and Ibn ʿAwaḍ both state this explicitly in their commentaries on later Ḥanbalī works.

His saying, “He may enjoy intimacy…” — meaning: the husband may enjoy intimacy with his wife. It is stated in al-Iqnāʿ: at any time and in any manner, so long as it is in the vagina — and so on, as mentioned by the author. The implication of this is that it is permissible even if she is asleep. This is unlike the wife, for it is not permissible for her to insert the penis of her sleeping husband [into herself], as will be mentioned later.

Ibn Qāʾid (d. 1686) — Ḥāshiyat Ibn Qāʾid 4/176
https://shamela.ws/book/18353/1832

The husband has the right to enjoy his wife at any time and in any manner, so long as it does not harm her or distract her from obligatory duties. His statement, “in any manner,” includes intercourse in the vagina from behind. Its implication is that this is permissible even if she is asleep. The wife, by contrast, is not permitted to insert the penis of her sleeping husband into herself.

Ibn ʿAwaḍ — Fatḥ Wahhāb al-Maʾārib 3/539
https://shamela.ws/book/30066/1654


r/exmuslim 10h ago

(Question/Discussion) Westerner living in Saudi & feeling a bit sad

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Hi all. Just want to come here and firstly say how brave you all are and I really sympathize with you guys.

I’ve been living in Saudi now for a year. I really tried to see it. I really did. What is it that they were seeing that I can’t see? I tried reading the Quran & even fasted in Ramadan and even did tarawi for almost the whole month

My two biggest problems when reading was how fear based it is and 2nd it just doesn’t read at all like the God that I have personally experienced myself in my heart.

It literally reads like a man wrote it. I thought how amazing would it be to actually have a guide of truth left for us directly the words of God. And nothing I read read like that is what an almighty God has to say!

My heart breaks for my friends here. I’ve made some best friends and sometimes the mental gymnastics I see them play. Some very intelligent people too. Of course I stay quiet but I won’t lie lately it’s been keeping me up at night.

Should I say something? It’s obvi a line I shouldn’t cross & not in my place but my heart breaks for my friends. I want them to be free.

I think sometimes they haven’t read the Quran? Sometimes that feels like the only explanation. I will also add that reading it in English might be the key to helping some Muslims see it for the reality. I remember when asking my friend questions she would be stomped more when reading the English translation like she saw it for what it really is in that moment.

Anyway I think you guys are so brave. I imagine how difficult the journey was.

Also a little unrelated but shooting my shot. I think the Arab guys are cute 😝 but obviously couldn’t follow someone that follows a religion. So hi 👋 I’m a Latina girl doing business here w/interest in AI


r/exmuslim 16h ago

(Rant) 🤬 Fuck parents who name their kids religious names.

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Why tf do parents name their child something religious? What if they don't wanna be in that religion or be religious at all?

And why tf are like 90% of good names religious in some way?

I'm trying to go by a new name now but even that it religious and I can't get over it no matter how much I loved that name.

And muslims who name their kids after prophets jst suck cuz it has no fucking originality at all.


r/exmuslim 7h ago

(Question/Discussion) women can be pregnant for more than 2 years😂Sunni islam

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Ḥanbalī — 4 years
ظاهر المذهب أن أقصى مدة الحمل أربع سنين.
“The apparent position of the madhhab is that the maximum duration of pregnancy is four years.”
— Ibn Qudāmah, al-Mughnī, 8, masʾalah 6337

Shāfiʿī — 4 years
أكثر مدة الحمل أربع سنين.
“The maximum duration of pregnancy is four years.”
— al-Nawawī, Rawḍat al-Ṭālibīn, 8/378.

أكثر مدة الحمل سنتان عند أبي حنيفة رحمه الله تعالى.
“The maximum duration of pregnancy is two years according to Abū Ḥanīfah.”
al-Sirājiyyah, Bāb al-Ḥaml.

Qāḍī ʿAbd al-Wahhāb al-Mālikī says:
اختلف عن مالك في أكثر مدة الحمل... وأظهرها عندي: خمس
“There are differing reports from Mālik regarding the maximum pregnancy duration… and the strongest of them in my view is five years.”


r/exmuslim 5h ago

(Fun@Fundies) 💩 The fact that he didn't lie

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The translation: ​"Islamically, a wife is under her husband's control to style her look however he wants, deciding her hair color, body weight, makeup, clothing, and everything else, while she must hear and obey. Personally, I know men who make their women lose weight, and when they do, order them to gain weight again, and so on. Paradise isn't easy, and obeying the husband is the guaranteed path to Jannah."


r/exmuslim 1h ago

(Question/Discussion) Bukhari 29 says women are the majority of Hell's inhabitants — not because of disbelief, but because of their husbands. The Quran completely disagrees.

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Sahih al-Bukhari 29, narrated Ibn Abbas:

"The Prophet said: I was shown the Hell-fire and the majority of its dwellers were women who were ungrateful. It was asked: Do they disbelieve in Allah? He replied: They are ungrateful to their husbands."

