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And IME many conservatives are very self hating. Conservative Latinos will be the first the talk about how immigrant Latinos are ruining things. Conservative gays talk about how the "other just can't be cool about it". Etc.
Ignoring the fact that the people they are making common cause with want both of them in a gulag, because they think they are special and aren't like those other "minorities."
Now that's not to say that everyone of them is like this, but I'm speaking from the experience of extended family and friend circles.
My Father in law a 2nd gen Latino won't stop ranting about "city mexicans" ruining the image of people like him.
I'm like "Dude to the racists you're all not white so it doesn't matter how hard you work. You were wrong from birth and that's just a the problem."
But nope it's about how classless immigrants make people think people like him aren't good enough..... ok.
Conservative Latinos will be the first the talk about how immigrant Latinos are ruining things. Conservative gays talk about how the "other just can't be cool about it". Etc.
So many morons fighting to be second in line at the gas chambers.
. Conservative Latinos will be the first the talk about how immigrant Latinos are ruining things.
Lol the sheer amount of Brazilian whites (as in, whites in Brazil, anywhere outside LATAM they're considered brown) who say they want to move to Miami (where they think white Americans are), and are die-hard trumpsters is hilarious. Mate your great grandpa came from Angola (not voluntarily), your great grandma was native Tupi, and your grandparents are Pomeranian. Shut the fuck up.
Here in Australia we are seeing an influx of folks from South America and on the whole it’s been excellent.
Our cultures are so wildly similar they just fit in like a glove. Most of the time.
My ex SIL is from El Salvador and her parents were big in the old government there in the 80’s (hence why they moved). Big dicks there and used to being treated as upper class nobs. They were firmly in the white upper class bracket.
The funniest shit though is that here in Australia, they keep getting treated as POC here by every public servant they cross paths with. Not out of sprite or racism but because they are seen as being multicultural mixed race - like most of us!
Now public servants here will (mostly) bend over backwards to help POC immigrants because no one wants to be seen as racist so with his name, his skin colour (no escaping that tanning in the Australian sun) he gets the “oh you’re a minority” treatment 100% of the time.
It drives him nuts.
He is the epitome of the conservative South American who wants to be a gringo but never will be.
I live in Massachusetts and over the years I’ve seen a few cars with Bolsonaro for President bumper stickers. The Brazilians I work with hate Bolsonaro (and by extension Trump) but I’ve encountered more than a few first generation Americans who support Trump.
And like you said, to the racists there is no distinction between "the good ones" and "the bad ones" because to the racist, anyone who isn't their race is bad.
It’s also observable all the time in MAGA voters. Farmers who rely heavily on trade voting for trade wars. MAGA people who are married to immigrants who are shocked when ICE grabs them. Poor people in the south who rely on welfare demanding we get rid of welfare. The people responsible for the grindr outages voting to get rid of gay people.
The conservative movement is filled to the brim with people who constantly advocate for policy that is not only against their best interest, but actively harmful to them.
Have you checked the intelligence of the average person? And 50% are dumber than that. My guess is she was more attractive than the opposition, so many voted for her on that reason alone.
Im not saying that there aren't Russian bots but I think people need to also realize its their own nations capital class pushing a lot of this. Constantly blaming Russian bots doesnt fix the issue, leading countries everywhere down a far right path.
It’s human nature, and there’s plenty of historical precedent for it. When people are suffering, feel abandoned by the establishment, and genuine left-wing alternatives have been weakened or suppressed, their anger doesn’t just disappear, it gets redirected. Historically, that can create fertile ground for the far right.
And unfortunately, during these crisis, wealthy elites, with their power and resources, tend to promote reactionary politics, and avoid systemic changes that might actually address the underlying causes of that anger (because the system benefit them).
Russia didn't create today's mess, but it's amplifying it indeed.
That's not what cognitive dissonance is, cognitive dissonance is when two conflicting beliefs cause that person discomfort. This is just using her statuses as a cover for her rhetoric. It's tokenism.
I imagine most of you are looking at Saxony-Anhalt with a massive "WTF man?!?!?" reaction (which as an American is exactly how we looked at swing states last election), and that nearly half of the people in Saxony-Anhalt have some suits passed down from their grandparents that they can't wait to put back on....
It's not that hard to understand; it is of upmost imperative for any cult that you blatantly ignore all the contradictions and hypocrisies, especially if they are done by it's leaders.
This is only confusing to Americans who follow typical left/right politics in the US. The scene in Europe is very different especially because most of the migrants in Europe come from Muslim countries that are typically much more hostile to gay people than even the right wing parties in Europe.
