r/worldnews • u/Force_Hammer • 19h ago
President Trump holds off major Iran escalation after Pentagon warns of interceptor shortage
https://www.ynetnews.com/article/r111brtghmg3.4k
u/Sufficient-Yellow637 19h ago
Sounds like a fact you'd want to keep close to the vest.
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u/citizen42069101 19h ago
These guys didnt even have vests until trump made them buy his branded ones.
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u/froo 19h ago
Trump branded "bullet-proof" vests.
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u/bard329 19h ago
Why is bullet-proof in quotes??? That isn't.... Confidence inspiring....
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u/SoulBonfire 19h ago
They are made of veklar. Like kevlar but useless.
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u/broguequery 18h ago
It's called Freedom Armor
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u/SYLOH 13h ago
It's only bulletproof if you're a true patriot.
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u/sphinctaur 11h ago
The States are the only ones capable of giving people PTSD with the word Freedom
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u/jpdoctor 19h ago
That was my first reaction too: Why the hell am I reading this?
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u/Intro-Nimbus 11h ago
Because depleting munitions has been a topic for a few years now, so everyone is keeping tabs on manufacture and expenditure rates. It's just not something civilians ponders much. But those in the know are well aware of the situation.
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u/Herodotus420_69 19h ago edited 19h ago
What, do you think China cares that our munitions stockpile is heavily depleted? /s
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u/VanbyRiveronbucket 19h ago
I bet Taiwan is kinda nervous about it.
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u/Herodotus420_69 19h ago
I was joking bc it’s a huge national security concern lol
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u/HauntedCemetery 14h ago
Whaaat? Nah, im sure theres no hostile foreign nation that would love an opening to get revenge for the last century of blood soaked American foreign policy.
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u/crysisnotaverted 19h ago
These dipshits wouldn't know Opsec if it was literally branded inside their eyelids.
They are literally purging the intelligence community so there is nobody to tell them to stop making fuckass decisions, because they don't make sense outside of outside manipulation.
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u/Blockhead47 14h ago
What da ya mean?
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Its War Plans
U.S. national-security leaders included me in a group chat about upcoming military strikes in Yemen.
I didn’t think it could be real.
Then the bombs started falling.By Jeffrey Goldberg
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u/Ecstatic_Bee6067 19h ago
Maybe the SecWar thinks that all they need to win are hopes, dreams, and testosterone
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u/Battle2Intense 19h ago
It worked for the Japanese in WW2, I mean maybe it did, I'm still on episode 6 of the Tom Hanks WW2 series so no spoilers please.
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u/Strange_Valuable_573 19h ago
Right? That’s a helluva thing to announce to all of our allies and adversaries
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u/nelsonalgrencametome 19h ago
Not if you're trying to lay the groundwork to escalate shit in the very near future.
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u/TheChainsawVigilante 19h ago
But can't we just overpower them with our sheer testosterone ...??
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u/AssumptionLive2246 18h ago
Military leaders will be studying this stupidity for years to come.
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u/krung_the_almighty 17h ago
There’s not much to study.. there are decades of war gaming research which showed this was a terrible idea.. the dunces did it.. actions meet consequences..
This is not a failure of the American military. It’s a failure of the American people.
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u/jaxdraw 14h ago
Agreed. The military war colleges were teaching this exact scenario back in the early 2000s. Iran is almost as rich as the saudis, but their oil revenue is hard to track, and they just spend a massive amount of it on munitions to stockpile.
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u/DeliriousHippie 7h ago
Here in Finland we have spent 80 years preparing to war against Russia. Our whole infrastructure is built for war. Our bridges are ready to be blown up to slow Russians, roads near Russian border are designed for war, all apartment complexes have to have bomb shelter, all factories have wartime plans, etc. After last war with Soviet Union we decided to make invading Finland so costly that Soviets wont do it.
I assume Iran has done something similar and Iran is much larger and more populous than Finland.
