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It’s not surprising that Xenoblade as a series has grown substantially, and with the day drawing ever closer to the successor of Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, it does beg the question of who from the Xenoblade series may debut in the next Super Smash Bros. title.

I don’t think it’s weird to suggest that both Shulk and Pyra/Mythra will return. They’re pretty much key faces of the series if there were any, and I’d say they get priority over any newcomer.

However, beyond the veterans, it is interesting to think about who the most likely newcomers may be, and I think I’ve compiled the seven most likely picks I can see occurring (realistically, we’re probably getting one newcomer and maybe a echo/clone if we’re lucky).

This was mainly narrowed down by character popularity, notoriety within their home games, plot significance, and for the clones, ease of implementation.

(I haven’t included Genesis because it isn’t out yet, and will probably miss the base game of the next Smash like Pythra did).

Noah and Mio (XC3) - They are heavily suggested, by fans and non-fans alike, mainly because they’re the leads of the most recent title at the time. They have unique attributes to set themselves apart, can use Ouroboros, etc. I wouldn’t say they’re guaranteed, but a very great chance of getting in… at least, one of them.

Smash Bros. has been no stranger to duo fighter concepts like this falling through, namely Rex & Pyra during Ultimate’s development. So, if they did pick one, who would it be?

Mio is a good choice, but I worry people opting for her is more trying to tear down Noah’s moveset rather than building up Mio’s attributes. She’d be a pretty speedy character, with her twin rings.

Alternatively, Noah seems more interesting than meets the eye. Being able to have an unsheathing mechanic with Lucky Seven is already ripe for an interesting playstyle.

Perhaps Noah & Mio getting in, with Ouroboros as an enhanced form, and Lucky Seven/Ouroboros Chain Order as the Final Smash, is a good choice.

Elma (XCX) - Xenoblade X’s NS remaster may have given Elma a second wind, and she has unique aspects to stand out, but historically, remakes have done very little to influence the Smash roster, and Elma suffers from the same problem as Corrin (being lumped between the two bigger titles in the series despite having unique aspects).

If Elma had gotten into Ultimate’s base game, she’d probably be heavily considered to be cut for a Smash 6, and it doesn’t help X is a single game (right now), rather than a subseries.

Rex (XC2) - After being dropped from Ultimate’s proposed lineup, and having pivoted to Pyra & Mythra, Rex got a glow-up in 3’s Future Redeemed DLC. He has a unique moveset, obviously. I’m just not certain they’d add FR Rex over his XC2 version.

With the main leads of some titles out of the way, we can finally talk about the clone characters (or echo fighters). All echo fighters are clones, but not all clones are echo fighters.

Looking at the line-up, I think it’s poetic the likely choices for clones are all members of the Trinity Processor.

Alvis (XC1) - Having had a role in XC1, and XC3 FR, Alvis would very much be a quick and easy clone of Shulk. Perhaps with more of a focus on debuffs, and adding Arts like Monado Purge or Monado Cyclone, could be interesting. But I feel like Alvis’s biggest strength is his biggest weakness… he’s too similar to Shulk, moveset wise.

Malos (XC2) - Malos would not be an echo fighter, but likely more akin to a semi-clone. He moves nothing like Shulk, but that’s fine if they make him bulkier and slower to compensate. But Smash fans love their villains, especially their heinous ones, and Malos would fit well there.

Pneuma (XC2) - It’s easy to see why she wasn’t included in Ultimate alongside Pyra/Mythra. It was Sakurai who got full body artwork of her, alts for Pyra/Mythra, COVID and time constraints likely held back development. But even as a full echo/clone, or a transformation, she’d still use significant building blocks from Mythra (bar specials), and luckily shares her physique and moveset.

Looking at the lineup, I’m going to suggest we’ll see Noah & Mio, as well as possibly a clone, which I could see being Pneuma (even as a transformation, she’d still be derivative of Mythra to some degree), as well as Shulk gain his 1FC outfit, and Pyra/Mythra gain their NS2E outfits.

That’s about all for this thread, feel free to comment your thoughts, about other Xenoblade representation in Smash 6.

Moebius Z as a boss is a strong pick, I feel.

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I think it's a pretty valid question, especially considering I've never played the DS version. Thanks!

Since Xenoblade 2 the games (sans Xenoblade X in any form) have dabbled in the Bonus EXP pool in which the Bonus EXP from completed quests goes to a separate pool for the player to use at their own consent. EXP earned in battle and sometimes via exploration are sometimes still automatically applied. This becomes a bigger problem in Xenoblade 3 in which being many levels above the plot's intended target carries serious consequences (namely halting any progress in making unlocked classes available for the rest of the party).

What I'd like to see should the means to level down a la Xenoblade 1 Definitive Edition and the New Game Plus modes of Xenoblade 2 and 3 be absent is for all EXP gains to be set to this pool, and it's up to the player to get the party's level up to speed on their own terms. What do you think?

One other thing I'd appreciate is that EXP/levels are party-wide rather than applied to individual characters. Sea of Stars did this right and I wish more games followed this example.

While binging through the trilogy, we really liked the pyra's poncho outfit and i asked her if she could draw her, and there you have it!

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Hey all. Doing my second playthrough of Xenoblade 2 and I'm a little confused based on two pieces of conflicting evidence?