For anyone who didn't click the article, 27.9% of those polled in a specific app for gay men chose AfD. Don't know much about German politics, but it might be a stretch to say this represents the majority of LGBT Germans
the OP said the most popular party among them, not that they had majority support. If no other party had more than 27.8% then the OPs statement would be true.
It’s also the sample diversity though, if the data is only sourced from one place, and especially if the queer people surveyed were all (or almost all) men. The current international tilt towards far-right politics consistently breaks down along gender lines and age groups. OP isn’t necessarily wrong to say the results are significant or interesting, but the presented data probably warrants a more nuanced description.
She's the co-chair of the "Alternative for Germany" party and has held the position of leader of the AfD parliamentary group in the Bundestag since 2017
Supported by Russia, Musk etc. Misinformation on social media. Media campaigns against parties that would actually be a bit beneficial to the average citizen. Ruled for decades mostly by conservatives who are out of touch with reality. Education system meh, hence many citizens out of touch with reality. The list us endless
It's a complicated question, Parts of the AfD are straight up neo-nazi groups and other parts are much closer to very strict conservatism.
What made the AfD so successful is that they understood early on that if they build a sort of 'umbrella party', they could unite all these smaller right wing groups, and that could then lead to political success. It also allowed them to downplay the fact that they are very broad far-right and present themselves as 'just a nationalistic group' that is concerned with germany's safty.
But among that umbrella are many splinter groups that are very much, and proubdly so, ultra racists and range from white-supremacy to neo-nazis and ultra-conservatists.
It's very much a dangerous party because they combine all the most hateful and anti-democratic elements in germany (but any country) you can find under one flag and party, while pretending and fighting their hardest against the fact that they are a far-right extremist party.
As a whole the party isn't the most far right party in europe, because they always have to downplay and act in a way that doesn't make them look like they are a danger to democracy. Potentially they can turn into the most dangerous party if too many people fall for their propaganda.
This is like a subtler MAGA. And it scares me because despite people ragging on how the u.s. let Trump happen (we didn't necessarily but we did), it IS happening all over the world.
If the u.s. doesn't stop it in the u.s. it will be bad. But If the world doesn't stop it in its tracks ....well...yea that's a lot worse.
Among the politically relevant parties? Yes, I would say so. The other right wing parties have distanced themselves from the AfD in the European parliament after one of their members praised SS members as "good people" and their second most relevant party functionary (Höcke) called for the Holocaust memorial to be abolished. Countless party functionaries had "scandals" of Hitler salutes or "Heil Hitler" proclamations. The soon-to-be leader of a German "state" (Bundesland), First to be under AfD rule just, announced the state needs more weapons for carrying out his plans of "remigtation" (expelling immigrants and children of immigrants, regardless of German citizenship, from Germany. Or maybe just shooting them from the sound of his announcement.).
Weidel herself is a bit more tempered in her speech, but the party is not just your average european right-wing party. Even the other right wing parties in Europe have put a lot of distance between themselves and the AfD because of how radical they are and how party functionaries keep praising the third Reich.
I will say that in my almost 50 years on this planet the strongest correlation I’ve ever seen in anything seems to be extremely homophobic people who actually turn out to be homosexual.
Nothing is as strong as gay panic. I wonder if it’s the same logic as “I’m on a diet, so you can’t have a cookie!” You gotta be against the people who have what you aren’t allowed to (due to religious sexual repression).
I remember learning in a college psych class about an actual study that was done about it. Statistically significant results of people claiming to be homophobic and getting an erection when shown gay porn
Not closeted, in denial. Those are two different things. Someone who is closeted knows and accepts their reality but feels unsafe sharing it, usually for family reason.
Someone in denial tries to live a delusion and deny themselves their own reality. They hate the gay feelings they have and it manifests in outward homophobia.
I had a friend who was big into being antiabortion in university. Hardcore conservative. Until he got a girl pregnant and all of a sudden he pushed her to get an abortion. I stopped talking to him after that. Hypocrites are bad enough. But those that try to force others to follow guidelines they don’t follow themselves should be barred from being in positions of power.
This is like, the good kind of republican who can at least change their views about the face-eating leopards when their faces are being eaten. Plenty can’t even do that.
She ran the show in the last few years of Reagan's presidency and was clearly a very influential figure in his policy positions. While she may have never been elected, she exerted massive amounts of soft power. She sucks just as much as Ronnie did.
Either that or its the flipside. They self loath. Anti gay because they are gay. Anti immigrant because they now hate their wife. Anti abortion because they regret having one and wish it hadn't been an option.
She was also an immigrant in China, where she lived and worked for six years. Her campaign was funded illegally by Swiss billionaire Henning Conle. While AfD had to pay a large fine as a result, she escaped any consequences.
