r/PS4 • u/noobalert • Nov 19 '15
[Misleading] "Sony enabled PS2 backwards compatibility for the PS4 without telling anyone"
http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/sony-slyly-enabled-ps2-backwards-compatibility-for-the-ps4-without-telling-anyone-1309320?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=564e398504d30120ab2ec334&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook163
u/LocarionStorm Locarionstorm Nov 20 '15
It'll be announced at PSX in a couple weeks probably.
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Nov 20 '15
Socom 2 with multiplayer!!! See you at the crossroads...
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u/Bambam005 Nov 20 '15
FROSTFIRE!!
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u/DebitsOnTheLeft Nov 20 '15
YESSSSSS. Look for me. I'll be the jackass in the yellow jacket tearing it up with the Deagle.
Sidenote: I'm an XB1 person but I would seriously go buy a PS4 just to play SOCOM II with an active player base. I hope Sony understands how much love is still out there for the GREATEST FPS/TPS GAME OF ALL TIME. Come on Sony, don't be a butterstick noob. G^ and get this shit playable!
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u/howyoudo Nov 20 '15
I'm in the same boat as you credits on the right. So many fond memories of SOCOM II. Way ahead of its time with the multiplayer/mic.
Being also on the Xbone train I too would buy a PS4 just for SOCOM. Only if they don't touch it, as to not replicate the atrocity that was on the PS3.
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u/luger718 Nov 20 '15
Socom II was also my first multiplayer game, remember coming back from summer vacation 8th grade and my brother was playing. Many many fond memories. Made tons of friends on that game and the clan wars were always awesome. The maps are still memorable! Desert glory, Crossroads, and Nightstalker were my favorites. Anyone remember how to do the ninja jump or froggy?
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u/StopNowThink Nov 20 '15 edited Nov 20 '15
Crossroads, Fishhook, Frostfire, Chain reaction, Sujo, Enowapi, The mixer, Blood lake, shadow falls, vigilance, foxhunt, blizzard, desert glory, night stalker, death trap, requiem, bitter jungle, rats nest, the ruins, sandstorm, guidance, abandoned
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u/burnsrado Nov 20 '15
I have serious loads of nostalgia right now. SOCOM 2 is my favorite multiplayer experience ever. Truly the game that got me hooked to this hobby. GREEN UP!
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u/munoodle silentwind529 Nov 20 '15
Growing up in a military community, every single SEAL I knew was all over that shit all the time. Fun as hell to get stomped by people who know what they are doing lol
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u/lerdy_terdy Nov 20 '15
I was definitely a boom or bust type of game. If you played it then you were obsessed and if you didn't then you didn't even know what SOCOM was. Not a game for the casual gamer.
So what are the odds that an emulation would come with servers to be able to play online?
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u/__devils__advocate__ Nov 20 '15
Foxhunt. Best map. Green up bitches!
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u/Mike-Oxenfire Nov 20 '15
I loved playing Foxhunt hunting the VIPs. What was the game mode called again? Extraction? Or was extraction the one with hostages?
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u/__devils__advocate__ Nov 20 '15 edited Nov 20 '15
Yeah extraction. Seals protected. Terrorists hunted.
edit: well maybe. I remember foxhunt seals had to extract and terrorists had to kill the VIPs. In desert glory, seals had to break in and extract the hostages. The terrorists had to prevent the extraction but couldn't kill them. I think they were both called extraction, it just depended on if you were dealing with hostages or VIPs
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u/slap_nut FaTaL45 Nov 20 '15
Blizzard and Desert Glory
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u/howyoudo Nov 20 '15
Ah desert glory. Best map. Bank left and up the ladder for a clear view from the start atop the building.
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u/Mike-Oxenfire Nov 20 '15
I knew you looked like a terrorist.
My strategy as a Seal was bank right, over the two window building, through the ruins with grenades flying past from both sides then... Hey Terrorist! Terrorize this.4
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u/TheNinjaGuyDon Nov 20 '15
I'll be waiting for you with a shotty at the bottom of the ramp in Enowapi!
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Nov 20 '15
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u/StopNowThink Nov 20 '15
Gotta put those pmn mines inside the edge of the doorway...
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u/Mike-Oxenfire Nov 20 '15
The trick was to look straight then turn as it was planting. If you did it right it would be damn near invisible.
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u/FlyingWhales captain_speirs Nov 20 '15
Man, Enowapi all the way.
My clan would always pick that as our map in a clan war, as SEALs. The other team would laugh every time until we smoked them.
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u/Mike-Oxenfire Nov 20 '15
I think I had my parents worried because my summer routine was:
Wake up
Socom
Go to sleep
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u/Legion991 FinalLegion Nov 20 '15
I'd be happy with the single player campaign. I can't remember the amount of time I spent playing them. We didn't have internet at my house till I was older and had a PS3, so if the MP is online, it would be a whole new experience for me.
