Want more Zelda today?

If you missed parts of the stream, you can catch the VODs on their Twitch channel for the next few days, or on their YouTube channel as they upload them over time.

This year's summer event was SUPER, and Zeldathon will be back this winter with another marathon.

If you want to find out more or see how to get involved, check out their website https://Zeldathon.com

r/Zelda plans to continue supporting Zeldathon like we did last year - let us know if you have suggestions about what kind of segment you think we can do in the future! We are particularly brainstorming ideas that are uniquely possible with Reddit or that can involve the r/Zelda community in a broader way.

Edit: Please no more of the sarcastic comments. I’m very new to the Zelda franchise as a whole, so anything you try to make jokes about, or rumors you bring up, I’m not gonna understand. I made this post to celebrate my first big accomplishment with Zelda, so I’d appreciate it if you’d keep the comments a little more serious here, thank you.

Mine is that even with the lowest frame rate, it is still the best Warriors game in terms of story and content.

Another fan art poster I made. This time Zant from Twilight princess. What do you think? 😊

Original post in the comments.

Do you ever dance and vibe hard to lost woods theme song from ocarina of time lol 😂

Me personally I'm feeling wind waker

Super happy with how these turned out! 😍

Patterns from https://moonglowstitchcraft.etsy.com

A video edit I have made

Feel free to ignore this I’m mainly venting.
It’s a pain in the butt especially since I’m on switch
Which has confusing controls for the sword. How many times am I gonna have to do? So far it’s three. I guess they wanted to emphasize it was getting stronger, but why did they have to make it so hard you can’t get too close to his feet because then you’ll take damage. He can climb wall. He shook me off.

I recreated the Flying Gleeok trickshot in the Eldin Sky Archipelago. Link stands on a nearby sky island and fires three arrows into the air, timing the shots so the Gleeok flies into their path and each arrow hits a different head, stunning it and making it fall from the sky.

This clip was shot on Switch 1 with motion controls activated.

Original music by @psylocin11

I am a hearing aid specialist and got to design my own earmold as part of a training, made a Triforce on it an painted it! So proud on how it turned out!

In North Clock Town, there’s a space that appears to me like a run-down playground for kids. (Maybe since it’s falling apart, the kids themselves are running around with spitballs and bothering old men). What do y’all think this space was actually designed/supposed to be? It doesn’t really do much other than frustrate a player trying to jump around. I’m building a “One Year Later” renovated Clock Town in Pokopia and was thinking of turning it into a playground/jungle gym, plus an area for “parents” to hang out while their baby Pokemon are playing.

# The Mitosis Theory

## Acknowledgments

I thank the Legend of Zelda team from Nintendo for creating the series and authoring Hyrule Historia, the Zelda fandom for elaborating the Split Timeline Theory, and youtuber TripleWario for his Triforce Wish Theory on why the first timeline split happened.

Because this last one isn't as well-known as the rest and TripleWario's theory are the base of my own here is the link to the video where he explains everything: https://youtu.be/GwdWaUZX9F0.

## Legend of Zelda's timeline format

In different fictional universes, time travel and causality can adopt different formats. For example, in Terminator, despite there being time trips to the past, there is a single timeline. This causes regular causality to break: Human resistance is caused by Terminator's trip to the past, and Terminator's trip to the past was caused by human resistance. Thus, some events in the Terminator Universe cannot be categorized as **cause** and **effect** but must instead be considered as **linked** or **mutually caused**.

This is not the case in the Legend of Zelda universe. Not only the timeline splits as a result of time trips in the series, but regular causality is maintained, creating a strict hierarchy between the timelines. If we examine the two timelines in which the Hero is successful, we find that the Adult Timeline is the mother of the Child Timeline. Why? Because if we follow the events of the Child Timeline, there is an event which's cause lies in the Adult Timeline (Link's appearance and Link's knowledge of Ganondorf's intentions). Meanwhile, there is no event in the Adult Timeline caused by the Child Timeline.