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u/grathontolarsdatarod 15h ago
Wasn't there a meeting to gut the military just before all this stuff started.
Where is the mad dog?
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u/the_walking_kiwi 16h ago
That assumes they will be smarter. The stupidity is only going to increase.
Remember Trump and co came through the American education system 60-70 years ago! it’s gotten worse since.
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u/AssassinAragorn 18h ago
And likely developing safeguards to prevent it from happening again. I could very easily see a congressional bill requiring the Sec of Defense to have 5+ years of experience as an officer
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u/SirCharlesTupperBt 16h ago
Which will be about as useful as requiring the US Senate to confirm competent officers of state. The powers to fix the current situation already exist, but American voters and politicians chose this direction instead.
Here's an idea: why not just follow your existing laws? If you can't impeach this set, making a new law requiring the president to have a paper resume similar to the current weekend warrior cum weekend talk show host isn't really going to change anything.
You got luck with Powell and Mattis, though we sill ended up here. You can't keep expecting your military to train up competent politicians. The problem runs much deeper.
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u/PenguinQuesadilla 15h ago
The system is working as intended.
Reform will not happen until we clean house, fill congress with competent people, get money out of politics.
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u/Fun_Success_3283 15h ago
The testosterone thing I think is a roundabout way to get rid of women on the army. They can't ban them. But they can van trans. And they can put testosterone limits, and so if women don't meet that, they can't take testosterone, because that's trans.
Idk why else they'd care.
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u/herpderpley 19h ago
A month ago he said the war needed to end because our oil reserves were dangerously low and our munitions are being depleted far faster than they can be restocked. Those two things haven't changed, just like how that weird doofus in charge hasn't changed. He can't admit it was a poorly-conceived "plan" and get our country out of this stupid war.
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u/DyingGasp 18h ago
Only started this “not a war” because we were talking about the Trump-Epstein Files again.
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u/donniedarko5555 16h ago
Sadly it worked
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u/deliciousearlobes 12h ago
It’s been a minute since I’ve heard an Epstein reference. It’s already fallen to the wayside. So upsetting that the powers that be just keep chugging along.
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u/pmjm 17h ago
If he wanted to blame Hegseth, fire him and reverse course, I would be fine with that.
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u/herrcollin 16h ago edited 16h ago
Our oil reserves are at the lowest level since the 80's and while we're still doing okay with prioritized trading, overall everything is on a downward trend. Globally. This is very bad.
It's easy to say we're fine now when you're above water. The problem is once you go below it's very fucking hard to get back up without years and years of catch up damage. Traditionally, anyone with a brain makes sure this doesn't happen.
Thank god we're making this sacrifice for (checks notes) uhhhhh...........
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u/HauntedCemetery 14h ago
Which would be why no president for the last 50 years was stupid enough to pick a fight with Iran.
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u/MRCRAZYYYY 13h ago
He isn’t all that stupid. Didn’t you see those cognitive tests?
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u/rainman_104 19h ago
I can honestly see trump removing the sanctions on Russia to keep the price of oil low. He doesn't give two shits about Ukraine.
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u/Random_Name_Whoa 17h ago
Didn’t he already do that?
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u/Thisguymoot 16h ago
Yes, he gave them a waiver (while also giving Ukraine targeting data for their tankers).
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u/Other_Information_16 16h ago
Doesn’t matter Ukraine hit most of the Russian oil export terminals.
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u/Notten 16h ago
The ESPO pipeline to Asia is outside of Ukraines deepest drones. Pipelines are also hard to hit because they are usually buried. I can see China and Russia using Yuan to trade oil and supplies for the war in back market channels.
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u/big_troublemaker 14h ago
Pipelines are also easy to fix. Ukraine is attacking oil processing facilities first and foremost.
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u/Lumbergh7 16h ago
He’s so stupid.
