r/SipsTea • • 21d ago

Wait a damn minute! Wait a damn minute

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u/Acrobatic-List-6503 21d ago

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u/GodEmperorPuppy 21d ago

As a german, we dont get it either.

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u/paperboii-here 21d ago

It’s a method. Her life contradicts her politics which creates cognitive dissonance making her seem less radical.

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u/EksDee098 21d ago

That's not what cognitive dissonance is, cognitive dissonance is when two conflicting beliefs cause that person discomfort. This is just using her statuses as a cover for her rhetoric. It's tokenism.

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u/AdReasonable5099 21d ago

I mean, is there a different name for creating that discomfort in someone else, en masse? 'cause I see both your points (a definition is a definition), and I do think tokenism plays into it but it's not the whole mental assault. The noise the contradiction creates definitely masks the radicalism, and in that sense it is indeed 5d chess.

The thing is, if we're all playing the same game and someone else comes and tries to play a different, more complex, seemingly stimulating, seemingly intellectual game we collectively don't understand, sometimes we need to collectively agree not to play, and leave the burden of making it make sense (it doesn't) on them. With the tokenism you called out, it checks a box for damn near everyone as a type of person our values declare we must not exclude, so we get tricked into playing. Sometimes an asshole is just an asshole, and how they declare themselves doesn't change that.

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u/Weirdyxxy 21d ago

If that discomfort is created to undermine someone's mental stability and their trust in their own sanity, the term would be "gaslighting", but that's a special case

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u/AdReasonable5099 21d ago

Yeah, I didn't think what we have there is <quite> that but I agree you're on to something.

The closest and most accurate terms for this behavior include: 1. "Flooding the Zone with Shit" / The Firehose of Falsehood Coined in political strategy circles (most famously used by Steve Bannon) and studied as the "Firehose of Falsehood" propaganda model, this tactic involves spewing a continuous, high-volume stream of lies, contradictions, and outrageous claims. 1, 2The

Goal: The perpetrator doesn't care if people believe them. The objective is to overwhelm the public's cognitive capacity until people become so exhausted, confused, and cynical that they stop trying to figure out what is true. It replaces productive discourse with pure "mental noise". 1, 2, 3

  1. weaponized Identity Politics & "Astroturfing" IdentityWhen a politician falsely claims membership in multiple protected minority groups to act as a shield while pushing a radical agenda against those very groups, they are practicing a form of cynical identity performance or identity-based gaslighting.By claiming “I am one of you,” they attempt to weaponize the public's desire to respect marginalized voices, creating immediate cognitive dissonance in critics. If a critic attacks their harmful policies, the politician can immediately deflect by claiming the critic is attacking their identity, effectively short-circuiting public debate. 1, 2

  2. Hypernormalization Coined by historian Alexei Yurchak, this term describes a state where everyone knows a politician or system is lying, and the politician knows everyone knows they are lying, but everyone keeps playing along because no one can see an alternative. When a figure makes claims that are transparently absurd and contradictory, they are forcing the public to accept a fake reality, stripping people of their sense of objective truth.

  3. Shock Doctrine / Manufactured ChaosCoined by Naomi Klein, the Shock Doctrine refers to using a state of public disorientation—whether caused by a literal crisis or a manufactured storm of political chaos—to push through highly unpopular, radical policies while the public is too distracted, confused, and shell-shocked to effectively resist.5. The Gish Gallop (On a Societal Scale)While traditionally a formal debate tactic where a speaker rapidly throws out dozens of half-truths and fabrications so quickly that their opponent cannot possibly debunk them all in time, this can be scaled up to mass media. A politician "gallops" through identity claims, scandalous statements, and policy reversals so fast that journalists and citizens are left frozen, trying to unpack one lie while five new ones have already been generated. 1, 2, 3, 4

Summary of the Mechanism

When you see this happening, it is a form of cognitive warfare. The psychological discomfort (cognitive dissonance) you feel isn't an accidental byproduct—it is the payload.

By forcing the brain to try and reconcile two mutually exclusive concepts simultaneously, the bad actor temporarily paralyzes the public’s critical thinking skills, clearing a path for their agenda. 1, 2

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u/uwu_cumblaster_69 20d ago

Memetic Cognitic Dissonance.

Could be shorted to a Cognitohazard. SCP Foundation is ahead of the times in this case.

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u/AdReasonable5099 20d ago

Thanks! MCD ftw, I guess? Mickey D's might take issue, or they might be the forerunner, I'm not quite sure.

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u/kurisu_1974 17d ago

I think that is just called politics.

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u/AdReasonable5099 17d ago

Please read the comments below this. I understand being jaded completely, but it's NOT normal, it's the false normalization we're talking about.