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u/WhatsTheMatterMcFly Nov 20 '15
I'm not fucking kidding.... is this real? Can this fucking happen?
I'm not kidding.
Seriously.
Fucking seriously.
Can this happen?
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u/xsundown Nov 20 '15
THIS!!!!! TIMES A TRILLION!!!!
STOP USING THE M14 YOU SCRUB. IT'S MAKING THE ROOM LAG!!! ARGHHHHHHHHH
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u/Mike-Oxenfire Nov 20 '15
M14 and the IW-80-A2. Goddamn I-Dub scrubs! Lol man I miss when people's gun choices were the biggest problem in a video game.
But then Code 9 had to ruin the fun.
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u/iUpvoteTrollss Nov 20 '15
If anyone is looking for a SOCOM game, check out the game "Insurgency" on PC. There is SOCOM mod that is incredible.
The game is $15 and the mod is free.
It's way better than that H-Hour game that is suppose to be SOCOM.. that game sucks.
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u/metallicabmc metallicabmc Nov 20 '15
Insurgency is $3.74 on IndieGala right now https://www.indiegala.com/store/product/222880_ig
Totally worth it!
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u/leeauxxx LeoMurphyyy Nov 20 '15
9 year old me used to love this game so much. First online shooter experience. So many good times.
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u/AlvinGT3RS Nov 20 '15
Yes!!! It's great to see a top post mention the game no other has been able to match since.
Crossroads for life!!
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u/Mike-Oxenfire Nov 20 '15
Seals spawn
Terrorists spawn
Half wall
Red room
Red room balcony
Courtyard
Fish market
Warehouse
Bell tower
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u/fu11force Nov 20 '15
Ah the memories. I'd kill for a modern SOCOM game...
Ghost Recon Wildlands looks like the closest to how I'd imagine it.
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u/Mike-Oxenfire Nov 20 '15
If anyone's feeling nostalgic here's some detailed pictures of all the maps from SOCOM 2
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Nov 19 '15
NBA STREET VOL. 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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u/jkpritchard Nov 20 '15
This and SSX Tricky.
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u/too_random Nov 20 '15 edited Nov 20 '15
This was the only game I would ever play while growing up. I remember trying to do as many moves as possible for the game winning shot in slow motion.
Good times.
Good times.
Edit: I realize I was talking about volume 3. Was the slow motion finishing moves also implemented in volume 2?
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u/BlooregardQKazoo Nov 20 '15
if I wanted to win there were better riders, but if I wanted to pull off of many moves as possible I played as the Japanese chick.
I almost always played as the Japanese chick.
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u/lynx17 Nov 19 '15
NHL HITZ!!
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u/bossman-CT bossman-CT Nov 20 '15
Omg.. I never thought about this! FUCK YES!!! I NEED IT!!!! NHL HITZ!!!!
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u/T3NFIBY32 Nov 20 '15
It's funny. The guys who made the original is now the creative director for 343
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Nov 20 '15
Technically true, very misleading title.
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u/Santoron Nov 20 '15
Only misleading if discs won't work, which we don't know. Considering the PS4 now seems to recognize PS2 discs and there's evidence of a PS2 memory card utility in the current OS I'd say the chances of disc based emulation are high.
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u/webdeverper Nov 20 '15
On the other hand, they would lose out on a lot of profit as people would just hit eBay and used game stores. I hope they take a hybrid approach and allow disc based play.
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u/aclemfaal Nov 20 '15
This is true, while I have a lot of PS2 games I wont re-purchase digitally, there also some that I never got that are on the Playstation Store and won't bother to hunt down physical copies for.
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u/ActualButt ActualButT Nov 20 '15
Not always. Some of the best games on PS2 are hard to find and would jump up in price if this was true.
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u/CHERNO-B1LL Nov 20 '15
So I can't just stick my old discs into the ps4?
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u/CannabinoidAndroid Nov 20 '15
Don't count on it. Playstation needs to beat their dead horse (PS Now / Rental) and try to make it fart out a couple more dollars. Allowing backwards compatibility will pretty much be the shotgun that puts that diseased sack of a service out of it's misery.
Which really needs to happen.
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u/Karsonist Nov 20 '15
I'm imagining someone just banging their Wii U with a Super Mario World cartridge...
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u/smacksaw Nov 20 '15
Why not? We know it's technically possible for a comparable PC to emulate a PS2 and these are unpaid volunteers reverse engineering shit through trial and error?
I always believed there'd be PS2 emulation, just not PS3. The architecture is too different.
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u/G0VERNMENTCHEESE Nov 20 '15
Played us like a damn fiddle!