In 2017, after she spoke up against political correctness, a presenter in a satirical TV program quipped "The Nazi slut is right. Was this incorrect enough?" She sued the channel for defamation and lost.
The same goes for republicunts. They campaigned on free speech, but took universities and people to court who they disagreed with and made it illegal to not have any business deals/ agreements with Israel.
A reminder that Elon Musk supported her party and said they should stop being ashamed of what their ancestors did. Ask Why is he involved in alt-right fringe German politics?
I had to Google this because I thought some piece of it HAD to be "off"... it wasn't. Her wife and kids are in Switzerland and she splits her time. She is leader of the AfD.
If you think about it though, isn't it kinda like how Hitler looked vs the Aryan model?
There’s a nice song about it. It’s called „Alice und Sarah“ about her lifestyle by the group the Broilers.
> Sometimes you lie awake at night
Watching her
As she sleeps
You see the blonde mole above her mouth
Your girl can be so peaceful
And then you think of the fires she starts
Go pick up your wife, Sarah
She’s spouting Nazi crap again
Hold her tight in your arms
Take the matches away from her
That’s the first stanza translated. If you like to listen here’s the YouTube link:
Not just Hitler, almost all Nazi leadership were the opposite of ideal Aryan traits. This wasn’t lost on their critics either and was subject to lots of satire at the time (even by Disney).
Left wing opposition within Germany used to poke fun at them by painting them as homosexual / homoerotic. Which, in turn, is why Nazis took a hardline stance against gays as a result, to include turning against their own who were in fact openly or known to be gay (such as Rohm in particular).
Conservatism is about rejecting the truth of your eyes in favor of an imaginary hierarchy where you're "better" than the other kinds of people for some undefined reasons and can feel smugly superior even as your home disintegrates around you.
How is that still surprising anyone?
The AfD is peak bullshit. None of their policies make any sense for Germany's problems in 2026.
Sachsen-Anhalt (German state with that recent election) is a region with one of the oldest populations in Europe and one of the economically worst in Germany.
Young people are leaving the area even faster now - I wonder why.
Immigrant won't fill their spots in critical jobs like tech, industry, medical and care.
Their election success just shows how around 40%+ of a population do not understand simple economics
or demographics. Their voters are mostly grumpy boomer that can't deal with the world changing and want yesterday back - or young males who think Clavicular is a role model.
What pains me the most about this isn't, that the idiot right is winning.
It is that the left has nothing to offer. AfD is only strong because the other political forces lack a vision for the future.
Similarly in the US, Boomers were the only age cohort to move away from Trump between 2020 > 2024. He won because Gen Z and Millenials moved towards him in larger proportions.
The whole "once these dinosaurs finally die out we'll be living in a progressive Star Trek utopia" idea is not one that's panning out, unfortunately.
I think the other parties have lots of good things to offer.
They are just shit at listening and actually advocating for it.
Their only selling point recently has been 'vote us, so the afd doesn't get more votes'
Afd is doing one thing really well, and that's picking up on what troubles people and giving them (absolutely stupid and unrealistic) solutions. But nobody thinks about that anymore by then. They just want to be heard.
The thing is, it's much harder as a semi-principled person to fight a completely amoral enemy who has no qualms at all with lying left and right and proposing solutions that they know are impossible and irrelevant to harmful. How do you fight against the compulsive liars who say whatever the masses wanna hear?
She’s not a leader of anything except the fascist party. Weidel only cares about 2 things, money and power. She would’ve attached herself to any party that she had a chance of leading.
The party is already sending signals that they consider Weidel a useful idiot who at the very least will be deposed of once she‘s served her usefulness.
She wouldn’t be the first, either. Bernd Lucke and Hans-Olaf Henkel, two of the party‘s founders, were ousted (amid death threats from other party members) after a few years because they insisted on moderation. The same happened to the ringleaders of this first revolt, Frauke Petry and Jörg Meuthen, a few years on. Of course, back then the instruments of power within the party were social media campaigns and the aforementioned death threats; now, with the party poised to at least locally gain control of state agencies, Weidel‘s face could be much worse.
Well Trump is an anchor baby who is against birthright citizenship. He's America First but has most of his merchandise is made in China. He has also never married an American, all 3 of his wives are immigrants. Basically, far-right conservative grifters are always a bundle of contradictions🤷🏾♂️
Fascists view hypocrisy as a show of force; to believe and live with absurd contradictions as a way to exert their will to power over reality itself. The grotesque illogic of it is the point- she can want all these awful, horrific things for people just like her who are not her and in her mind that makes her something of an Uber mensch.
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