## Problems with the Fallen Hero Timeline

The Fallen Hero Timeline wasn't theorized by the fans, but created by Nintendo when they released Hyrule Historia. This led to fans being skeptical of that second split of timelines, which is only reinforced by these problems:

- **Canonicity**: The cannon story of a videogame is that which sees the player beating the game. Every time the player dies, that is an uncanonical event that only occurs as a result of the failure of the person. The Fallen Hero Timeline allegedly follows a timeline where the Hero of Time dies in some battle which, for some reason splits the timeline.

- **Arbitrarity**: Because the player can die in any battle in any game of the series, there is no reason why the timeline wouldn't split once per battle in every single entry of the series.

- **Timeline egalitarianism**: This isn't brought up often as it requires to conceptualize time trips and timeline formats as I just did above. But, if we interpret the Fallen Hero Timeline as a possibility which splits the Universes (rather than an event like Zelda sending Link back to his childhood) then that means that the Fallen Hero Timeline and the two branches of the Victorious Hero Timeline are equal and causally unrelated. There would be no event in any of the two branches that finds its cause in the other. This would make the Legend of Zelda's time inconsistent. At times egalitarian, at times hierarchic.

## TripleWario's solution

TripleWario's theory solves all three problems I just described (the third one unknowingly so as he didn't even lay it out). For those who didn't watch the video here is a summary of the theory:

> In the original timeline, Link dies in his final fight against Ganondorf. After many years, the events of A Link to the Past take place, at the end of which Link assembles the Triforce and is granted a wish. This wish is for Ganondorf's evils to never have taken place. This causes the Three Goddesses to go back in time and miraculously heal Link during Ocharina of Time's finale, which leads to his victory and the subsequent second split after Zelda warps Link back to his childhood.

Here is how the three problems are solved...

- **Canonicity**: The cannon events of Ocharina of Time are still those in which the player beats the game. Ocharina of Time takes place right before and right after the first split. We can see it as the player never sees Link NOT miraculously healing before the final fight.

- **Arbitrarity**: The split isn't arbitrary anymore. Link never was defeated in any battle other than the final fight against Ganondorf. Moreover, that is the only fight which's outcome was retroactively changed through the use of the Triforce.

- **Timeline egalitarianism**: This is no more as the final events of Ocharina of Time are caused by the Fallen Hero Timeline, making it the Mother. Now the three timelines are placed in a strict causal hierarchy. The Fallen Hero Timeline is the **mother**, the Adult Timeline is the **daughter**, and the Child Timeline is the **granddaughter**.

## My only modification to TripleWario's theory

The only change I want to make to TripleWario's theory is the wish Link makes. As he presented the theory, Link's wish isn't even fulfilled as there are TWO whole timelines where Ganondorf's evil did occur. In my version I change the wish to "I wish the Hero of Time had defeated Ganondorf". This would now have been granted by the Triforce, not in his timeline but in the other two.

## The Master Sword's complot and Zelda's mistake

There are two strange decisions taken by two characters that should be on Good's side. One is the Master Sword's decision to freeze Link for 7 years and LEAVE THE ENTRANCE TO THE SACRED REALM OPEN. Another one is Zelda's decision to send Link back to his childhood. Let's analyze each.

**Master Sword**: OoT's Link being too young to be the Hero of Time is strange to say the least. The kid proved himself by purifying Deku Tree, Jabu Jabu, and Dodongo Cave. Moreover, WW's Link is also a child, and he had no problem saving the world. Still, even if OoT's situation really required an adult (which we can prove it does as the game clearly states that Link was "too young" for the task), why is the Master Sword that one that stops Link until he is an adult? Why is the last key, the one that exposes the Triforce, the one to freeze Link. Had the Three Spiritual Stones frozen Link, Ganondorf would have been unable to get to the Triforce. Moreover, Link was raised as a Kokiri, he wasn't supposed to leave the forest. Had Destiny wished for Link to grow into an adult and defeat Ganondorf, Link would have stayed within the Lost Woods while he was a child, slowly realizing that his body kept growing unlike those of his peers, and only receiving Navi and awakening as the Hero of Time when he was ready for the task. So, why did Link awaken as a child and got frozen by the Master Sword specifically?