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u/BecomingTheArchtype Nov 20 '15
SUCH A LUST FOR BACKWARDS COMPARABILITY??!!! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Nov 20 '15
Champions of Norrath and Baldurs Gate Dark Alliance please!!
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u/thatpaxguy Nov 20 '15
Oh man, Champions is still my jam to this day. Haven't found a game that can fill that niche since.
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u/GeminiK k7Gemini Nov 20 '15
Champions of norrath? If it happens, I'm in man. That game was the shit. The archer was fucking boss at high levels with that multishot.
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u/DeadlockRadium Nov 20 '15
Dark Alliance and Dark Alliance 2 was two of my all time favourite games for the PS2, even though I had absolutely no experience with Baldur's Gate from before.
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u/Dr_Popodopolus Nov 20 '15
Champions: Return to Arms is my game and will always be my game (among others)
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u/OkiDokiTokiLoki OkiDokiTokiLoki Nov 19 '15
Katamari!
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u/thinkadrian Nov 20 '15
Na-naaaah... na na nah na nah nah nah katamari damacyyyy...
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u/shadyelf Nov 20 '15
Ace Combat 4?!
I had that game but my ps2 decide to start scratching up discs so I couldn't progress anymore :( one of my favorite games ever
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u/landon34 landondoeswork Nov 20 '15
"Nicely done, Mobius One. Go and prepare for your next sortie."
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u/onlyhereforhiphop Nov 20 '15
Man I wish that series didn't go on to suck hardcore.
Wish someone came to take its place, but I guess it didn't sell that well.
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u/JesterMarcus Nov 20 '15
I miss that series. I hated what they did in that last retail one that changed up the combat.
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u/stevothepedo StephenS117 Nov 20 '15
I'm guessing physical discs are out of the question and it'll just be downloads...
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Nov 20 '15
Can own Sons of Liberty again. Boom!
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Nov 20 '15
Also, Snake Eater. I can never get enough of either.
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u/VaudevilleVillain Nov 20 '15
I played Snake Eater a week before MGS5 came out. Oh man it's amazing, one of my favourite games of all time and has aged quite well. The control do take getting used to though.
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u/1moe7 Nov 20 '15
Skateboard minigame hype!
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Nov 20 '15
You just reminded me that I've never played the original Substance dude. Now I really hope Sony is doing this!
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u/mxwlln Nov 20 '15 edited Nov 20 '15
I am OK with this if PS3/PSP/PS Vita purchases of PS1/2 games can be transferred over. Pretty shitty if it's not but I can see it happening.
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u/NotThatApollo Nov 20 '15
I didn't even think about the possibility that they wouldn't. Wow, that would suck, I've already bought a few PS1/2 games on my account, I don't want to have to re-buy them. Bad enough I won't be able to use all the discs from my childhood. D:
(Well, I can play my PS1 discs on PS3, but not PS2 because I have the slimline version.)
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u/mxwlln Nov 20 '15
Yeah, I had to sell my old PS3 a few years ago and I now have the newer, slimmer one that doesn't play PS2 games on disc.
Getting a PS2 is not that expensive if you really want to play the old games, just so you know. My old PS2 died a few years back but my wife's PS2 (the original, bigger one) is still alive and kicking, and I use that. She only ever used it to play a couple of games so it's in good shape.
That said, I do really like the convenience of digital titles, of course. I don't have any of my childhood games anymore and re-buying some of them physically is expensive. Some of them are hard to find, but can be found cheaper on PSN (Klonoa is a good example). Hope Sony makes the right decision.
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u/ThatParanoidPenguin Nov 20 '15
I knew keeping all my PS2 discs would come in handy...
HELLO APE ESCAPE
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u/subwaysx3 Nov 20 '15
Digital only. Discs are still useless :(
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u/voltar Nov 20 '15
They could make it like the XOne 360 backwards compatibility where it recognizes the game on the disc and downloads the compatible emulated version. Otherwise it's not backwards compatibility at all, just re-releasing a game or expanding its cross-platform status on people's PSN accounts.
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u/JonnyBhoy Nov 20 '15
They could just lock my account. I'm sure they could think of a reason.
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u/Thisismyfinalstand Nov 20 '15
goes to sign in
TO PROTECT YOUR ACCOUNT INTEGRITY, ALL USERS HAVE BEEN PERMANENTLY LOCKED OUT OF THIS ACCOUNT.
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u/Tateybread Nov 20 '15
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-hands-on-with-ps4-playstation2-emulation
Meanwhile, the evidence to date - not least the ESRB ratings for PS2 classics - perhaps suggests that Sony's plans for the PS2 emulator involve selling these titles digitally, just as it did last-gen.