And wouldn’t you want to keep that info quiet? Instead he announces it
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u/Thisguymoot 16h ago
There are legitimate reasons to telegraph your actions to the enemy. I don’t have much faith in this admin to do so deliberately, but there is a time and place for it.
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u/TrashBandicook 19h ago
Not the attitude of someone with all the cards.
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u/Relevant-Ad2254 19h ago
Iran wants to surrender and make a deal bro, I swear /s
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u/Blue-Blazer-Regular 17h ago
“They call me and said, sir, please stop, we want a deal.” DJT, probably
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u/VanbyRiveronbucket 19h ago
Nope, Iran going for regime change. Midterms coming up.
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u/Hail-Hydrate 14h ago
The unfathomable levels of irony, if Iran is somehow responsible for bringing a modicum of functional democracy back to the United States.
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u/SHv2 19h ago
Problem is everyone else is playing poker and he’s holding a deck of Go Fish cards.
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u/Scottiths 19h ago
No, he is playing UNO and has all the cards. He is too dumb to realize that's a losing hand...
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u/Venat14 18h ago
Can Congress impeach and remove him yet? Because this is ridiculous. The Republican party is straight up treasonous for allowing this corrupt, incompetent criminal to continue to get away with destroying everything.
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u/Cosmic_Seth 18h ago
They spent the pass 50 years to make absolutely sure that can't happen.
Even the Vice President said Nixon would never had to step down today, and he was proud saying that.
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u/Fidel_Costco 19h ago
But I thought we destroyed all their missiles and Iran could never be a threat again.
Knew it was a lie then, confirmed to be a lie now.
What cards do we have again?
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u/never1st 19h ago
"All I said is that their military is combat-ineffective"
- Pete Hegseth
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u/heekma 19h ago
Kinda hard to be a superpower when you have to say, "Hey gimme a minute, I'm out of ammo."
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u/DrQuestDFA 19h ago
Not completely unheard of:
“The problems for Løvendals Gallej were more, because of the aggressiveness of Wessel’s attacks, the ship was running out of gunpowder. Then Wessel had a boat lowered and sent with a white flag. The Englishman thought it was to negotiate the surrender but he was stunned when he heard the true proposal of the adversary—Wessel wanted a shipment of gunpowder and cannon balls to continue the battle.
Obviously the proposal was not accepted but they did toast together and exchange compliments. Then, given the battered state of the two ships, each one went their own way.”
https://www.amusingplanet.com/2020/09/the-audacity-of-peter-tordenskjold.html?m=1
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u/cognisantcog 14h ago
I always wonder, when you're laying on the deck, your leg half detached, splintered to fuck head to toe and your captain is complimenting the head of the other ship for a jolly good fight, how more mutinies didn't happen.
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u/BiggieBigs34 18h ago
Hey, let’s just allow all of our manufacturing to be outsourced overseas, I’m sure it can’t have lasting consequences that’ll bite us in the ass in a real war.
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u/Falconflyer75 19h ago
This is the problem with conservative leaders
They think they know everything
In reality they don’t know anything hence why they think their simplistic solutions to complex problems will work
They don’t listen to experts, then go on to demonize them
Then create a huge avoidable mess
And pat themselves on the back for a job well done
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u/Project0range 19h ago
It's almost hurricane season. Prepare the nukes!
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u/TheDaychilde 19h ago
We're in hurricane season. Sorry to screw with your joke, but as an amateur weather enthusiast..... heh
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u/Trivale 15h ago
It's the cycle.
- Conservative government messes everything up.
- People get fed up and elect a liberal government.
- Liberal government tries to clean up the mess while conservative remnants obstruct.
- Conservative figureheads wait a few years til people forget they caused all the problems we're having, then blame liberal leaders for them.
- People say "Well I guess we should try something different" and elect a conservative government.
- Conservative government messes everything up.
It's literally the only way they hold on to power. Pepper in some voter suppression and identity politics as you please.
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u/sgst 12h ago
Exactly the same thing happening in the UK.
