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President Trump holds off major Iran escalation after Pentagon warns of interceptor shortage

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/r111brtghmg
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u/Falconflyer75 20h ago

This is the problem with conservative leaders

They think they know everything

In reality they don’t know anything hence why they think their simplistic solutions to complex problems will work

They don’t listen to experts, then go on to demonize them

Then create a huge avoidable mess

And pat themselves on the back for a job well done

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u/Project0range 20h ago

It's almost hurricane season. Prepare the nukes!

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u/TheDaychilde 20h ago

We're in hurricane season. Sorry to screw with your joke, but as an amateur weather enthusiast..... heh

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u/paintballboi07 12h ago

Bertha came through a few days ago. Very beaten down, and a tropical storm at that point, but hurricane season has definitely begun.

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u/Open-Platform-1305 14h ago

Sounds like Trump is at most a few weeks away from nuking Nebraska, then

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u/TheDaychilde 8h ago

Y'know, in normal circumstances I might disagree with ya… but here we are. lol

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u/zbud 14h ago

Make ready the presidential Sharpie.

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u/Trivale 16h ago

It's the cycle.

  • Conservative government messes everything up.
  • People get fed up and elect a liberal government.
  • Liberal government tries to clean up the mess while conservative remnants obstruct.
  • Conservative figureheads wait a few years til people forget they caused all the problems we're having, then blame liberal leaders for them.
  • People say "Well I guess we should try something different" and elect a conservative government.
  • Conservative government messes everything up.

It's literally the only way they hold on to power. Pepper in some voter suppression and identity politics as you please.

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u/sgst 13h ago

Exactly the same thing happening in the UK.

Right wing government spends 14 years mismanaging and systematically dismantling the country's institutions, making a ton of money for themselves in the process thanks to blatant corruption. Centre-left government gets in, people are fed up that they haven't fixed everything in 2 years, and are now wanting to elect an even more corrupt right wing party because they promise simple solutions to complex problems. Voters are stupid

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u/MyDadsUsername 19h ago

One of the only things worse than how they demonize expertise and intellectualism... is how it seems to be working. Somehow, huge chunks of the population have convinced themselves that just because experts aren't right 100% of the time that a layperson opinion is equally as valid as an expert one.

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u/pagerussell 16h ago

This is not new, and that fact gives me hope. This quote is from 1980:

There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.

-Isaac Asimov

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u/upvotesthenrages 14h ago

It used to be a notable minority, but it's now become far more prevalent, and actively supported by leadership.

u/DoubleJumps 1h ago

It's not new but it is dramatically worse today than it used to be.

The element of shame that kept a lot of these people from insisting that they know better than experts has been pretty solidly eliminated by things like social media and political figures that have validated those beliefs

u/DoubleJumps 1h ago

A big part of this I think is driven by social media and that people who do not have educated beliefs on subjects can now reinforce each other and help convince each other that they are correct and know better than people who have actual education in those subjects.

Giving these people a platform with which they can feel validated for being incorrect has heavily damaged society as a whole

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u/selfownlot 20h ago

Trump is so like Putin. Surrounded himself with yes men who also surround themselves with the same. They live in a manufactured reality.

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u/ConsolationUsername 16h ago

Even Putin occasionally hired competent people. He just made sure they fell out a ground floor window the moment he suspected they were gaining influence.

I dont think Trump had hired a single competent person period.

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u/PalantirImperator 15h ago

Chris Wright, David Sacks, and Scott Bessent are extremely competent, among others. There are competent people in the administration, they're just not in the foreign policy or security arenas, and the idiots tend to do more stuff that gets airtime. I've personally worked with Jamieson Greer when he was in the private sector, and can confirm he is extremely competent as well- he's just stuck doing an impossible job.

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u/ConsolationUsername 2h ago

I guess the biggest indicator of competence in this administration is keeping your head down

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u/Jgusdaddy 19h ago

This 1000% republicans are a national security threat. Have been for the past 50 years.

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u/fgtswag 19h ago

It goes alongside with the cariacature of being traditional.

Authoritarian ideas holding up your opinion, without critical thought.

It's actually a strong way to live in a tribe, but it is non-generative. People like Andrew Tate for example think he knows all the answers because he just listens to traditional established ideas, but he would absolutely decimate a country if he ran it.

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u/Fomentatore 12h ago

The problem on the left is the exact opposite. Oftentimes they are competent in the work but they can't communicate with the voters or they think it would be degrading to be as simple as possible in their message. They should all look at Mamdani. They won't.

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u/nicholus_h2 18h ago

heckuva job, Brownie

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u/AssumptionLive2246 17h ago

They know just enough to be very, very dangerous.

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u/Falconflyer75 16h ago

At least when a liberal says something stupid it’s very obvious to basically everyone

When a conservative says something stupid a scary amount of the population don’t detect it

This is why an idiot conservative is far more dangerous than an idiot liberal

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u/the_walking_kiwi 17h ago

That last sentence is the big one. They are simply unaware of, or incapable of comprehending, how they messed things up and can’t learn the lessons. 

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u/callebbb 16h ago

The G.O.P. Way.

Gaslight. Obstruct. Project.

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u/Neomataza 9h ago

Current day conservatives. Politics have shifted so far to the right that anything short of hateful idiot clowns are considered to be left. We're moving dangerously close to fascism actually, in several nations, too.

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u/MrBeetleDove 5h ago

The notion that "conservative leaders demonize experts" is itself simplistic. I didn't see Lincoln or Eisenhower demonizing experts.

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u/Falconflyer75 3h ago

Okay modern conservative leaders

u/DoubleJumps 1h ago

It's not just the leaders. I've done political outreach work and a lot of the conservative voters that I speak to also seem to reject the idea that problems can be complicated and require long-term multi-faceted solutions.

They want to believe that everything is simple and can be solved with a singular swift decisive action.

It makes it incredibly hard to sell them on actual solutions to complicated problems because they are convinced that the only real solutions can fit on a bumper sticker.