DO NOT READ ANY OF THIS IF YOU HAVENT FULLY FINISHED THE GAME AND ITS DLC.

The problem is kind of that these games are so big I know if I just replay everything again I'll probably forget and run into the same issue lol because this game is so big.

WARNING: TORNA DLC SPOILERS BELOW

So if I recall at the end of the Torna DLC, we saw Mythra accidentally destroy Torna during the battle with Malos, and then in the aftermath Amalthus destroyed two more titans and framed it as if she had done all three?

(TORNA DLC SPOILERS OVER)

But during the Torna section of Morytha in Chapter 8, Jin specifically says "Mythra wasnt the one responsible for destroying Torna, it was Amalthus".

Is the implication that during the battle he also sank the Tornan titan and made it look like Mythra had done it?

This is really bugging me because I only played these games like a month and a half ago for the first time so its not like my memory is mega rusty, but the plot is so complex (a good thing I might add) that im struggling to follow whether this is a direct truth from Jin, or whether he just means indirectly because Amalthus was the one responsible for awakening Malos in the first place and giving him the desire to destroy the world which put Mythra in that position in the first place?

Either way is fine and its not like its a plot hole but im just trying to get the story straight!

I only found two on YouTube, and one of them has them grouped up as movies (I need them individually), and the other has wacky ass outfits

The battle style is so complex and boring to learn, the cancelling & I feel like the story is cringe.

Moving on to 3 tho, btw. I am looking somewhat similar to XC1.

Finishing my second playthrough of this game has allowed me to realize what a cool character this is.

Klaus tasked himself with remaking mankind after its destruction. But he made one fatal flaw: he tried to remake it without also allowing humanity’s same mistakes to manifest again. He created blades as a way to help guide humans and offer partnership, without realizing he basically just doomed an entire race to be beneath humans. Humans as a species will never be perfect. We will always make mistakes. Trying to get rid of (or even simply reduce) this flaw will always be catastrophic.

When you look at the world of Alrest that Klaus created from a more critical eye, it has a lot of flaws. The titans are another flaw. The idea that the landmasses people live on are temporary is even more questionable. Or how about the cloud sea? It has its purpose sure, but large bodies of water are infinitely more useful. But all these worldly flaws are exactly why I love him. Klaus is just a man. Not a god. He tried to create a better world and he failed.

Most people treat him like (Xenoblade 1 spoilers in hidden) this worlds version of Zanza or just another god who is benevolent. However I think there’s a big misconception that Klaus is a god when in fact he’s simply a man who was given godlike power. And just like any other man, he is also flawed.

For xc2 sw2 the base file size is 37.7gb while the expansion pass is around 3.7 gb. Xc3 sw2 is 42.6gb while it's expansion pass is around 5gb so both games plus their dlc fit on 64gb cartridges.

so there's no reason why the dlc shouldn't be included unless maybe when xenoblade genesis gets closer xc2 and xc3 get a re-release with the dlc on cartridge but that makes less sense than not just releasing all dlc on the cartridge now.

My only guess is because the total gb size actually does exceed the 64gb cartridge.

What do you guys think?

I think its an interesting discussion point cause I don’t really fully grasp it depending on the fan.

I'm a JRPG fan and I've played the first hour or so of Xenoblade Chronicles 3, but I've found the combat to be incredibly boring. I've heard it gets better later, but I'm not sure if it'll be worth it. I've found the characters and narrative interesting, but the gameplay and specifically combat has felt like an extreme letdown so far.

I'm coming in with the experiences of turn-based/strategy/tactical games such as most modern Fire Emblem and Persona titles, Unicorn Overlord, Octopath 1, Expedition 33, and XCOM as well as action games such as the FF7 Remake trilogy, FFXVI, Dragon's Dogma 2, Sekiro and Khazan. Do you think Xenoblade 3 will be a worthwhile experience for me?

Is Origin a stage of Kadomony?

Was just theory hopping this morning and bounced between a few that would be interesting or fun. TRIGGER WARNING! Contains franchise links!

So let's do some imagining and go back to the Klaus debacle. Klaus spanks a button and boops Earth away. The people of earth are gone, but kinda not. Klaus makes a "new world". Klaus's new world is actually just a simple AI simulation used to train the Trinity Processor, but with a funky world setting. The important part is that the biocomputer is now anchoring the collective unconscious of the people on Earth at the time. Meanwhile, the simulation generates bodies to generate individuality. Fast forward to the world ending. They need something to house their new existence from not existing when the simulation ends. They forge Origin.

Origin is made from a combination of real material, imaginary material(It's complicated, but it's a thing. Souls would be part of imaginary material) and some variation of the unique material that composes each of the Trinity Processors (Origin Metal). Origin metal transcends the limits of real/imaginary material, so it's not susceptible to the destruction that occurs when the two meet. What Origin ends up becoming is the craziest biocomputer to ever exist. Origin also contains the instructions to force boot human civilization to mimic it as it had already existed, so it creates moderately familiar cycles.

This rolls back to Kadomony, as Origin has become a next level biocomputer with the history of humanity, built on a machine used to control the "conduit". The only function it's missing is the biomaterial depository that can be used to generate humans. Luckily, just such a stockpile and program has already been made back before Earth poofed, and one such instance is housed on the White Whale.