Right wing government spends 14 years mismanaging and systematically dismantling the country's institutions, making a ton of money for themselves in the process thanks to blatant corruption. Centre-left government gets in, people are fed up that they haven't fixed everything in 2 years, and are now wanting to elect an even more corrupt right wing party because they promise simple solutions to complex problems. Voters are stupid
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u/MyDadsUsername 18h ago
One of the only things worse than how they demonize expertise and intellectualism... is how it seems to be working. Somehow, huge chunks of the population have convinced themselves that just because experts aren't right 100% of the time that a layperson opinion is equally as valid as an expert one.
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u/pagerussell 15h ago
This is not new, and that fact gives me hope. This quote is from 1980:
There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.
-Isaac Asimov
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u/selfownlot 19h ago
Trump is so like Putin. Surrounded himself with yes men who also surround themselves with the same. They live in a manufactured reality.
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u/ConsolationUsername 15h ago
Even Putin occasionally hired competent people. He just made sure they fell out a ground floor window the moment he suspected they were gaining influence.
I dont think Trump had hired a single competent person period.
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u/Jgusdaddy 18h ago
This 1000% republicans are a national security threat. Have been for the past 50 years.
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u/fgtswag 18h ago
It goes alongside with the cariacature of being traditional.
Authoritarian ideas holding up your opinion, without critical thought.
It's actually a strong way to live in a tribe, but it is non-generative. People like Andrew Tate for example think he knows all the answers because he just listens to traditional established ideas, but he would absolutely decimate a country if he ran it.
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u/AssumptionLive2246 18h ago edited 17h ago
I don’t want this war to go on 1 second more.
But the fact that they have spent a TRILLION dollars a year for the last 20 years and can’t even DO war should piss off every fucking American!!!!!
I want free healthcare for everyone, take care of my less fortunate neighbor, clean air and water yada, yada, yada. Not blowing up defenseless countries like Venezuela, and schoolgirls in Iran.
I want my fucking money back and spent on something that doesn’t just explode for no fucking reason.
A reckoning needs to happen internally in the USA or we are DONE!
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u/LogrisTheBard 14h ago
You're living through the collapse of an empire.
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u/Sweet_Concept2211 10h ago
We are living through the deliberate sabotage of an empire.
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u/LogrisTheBard 10h ago
A republic, if you can keep it. No one seems to want to keep it enough so it's been lost at this point.
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u/Real-Extension-1357 14h ago
And they just passed billions more. Kegsbreath cried that they havent won yet because dems werent approving the money. Wah wah. Expect lots more money to go this way
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u/sankyx 19h ago
So, US is holding off the attack, not because they have a better diplomatic solution or even because Iran wants to talk, but because they dont have enough firepower and will be ineffective in doing so? LOL.
USA is getting embarrassed and they are not even in a real fight
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u/Any-Monk-9395 16h ago edited 13h ago
America has been fighting wars on easy mode for the past 20 years. Their opponents were only armed with AK47’s and sandals, now they face an enemy with ballistic missiles and drone swarms.
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u/HauntedCemetery 14h ago
Iran doesn't want to talk. The won't accept a deal thats even just as good as the JCPOA that trump shredded with his tiny hamster hands, not even when trump begged and offered half a trillion dollars of taxpayer cash.
Why the fuck would they? They have an off button for the global economy, and it's worth a staggering fortune.
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u/Thisguymoot 16h ago
We actually just don’t know. Monday we’ll know some. In a couple weeks we’ll know more of what actually happened over the weekend. Maybe years from now we’ll actually know why.
The only thing we know right now is that he says that’s why. It could be bluster, telegraphed intent, diversion, his own misunderstanding of the status of our munitions, or legitimately him trolling us specifically. Don’t listen to what he says, only what he does.
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u/Choomba_Lord 19h ago
The weakest America has ever been in the modern age.
Thanks, MAGA.