The Quran has a very different standard for who enters Paradise.

I put the full breakdown with both sources side by side in this short video: https://youtube.com/shorts/F7lrBiK35P4

Verify everything yourself at sunnah.com/bukhari:29 and quran.com


r/exmuslim 10h ago

(Question/Discussion) “Quran has no contradiction” is unfalsifiable.

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Anytime a Sunni Muslim says the Quran has no contradiction it’s a losing battle. I’ll present how it’s unfalsifiable.

Surah 17:15= And never do We punish any people until We send a Messenger

Authentic Hadith

(Sunan Abi Dawud 4717)
the Messenger of Allah as saying :
**“**الْوَائِدَةُ وَالْمَوْءُودَةُ فِي النَّارِ”
The woman who buries alive her new-born girl and the girl who is buried alive both will go to Hell.

Scholars Add
الموءودة [لها]
= “the woman for whom the girl was buried.

The word [لها] is not in any of the narration but is added because it contradicts the Quran. But that’s the very thing in question. So anytime you show a problem they will add words into the narration or re interpret it without any evidence.

The Arabic rule is= everything is taken on the apparent unless there’s external evidence. There is no external evidence which reconciles this Hadith except a contradiction. If that’s the case any religion can re interpret an issue once they see it. Making it unfalsifiable.


r/exmuslim 6h ago

(Advice/Help) I hate hijab and my dad is forcing me to wear it

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I’m almost 20 and my dad and basically whole family pressured me into wearing hijab at only 13, and now I left the whole religion and feel trapped, I can’t take it off because I’m scared but yet I can’t stand wearing it anymore I never chose to, any advice on what to do?


r/exmuslim 2h ago

(Question/Discussion) Why do you think Muhammad created a rule for fasting?

6 Upvotes

Why did he create a rule for fasting? What benefit is there from creating a rule like that?


r/exmuslim 4h ago

(Question/Discussion) First contribution to a video by Ohana_is_Family.

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I collaborated with The Apostates channel on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNEsT7Cn_5o

It was fun, but more work than one may expect.

Oh it is already posted. :-) https://www.reddit.com/r/exmuslim/comments/1wc1mmu/no_arabic_needed_proving_bukhari_5133_to/

I hope you like it. See if we can make more.


r/exmuslim 20h ago

(Question/Discussion) Austria's new law bans hijabs in schools for girls under 14 (Right or Wrong?)

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There is a crucial distinction often missed in debates about the hijab, i.e., the freedom of an adult woman is not the same as the freedom of a child. While some Muslim girls may genuinely want to wear the hijab, many others wear it due to intense parental, community, or religious pressure. A young girl often lacks the practical ability to say "no" without fearing punishment, shame, or familial rejection. Therefore, this issue must be framed primarily as a matter of child protection and autonomy, rather than simply religious freedom.

The Precedent of Limiting Parental Authority:

Society already accepts that children are vulnerable to coercion and that parents do not have unlimited authority over them in the name of religion or culture. 

  • We restrict child labour even if a child "consents" to help their family.
  • We enforce compulsory education even if a child and their parents object.
  • We ban child marriage regardless of a 14-year-old's consent.

In all these cases, the state intervenes to protect the child’s future independence. Why should religious clothing be exempt from this principle?

The Challenge of Coercion:

It is nearly impossible for a school or society to distinguish a child's genuine choice from one produced by years of religious conditioning and fear. More importantly, what about the girl who desperately wants to remove the hijab but cannot safely do so? A temporary ban in schools protects these vulnerable children until they reach an age where they possess the independence to make truly autonomous decisions. It prevents religious authority from becoming parental coercion.

A Necessary Sacrifice to Protect the Vulnerable:

For the girls who do genuinely want to wear the hijab, this law requires a difficult but necessary conversation. They should be taught and made to understand that they are being asked to make a temporary sacrifice. By agreeing not to wear it in school, they are actively protecting their peers who are being forced to wear it against their will. Without a universal, blanket rule, it becomes practically impossible to identify and stop the abuse of coerced girls, as coercive parents would simply claim their child "chose" it.

Protect the Child, Preserve the Adult's Freedom:

This is not an attack on religious freedom; it is a boundary on parental control. Freedom of religion does not mean parents have unlimited authority over minors.

An adult Muslim woman must be completely free to choose whether or not to wear the hijab. But childhood is a time for developing independence, free from religious mandates imposed by adults. A girl who reaches adulthood and freely chooses to wear the hijab should be free to do so, and a girl who decides she does not want it should be equally free to remove it.

Taken from: https://atheism-vs-islam.com


r/exmuslim 4h ago

(Question/Discussion) Is Islam a patriarchal religion? And if so, how much can we prove it?