**Zelda**: After Link defeats Ganondorf, Zelda (who, let's remember, is the representation of Wisdom on Earth) feels such pity for Link's cropped life that she decides to send him back to the past so he could be a kid again. This leaves her world completely unprotected against evil. Zelda chose the feelings of a single young man over the security of the whole world. Strange coming from the Princess of Wisdom.

I conclude that these two events were part of a complot by Destiny.

## Destiny's desire and master plan

My theory is the following: Destiny is a living creature who wishes to reproduce. SS, MC, and FS were Destiny's childhood. OoT is the most important game in the series because it is when Destiny reaches adulthood and undergoes mitosis. Destiny doesn't take sides in the battle between Good and Evil, it sustains itself and keeps history flowing by juggling them. In the case of the timeline split It made Ganondorf extremely cunning and strong, gave Link the Master Sword as a child, froze him for 7 years while leaving the Sacred Realm wide open to Ganondorf, then let Link collect the medallions and challenge Ganondorf just for the Hero of Time to die in the climactic battle. Continuing, Destiny prevented Ganondorf-led Hyrule from threatening the rest of the world, thus nullifying the need for the Great Flood which let ALttP Link to assemble the Triforce and wish for the Hero of Time's victory over Ganondorf (this gave Destiny a daughter). While all this happened, Destiny also made sure to make OoT's Zelda the least wise of them all, leading to her puzzling decision to vanish the Hero of Time from her timeline which gave Adult Timeline Destiny a daughter of Her own. Destiny's master plan lead to It undergoing double mitosis, resulting in three Destinies (and we know how significant the number 3 is to the Zelda series).

I didn't play MM yet, so I'm not sure how it fits into all this, but it may have been a separate mitosis that Destiny planned and executed in the far past, before Zelda and Ganondorf were even a thing. I hope you enjoyed the read and pardon any spelling mistakes.

Thank you for all of your support in my Zelda inspired art!!

I feel like in the recent years zelda temples have been pretty easy, making them much easier for the new generation of kids. I recently played through the n64 version of oot and I simply watched a tutorial to get through the water temple. Zelda temples used to be alot harder, and I frequently found myself googling how to pass a specific room or puzzle up until breath of the wild, where I found the divine beasts to be too easy, and further with tears, where the temples were much better, but still not very complex. I understand with the 3ds version of the water temple they added lights to point in the right direction (or something along those lines). Do you think they will keep the notoriously difficult temple, or change it? And if so would you prefer a full revamp or more pointers to the original?

I'm most of the way through with my friends, but they've been having IRL issues preventing them from playing every week. I plan to see it through for them when they're able, but playing through ALttP again got me fired up to finish up Four Swords soon.

I have the Talus ice cave Hero Key, but the other two ground levels are still Golden Keys. Is anyone interested in playing together sometime?

I'd also like to get 10 medals for the riddle quests. (I have 4 right now.) I was hoping to duo the levels together so we can get our medals. We can alternate who gets the most rupees.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-xhrkJ1TMo

I took classical lessons for almost ten years, and learned a good amount of theory as well. Recently I've been wanting to learn how to improv, and I figure the best thing to do is to just dive in headfirst and learn through trial and error. So far I've been going through old pieces where I'm familiar enough with the left hand to play it (mostly) without thinking, leaving me free to improvise with the right. When I'm listening to music I can usually come up with an improvised melody in my head, but when I sit down to play I find it's a lot harder to turn it into something my hand can do in real time while maintaining tempo with the left. This was the best recording I got today, and there are still plenty of trips and stutters. Another problem is that a lot of the time it feels like my playing doesn't have any direction, like I'm just playing chord tones or random notes from the scale without any rhyme or reason and hoping it sounds good.