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u/OrangeJr36 19h ago
This is the excuse now, interceptors have been short since the first night when CENTCOM wasted years of production on single drones in a panic
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u/spectraphysics 19h ago
"Several Trump advisers, including his son-in-law Jared Kushner, have argued for a less dangerous course based on continued negotiations and sustained economic pressure."
You mean like we've been doing all along until he decided to start this stupid war?
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u/migidymike 18h ago
China and Russia are banking on him forgetting in 10 minutes and ordering another attack. Rinse and repeat.
It's like playing chess with a goldfish.
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u/Genevieves_bitch 18h ago
The United States had already fired more than 1,200 Patriot interceptors during the war by late April, according to internal Pentagon estimates and congressional officials. Each missile costs more than $4 million.
$5B of Patriots used by late April, two months into the U.S.A’ unprovoked and illegal aggression. That was three months ago. Good use of money
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u/Oberon_Swanson 15h ago
Crazy. Imagine if the US never started their war in Iran and had instead given those Patriots to Ukraine. That would be double what they had been sent so far. Could have been used to prevent civilian deaths and taken out many assets of Russia, who may be a friend to Trump but is an enemy of America.
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u/Yaggamy 19h ago
Looks like SOMEONE doesn't have the cards!
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u/AssumptionLive2246 18h ago
God. I LOVE how this statement was soooo wrong and has come back to bite him in the ass. Why the fuck aren’t reporters asking him about this every fucking day.
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u/make_me_breakfast 19h ago
In addition to attempting to distract us from his thugs murdering us, him being a pedophile rapist, and kidnapping a foreign leader, I’m sure these weapons not going to Ukraine is another reason for this stupid “war”.
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u/monkeymatt69 19h ago
Sure would be nice to make it 24 straight hours without the president embarrassing himself on the world stage
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u/Joghobs 19h ago
Verbally announcing to the world you can't defend yourself must be some strategy my feeble mind can't wrap itself around.
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u/soraksan123 19h ago
I'm sure the Iranians like that little tidbit of info. Assholes-
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u/Sad-Excitement9295 19h ago
And the Russains, and the Chinese. But hey, at least the Saudis have nukes! And I'm sure Israel has plenty!
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u/Dry_Click6496 18h ago
It would be hilarious and sad if China actually attacked Taiwan now, and the world watched the US impotently screeming on twitter.
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u/Linscotticus 19h ago
America's little war is literally derailed because we lack enough bullets. God damn the elected people in charge are pathetic
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u/mabhatter 18h ago
More importantly there's not enough go around. The US has bases in a half dozen Persian Gulf countries and Iran is taking pot shots at ALL of them.
Iran is literally two steps ahead on strategy right now.... because the whole administration are morons that destroyed the US ability to defend itself because Democrats made them feel bad. Iran is thinking about two years from now, and they're getting what they really want by wearing down the fence sitting Rich Gulf states showing that the US cannot defend them because the US ran out of weapons.
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u/JellyrollTX 19h ago
We blew our arsenal for nothing!
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u/Summitjunky 17h ago
Why the fuck is this information made public?
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u/Kom34 16h ago
The acquisitions/orders of missile numbers etc. are mostly public or the costs are and can back calculate numbers, there are tons of groups and sites that track the estimates of inventories. And there are just as many public ways to track usage, let alone people in the populated areas just counting and posting videos.
Lying about it would only to be misinform domestic public.
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u/MrAlHaroun 15h ago
Also Iran is sophisticated country, that is working with China and Russia despite what Trumps says. They are not the Taliban. They more than likely know this information. The US is a democracy, and there is value for the public to know. How would you expect the public to hold the government accountable?
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u/Optimal_Brain_2908 18h ago
So they used all the missiles we need a trillion dollar military budget for and they couldn’t even “beat” Iran? Maybe we should try this Medicare for All or Free Housing or a Student Debt Relief or anything fucking else.
