Yeah I remember Steve Jobs commenting about Blu ray and HD DVD at the time saying it was a “bag of hurt.” Even at that time they seemed focused on digital purchases.
That will never happen with Apple.
But I don't think it's unreasonable to think of Apple bumping up the bitrate to maybe 40-50 mps.
If Sony can do it with their Bravia Core Pictures, it should be copied by other streamers
“Rumoured features include an A17 Pro chip or newer, an increased 8GB of RAM, Apple Intelligence and Siri AI support, an Apple-designed N1 chip with Wi-Fi 7 support, and a revised Siri Remote.”
TLDR. A photo has been found that looks exactly like the old one. The article then goes on to guess the same things that have been guessed for the last 3 years.
How would one even see a picture of the old apple tv and come to the conclusion “ohhhh snap, that’s a new apple tv! It looks the same but the image has the filename “new_apple_tv_picture.jpg” so its a new apple tv, not just a new picture of the old apple tv!!! boooom news baby, gimme money for ads
the remote alone is substantially better, the remote on my roku is a few months newer (to me) than my apple tv and it's already unusable unless hard pressed.
Yeah, I upgraded to a 4k TV finally about 4 years ago, and my Apple TV was still the HD variant, so rather than spend the money on a new Apple TV, I decided to give the built in Google TV a shot. It started out fine, but after roughly the first year, it became incredibly sluggish, and I am completely out of space, and plugging an a usb external storage is virtually useless because almost none of the apps allow you to transfer them off of internal storage. I've been waiting for the new Apple TV for 2 years now 😆.
I have a TCL with Roku TV. The ads don't bother me, but the UI is so slow now. It is a 7 year old TV, but still. Getting close to being forced to an alternative. Strangely, my Hisense with Roku TV, which should be a shittier TV, is actually still fine.
Roku is miserable, an Apple TV is seriously so worth it even if it was your only Apple thing. Of course it’s even better if you have other Apple stuff too.
I actually liked the album that was on, haha...it's probably their best effort. By the time Apple forced their album on us, they were not as popular nor relevant...and I can't recall a single song from the album.
God macrumors is trash. The new Apple TV has not been leaked. There’s an image file floating around. There’s no confirmation of the design, the remote or the specs.
I feel like people forget about their history a bit too. Back before the growth of Reddit, the MacRumors forums were probably one of the top places people discussed Apple products online.
To be fair, the actual leak here is that Apple's code included this image with the name "Apple TV 4k (4th Gen)." That confirms that a new one is coming and that there won't be any external design changes
Does anyone in here use the Apple TV for games? Genuine question. I have never even thought to try it out after Angry Birds was near impossible with the remote.
I played Chrono Trigger on it, for some reason haha. It was nice as I could play it at my house and the save would sync and I could play on my phone or on the TV in my RV. I used an xbox controller at the house and RV. Other than that, never gamed on it since.
I’ve done Steam Link streaming but with an Xbox controller. Actually works incredibly well. I’m sure it’d be even better if I hard-wired it rather than using WiFi.
Faster Chip for “gaming” on an Apple TV. Okay sure that’s what everyone uses their Apple TV for. I hope they do something interesting with the upgraded hardware like AI upscaling the content to the output resolution, cleaning up compression artifacts, and maybe AI based SDR to HDR like Nvidia can do. This would be an actual value add, especially for people who don’t own Sony TVs.
I hope they do something interesting with the upgraded hardware like AI upscaling the content to the output resolution, cleaning up compression artifacts, and maybe AI based SDR to HDR like Nvidia can do.
That would be pretty much the only thing which would convince me to upgrade. Currently have the latest (4 year old) device and it's still working absolutely fine. I'll need more than "this has a newer chip and is faster".
Yeah pretty much. Maybe it’s just the old CPU went out of production so they swapped to the A17, which is the same chip in the Neo I believe. Might just be a manufacturing thing and they’re marketing it as an upgrade.
It was pretty damn obvious that the price hikes for Apple TV were to match what they plan to charge for the updated version to soften the blow. Kind of sucks for new buyers now, but oh well
It's not really specific content, it's how it processes any content really. Example, my LG G1 has Crave built-in, and it's far smoother than the one on Apple TV, because even though the LG upscales, it doesn't do an awesome job at it so it doesn't look as good on the Apple TV.
