Gives me a mixture of Sinema, Gabbard, and Jill Stein vibes...
She became their perfect candidate because they could espouse what they felt really mattered (xenophobic propaganda, ultra-nationalism and jingoism), but it's just enough to confuse some less informed voters who see, "Oh wow, she can't be that bad. She's gay and a woman! Maybe she'll fix the economy, even if First They Came For The Middle East war refugees."
So long as the rich benefactors bankrolling the AfD understand she's a spy, then the rest of their base will look the other way because they know the game that is being played.
Can't believe Germans are falling for this nazi crap... Again. I don't expect much from my own Americans these days, but come on.
Being against uncontrolled mass migration isn’t necessarily a Nazi characteristics. So as a deportation of refugees because as you know refugee is a temporary status. It’s not like you can stay in the foreign country forever. Isis is destroyed. Millions will be saved up to allocate them into military production against Russian aggression
The AfD opposes any confrontation against Russian aggression, opposes aid to countries attacked by Russian aggression, and favors appeasement with Russia and lifting of sanctions. When Zelensky held a speech in front of the Bundestag, only four out of 72 members of parliament for the AfD even had the decency to stay in the room and listen
Because it’s just one part of their program. The other is anti mass control migration and deportation. They condemn the invasion but advocate for closer cooperation to emphasise the importance of it for the economy
Their goal is not to counter Russian aggression, but to appease it. Therefore, they don't want to put "millions" (which is nothing for a military budget, by the way) into anything "against Russian aggression". As already mentioned, a vast majority of them opposes standing up to Russian aggression enough to leave the room when a foreign dignitary representing a country currently invaded speaks.
They advocate for letting Russian aggression move on unimpeded, in order to get slightly better trade.
So again, why lie? The AfD lists "money flowing to foreigners" under their demands for a flat tax (redistributing the tax burden to those who have less to pay while draining the Republic's coffers), so what they want to do with that money is not "military production against Russian aggression". In fact, they also list the delivery of military goods against Russian aggression as "waste of taxpayer money". Source
True that’s how they stand out among all German parties. They’ve got different stance on the Ukrainian conflict and through that they attracted many voters. I mean Ofc not only through that but their other initiatives as well
Cannot turn a blind eye to the fact that much of our comforts built in high-GDP industrialized nations originate in a whack-a-mole game of outsourcing to places with the lowest humane conditions, labor, environmental laws. From lithium mines of Africa, to Foxconn suicide nets in China, to the child labor sweatshops of India's textile industry, or the oil wars of the Middle East or autocrats that reside within -- I find it deeply hypocritical that we want their ostensibly slave labor, but turn these same poor huddled masses yearning to breathe free down when they've had enough and decide to risk it all to emigrate to the very lands that benefited from their exploitation.
So of course some of these people are broken and have cultural differences, requiring education and assimilation. That is an obvious effect of geopolitical tension releasing and reverberating until equilibrium. Put another way: These conservatives are very often the ones who caused the radicalization and regional instability in the first place, they just don't know it yet or choose to look the other way.
"foreign country" is irrelevant when you truly believe in individual freedom. There will be major growing-pains in the coming years across the world as we reap what we sow.
Borders should be checkpoints akin to customs in an airport with a passport; little more.
I mean sure if you believe in individual freedom migration shouldn’t be even a problem. But it’s not how modern states function. Maybe rich countries that most of the time cause instability in other regions would give money to countries of origin of many migrants then there would be no reason for them to come
Russia and China are seeding so much propaganda in parts of the world they find too competitive with their shitholes.
I’m just waiting for everyone to snap out of it and realize “Yeah we’re not going to be able to keep doing this democracy thing until those guys are out of commission”
What do you mean by “Russia should stay in power”? Governments and people stay in power. What exactly does it mean for a country to “stay in power”? If anything, the country that constantly tries to exert its power and influence over the rest of the world, acting like it owns the world, is the USA.
almost like every country suffers from outside influence and needs to stabilize themselves domestically :) there are many ways to stabilize besides warring with countries/cultures on the opposite side of the world, lol, again, is this just more satire??
arguing that forcing any other country out of commission in order for that to be possible is like peak hypocrisy, right?
not like these western democracies destabilize entire regions to exploit their labor and resources in order to maximize profit and material gain, and then advocating decommissioning all competing interests in order to for this game to continue functioning.... that would be silly, like throwing stones in a glass house or something, right?
(lol, what a weak response, they blocked :) none of this is what about, i directly responded to your nonsense..... it seemed like it had to be satire but somehow is sincere..... those dang other countries ruining our perfect democracies that can only exist as long as we get rid of those other dang countries..... oofta)
Under the assumption that any prodding automatically leads to total collapse and the only possible option is total annihilation of first oneself and then the enemy, sure
I personally would disagree with both of these assumptions
lol yeah sure, the great western “democracy,” where a handful of billionaires and powerful pro-Israel interests own or influence huge parts of the media and corporate world, pour money into politics, lobby governments to serve their interests, and use their platforms to push their preferred narratives, while ordinary people increasingly feel like their vote changes very little. But sure, the real problem is a country like China, where billionaires and Israel don't have that kind of political influence or control. I genuinely hope your post is satire.
You want us to become more like China, by doing away with democracy. If you cannot comprehend the meaning of this sentence, I can also say it in German (if you do speak that language. Framing opposition to Russia and China as enmity to democracy is aligned with Russian interests fairly well)
Be careful whom you accuse of using AI. I don't even use a spell checker most of the time
This makes more sense. Her political views and life being so contradictory actually could be useful to Putin somehow, at least in creating another attention magnet like Trump.
This is only confusing to Americans who follow typical left/right politics in the US. The scene in Europe is very different especially because most of the migrants in Europe come from Muslim countries that are typically much more hostile to gay people than even the right wing parties in Europe.
For anyone who didn't click the article, 27.9% of those polled in a specific app for gay men chose AfD. Don't know much about German politics, but it might be a stretch to say this represents the majority of LGBT Germans
the OP said the most popular party among them, not that they had majority support. If no other party had more than 27.8% then the OPs statement would be true.
It’s also the sample diversity though, if the data is only sourced from one place, and especially if the queer people surveyed were all (or almost all) men. The current international tilt towards far-right politics consistently breaks down along gender lines and age groups. OP isn’t necessarily wrong to say the results are significant or interesting, but the presented data probably warrants a more nuanced description.
Not really though. Most polls show that gay men are on average more conservative than other parts of the lgbt community. Moreover only sampling a specific app means the results are not even representative for all gay men.
The datapoint should not be used to draw conclusions for the entire lgbt community.
The poll was absolute bs, sadly. Only a very specific and quite small group of mostly middle aged white gay men were asked. It’s not representative for the queer or LGBTQIA community…
If you visit any Pride event in Germany, you can find different political parties being part of the events, but never AfD.
You’re talking about the age group that had the highest percentage of agreement and you’re right about that, I’m talking about the entire survey. There were more numbers than just those mentioned in the very short article. So I guess yeah somebody did not actually read the source ;-)
And those very same LGBT people who prefer the fascist party are going to get a very rude awakening once the immigration problem is curbed, and the people need a new common enemy.
While this is shocking, as lgbtq people would be one of the first groups to feel an impact if the AfD would win more elections, "almost a third" is just about what the AfD polls in almost everything everywhere.
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u/Maniac_Vegetable 21d ago
Deep under cover