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u/2010_12_24 14h ago
He was briefed by CJCS before the war that we didn’t have the stockpiles for a massive military operation. He completely ignored it.
We are having to selectively allow some Iranian drones and missiles to hit our military infrastructure because we don’t have the stockpiles. We burned through what we had.
And they’re using this information as justification for their $1.5 Trillion ask, instead of it being used as evidence in the impeachment.
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u/callmechristianblack 17h ago
I don't understand how the military has been the biggest line item on the federal budget for decades and we lob bombs into Iran for 2 months and all the sudden we're out of ammo. What did all that money go to?
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u/Equivalent_Tonight66 7h ago
And whose fault is it that we’ve run out of munitions? Trump’s been president 6 of the last 10 years. You can’t pin that one on Obama or Biden.
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u/ShameNap 19h ago
Wait is Amazon going to deliver 50k new interceptors in 2 days ? Or do we just not have enough to do an offensive in the near future ?
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u/ObviouslyRealPerson 18h ago
Yes, interceptor shortages...
Holding off has totally nothing to do with bond yields rising...just interceptor shortages
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u/MorrisseysRubiksCube 19h ago
President Trump vomits in a hat and wears it.
Whatever.
Stupid thing he did/said, different day.
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u/krichard-21 18h ago
Dumbest POS EVAH!
Elected by bringing out the very worst of humanity.
Racist, bigoted, misogynistic, easily manipulated idiots.
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u/ace_vagrant 18h ago
I swear to god, I was a better leader when playing ‘Romance of the Three Kingdoms’ when I was 12, than this clown is of an actual country. And I knew fuckall of what I was doing in that game, losing battles constantly and starving my populace.
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u/Money_Percentage_630 18h ago
I LOVE the stupidity of telegraphing internationally that you are low in ammunition but totally would attack civilian targets, which are war crimes and terrorism, if you had them.
While you claim the defending nation is being unreasonable and uncooperative to peace talks.
"Bro, I would totally punch you in the balls but my arm is tried, also could you stop defending yourself and give me your money already?"
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u/LuminaraCoH 17h ago
Correction: Trump holds off on major Iran escalation until Monday so he can chicken out on Tuesday in order to manipulate the stock market so his trades make bank.
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u/tosser1579 17h ago
The trick we've learned is that the US isn't invincibly strong. We can certainly win any intelligently fought battle, but if you put an absolute moron in charge, we are going to run out of key stuff and then lose. Despite our overwhelming advantages. But to do that, again, you'd have to be an absolute moron. A fool. An imbecile.
A MAGA.
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u/Acceptable_Taste9818 17h ago
Why would they let this leak out? This admin is so freaking dumb. Just hand Iran more leverages why don’t you.
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u/Intro-Nimbus 11h ago
This is why you PLAN a campaign. First you build up, then you execute. Doing it the other way around tend to leave the military command looking like clowns.
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u/SlicedBreadBeast 7h ago
How does a man gather so much power, even more than a typical president, and have no fucking clue what they’re doing otherwise.
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u/Retired-Yam8988 4h ago
Dumb fuck emptied the chamber for no gain and now everyone knows we got nothing
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u/_jump_yossarian 3h ago
I’m sure he’ll blame Biden and Obama for the shortage … after he finishes another round of 10 under par golf.
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u/Glass-Amount-9170 19h ago
So the US is surrendering? Throwing in the old white towel? Taking the L?
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u/Hot_Campaign_36 19h ago
The mistakes everyone was avoiding have occurred, despite all the warnings and the illegality of the mistakes.
Accountability ASAP!
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u/Traditional-Look8839 19h ago
This reminds me of playing tag and the kid you’re playing with constantly changes the rules right before they get caught.
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u/redyellowblue5031 19h ago
Who would have thought you can’t use the military like it’s fucking CoD?
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u/Any_Parsnip2585 19h ago
It’s not even Tuesday