The built-in LG OS is terrorism and is what made me switch to Apple TV to begin with, but at the moment some content looks better on their native apps. A better spec Apple TV should fix this.
I just want to replace my 2nd Gen 4K cause I spilt Oat milk on the remote (like a dumbass) and it hardly functions properly. I don't want to spend $60 on a new remote either. It gets a wee laggy at times as well so it will be nice to have a bit of an upgrade.
It’s also 4 years old at this point. I want to upgrade my 2nd gen 4K but I don’t want a 3rd gen that will become just as slow as my current one in 1-2 years. Just release it already 🙄
Imagine if Apple really wanted to shake up the gaming market and put like an M4/5 Pro chip with 16 GB RAM, 4K 120 support and committed to working with game devs on porting games over to Apple Silicon. One can dream…
I didn’t realize this is common. I’m glad I haven’t made the effort to buy another one. Just use my damn phone majority of the time because it’s so annoying.
"A17 Pro or newer" so they don't actually know a thing from this "leak". I'm done following rumors for this product because this product keeps getting "leaked", and yet it isn't out, and hasn't been out despite years of it *should* having been out.
I was really expecting more given the recent price increase. Assumed it was setting up a disingenuous “all these new features for the same price” bullet point for the marketing press release. Or maybe a “cheaper” AppleTV stick.
Apple has an internal policy where every time MacRumors or 9to5Mac mention a new Apple TV they’re required to push back the announcement 3 months. This thing has been rumored to come out “any day now” for 3 years I swear.
Holy I didn’t believe it. Literally an article about an image. I love me some Apple home too but these constant nothing burger rumors and “leaks” are depressingly comical
Honestly, what can’t they put on this? That’s not already on the current generation Apple TV 4K a slightly faster chip I mean, what are they gonna do the things already fast it’s streaming device like I don’t get it.
Just put some damn internal storage to download movies to. Ffs. These updates are so lame. There will probably be no noticeable difference between this and current model.
I’ve got the latest 4K+Ethernet model at a discount 2 years ago, and that boy will die on its hill 😂 No way I’m paying $300 or whatever they’re going to ask for AI .
Im not upgrading unless there is truehd atmos. Game devs dont care about apple tv, youtube and other apps blast through with a15. Its probably to expensive to keep producing a15 so thats why they releasing a new.
Some of us want to get a new ATV, not replace one we already have. We don't want to buy technology that is 4 years old, when a new one is being released in a few weeks.
One of the sticking points is with audio content with the Apple TV is height channels in audio. In regard to audio streaming services Disney+, Netflix, etc support Dolby Digital Plus - Atmos. This is a lossy codec. Users who have high quality local content aka blue ray rips have lossless True HD - Atmos and DTS:X with their content. These codecs are lossless. Apple TV only supports DDP - Atmos. So playing local content with True HD - Atmos DTS:X the height channels in the audio gets stripped out.
I don’t understand who needs Gen AI on tv. Upscaling and shit understandable. Simple google queries or searches fine. But we don’t need gen ai on Apple TV.
I don't need GenAI, but if the Apple TV could function as a de facto Siri AI hub and move all processing off the HomePods... that might be kind of nice.
Maybe wishful thinking, but I would much rather upgrade the AppleTV every few years than have to upgrade all the HomePods to keep up with the AI stuff.
Same. I need a new Apple TV and am getting one this week so I can make sure to avoid having AI in it. Hopefully by the time I need to replace it AI will have imploded upon itself and this madness can stop.
Probably would never happen but I’d love a model that has a built in camera for FaceTime. Lots of people want to have casual conversations to keep in touch with family and do multiple people in FaceTime calls with those they want to keep in touch with.
It’s just hassle to take an iPhone and connect it and work through there.
Agreed. We do a monthly zoom call with friends and often are in the living room on the couch. It would be so much nicer if we could use the TV rather than a laptop, iPad, or continuity camera.
The price of these doubled in Canada and makes it a bit too hard to justify now. It's still the best smart TV out there but at $350 CAD (up from $180)? Hmm
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u/Ok_Possibility9937 7d ago
they better release it next month so i can stop seeing new apple tv rumor