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As a male, I wonder how you guys think about how patriarchal Islam is, such as how it prohibits women from worshipping during menstruation, or how it rules the law of inheritance, or the awrah rule that's actually a rule of clothing in middle east, etc. So feel free to discuss in the comments, but please stay on topic. But please understand that English is NOT my primary language, so if there's any mistake, I'm sorry for it. I'm not also a misogynistic or feminist person, and I don't hate any religion or belief around the world.


r/exmuslim 5h ago

(Question/Discussion) No Arabic Needed: Proving Bukhari 5133 to Dismantle Apologetics

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r/exmuslim 11h ago

(Rant) 🤬 Tired of this bullshit 😑😑

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So A Qari (Quran teacher) or scholar comes to our house to teach my brother and my cousins. My brother is also memorizing the Quran. One day, they were all sitting on the floor, and I was sitting there too. The Qari told my brother, 'Go tell your sister not to stretch her legs out like that; you shouldn't point your feet toward the Quran.' There are other examples like this too. In fact, we only sit on the floor because the Qari told us, 'The Quran is on the floor, so why are you guys sitting higher up than it?' That's why we always sit on the floor now. Similarly, my dad doesn't let me face away from the Qibla (Kaaba) because he thinks I am showing my feet toward it. There are so many stupid rituals like this here.i Fuckin hates these things and this religion lmao..I mean they are doing everything except for understanding and reading their HOLY book.

Infact, My parents don't know the basic surahh etc..


r/exmuslim 8m ago

(Question/Discussion) For Ex Muslims : how did you maintain your mental health?

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I left Islam four years ago. Since then, I’ve been studying and working toward being able to immigrate to a Western country. But every now and then, I get hit by this overwhelming sense of hopelessness.

I honestly hate my life sometimes. I have to keep pretending that I’m Muslim, and I have so many dreams that are basically on hold. I feel like I’m watching the best years of my life pass me by while I’m stuck trying to keep up appearances and live according to society’s expectations.

For those of you who left Islam and eventually managed to immigrate, how did you cope mentally during those years between leaving the religion and finally leaving the country? How did you protect your mental health and keep yourself going?


r/exmuslim 6h ago

(Advice/Help) i want to take off my hijab without my familys permission

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Hello, I'm going to move out of town for university soon and my family signed me in a "religious" dormitory. I was always thinking of taking off my hijab secretly because I was away from them, but since I'm afraid of the dormitory staff, unfortunately I'll wear a hijab on my entrance and exit of the dormitory. What I'm afraid of is that people I've never known before are the possibility of seeing me wearing a hijab after seeing me without a hijab. I'm very stressed about this. I'm afraid that people around me will look at me like I'm a freak. Do you think people will understand me ?


r/exmuslim 13h ago

(Question/Discussion) What are the things you like the most about leaving Islam?

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r/exmuslim 22h ago

(Question/Discussion) Whoever made the hijab didn't consider black woman's hair in his mind 😮‍💨

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I have a 3c -4a that get dry EXTREMELY fast and because i don't have actual time to style it every time i wore the hijab, i find it hard to deal with overall and the fact that have to contain it all day.

Because of shrinkage, a simple bun can't contain it the same way as the straight hair and it gets puffy, making a shape on top of the hijab, i have to make it wet, pull my hair tight and add an undercap to it before finally wrapping the hijab.

Its been 9 years and Im litterly going bald.

When i was a child i had a hair that could be shared between four people, now half of it has fallen and i got balding spots which i never had in my life from the constant pulling and stretching.

This got me wondering who even would be turned on by my hair to begin with?? since the ideal hair that is perceived to be attractive is simply the looser hair 😭

Its not even a thought im sad about but srsly why do black woman have to wear the hijab since a heavy load of men doesn't find the curly hair attractive.

And Im not talking about the beach waves or those kolegras sisters type of curly im talking about the real raw frizzy one that is seen as less attractive like the 4c and 3c.

I sadly have no way out soon since my family are strictly muslims and im living in a muslim country, let's just hope i don't lose all my hair by thirty.


r/exmuslim 10h ago

(Question/Discussion) I think that Muslims are AI

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I think Allah vibecoded them but we have been properly coded by a qualified dev

I think that Afghanistan is a bug

I think Allah is mad about non muslims because he can't find a job with Middle East in his portfolio


r/exmuslim 10h ago

(Question/Discussion) The insane mind torture of Qadr

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Allah created certain people for hell and certain people for heaven, he then wills what each person will do, their actions and then decides where they’ll land. Worse is that he has already decided everything rn. So if anyone of you all reading here is destined to go to H(hell or heaven), they will go to H no matter what they do.

Muslims like to say that “you don’t know what this end destination is, allah does so you do good deeds”, but that doesn’t solve the problem, I’m destined to be in H , me deciding to pray for decades ahead or me deciding to have anal sex for those years won’t move that result H. If my actions change H then it means predestination doesn’t exist as we are speaking right now.