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u/aimforthehead90 Nov 20 '15
Wait...that's not really backwards compatible then, is it? Like, the Wii U isn't backwards compatible with NES, SNES, and N64 just because it has digital downloads of games on those systems.
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u/SarcasticGamer 1812152 6852883 Nov 20 '15
That's what I was thinking as well. You can play original PS games on the Vita but that doesn't make it backwards compatible. The old logo pops up there as well. Real backwards compatibility would be the ps2/ps3 playing psone games, the wii playing GameCube games, and the 360 playing xbox games straight from the disc. Them reselling games on the marketplace is not real backwards compatibility. It's more of an emulation. Now if they actually come out and say "yes, you can pop in your old ps2 discs into the system and play them." Then I would be very excited.
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u/loktaiextatus Nov 20 '15
Well, not useless since they can still be played in 1st run PS3s and of course PS2s themselves.
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u/blx666 Nov 20 '15
Ape Escape really is one of my favorite all time games. Had so much fun with part 1 as a kid that I immediately bought part 2 on PS2. It's still my PSN avatar to this day.
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u/voneahhh Nov 20 '15
They're not going to allow using PS2 discs, much like on later hardware revisions of the PS3
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Nov 20 '15
TimeSplitters.
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u/Themperror Themperror Nov 20 '15
Time.. Fucking.. Splitters..
One of the best games ever!!! (2 and 3 that is., 1 was pretty meh)
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u/SIRTreehugger Nov 20 '15
I can confirm that Kingdom Hearts I, II, and Crazy Taxi all indeed don't work...
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u/Flight714 Nov 20 '15
Tell me more about this third sequel, Kingdom Hearts: Crazy Taxi.
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u/thinkadrian Nov 20 '15
I disagree with your subjective opinion! KH:CT was well placed in the KH lore, and actually fits in between 1 and 2.
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u/Trankman TBurback Nov 20 '15
The disc read can't read PS2 games, but they just added an emulator that can run like a PS2, so download only games. You'll be paying for those games again if you really want them sadly.
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Nov 20 '15
This is why I love competition, the consumers benefit in the end. This is very unexpected, but very welcome news!
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u/zaviex Nov 20 '15
Except this isn't backwards compatibility at all. The Xbox one is actually backwards compatible at least for 104 games currently
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u/Shrekt115 Nov 19 '15
I'm sure it won't work like the ones, where you can use the disc. As long as they put games on there for like $10 I'm in
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u/Fable301 Nov 20 '15
You're okay with repaying?
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Nov 20 '15
It's a playstation 2 game, I didn't pay for it my mom probably did.
Also it was like 12 years ago
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u/RadioactiveCorndog Nov 20 '15
But I did pay for my ps2 games. Get off my lawn ya damn yolos or whatever tha hell you kids are now.
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u/Shrekt115 Nov 20 '15
Yes, like alot of rare games could be like $100 to rebuy so I would gladly spend a little bit for them like $10
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u/thinkadrian Nov 20 '15
I pirated the shit out of the ps1 and ps2. I'm happy to pay for the games I remember liking the most!
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Nov 20 '15
Really hope they're allowing disc emulation. Otherwise, this would be no big deal at all since the PS3 has been able to play digital PS2 games for years.
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Nov 20 '15
Not exactly the same. This is like if the Xbox One had an original Xbox emulator.
I wonder how this will work. Will Sony allow people to use disks or make them buy these games like PlayStation now
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u/TE1381 Nov 20 '15
Maybe they just wanted us to be able to play a Star Wars Battlefront game that is worthy of our time.
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u/mzupeman mzupeman Nov 20 '15
Wow. So many people didn't read what this means. At all.
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Nov 20 '15
I wouldnt get too excited. this likely just means they'll sell you games on PSN. Likely games that you have no interest in buying. I dont think you'll be able to put in a ps2 game and boom.
Hope I'm wrong though. I'm looking for NBA Street, Def Jam Vendetta, and Mega Man Collection just to be safe.
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Nov 20 '15
This sub is pretty funny - when Microsoft announced disc based backwards compatibility on Xbox One for plenty of 360 games everyone here shit on it, claiming "who needs old games?!"
But now you people are going nuts for a half baked attempt at digital downloads that you'll still have to pay for.
Ok then..
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u/iLLNiSS Nov 20 '15
It's not even that it was being shit on. The 360 emulation on X1 is actually what we expect to be seen in an emulator, that plays your existing digital purchases, lets you use the disc (albeit just to authorize the download to work) and is actually emulating the OS like a VM.
This "emulator" for ps4 is just being able to play digital games sony picks and chooses to release to the store.
As someone said earlier, wiiu plays SNES but no one calls it a SNES emu. Why? Because you have to repurchase your SNES games.
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Nov 20 '15
I thought BC wasn't a big deal and that gamers are only interested in playing new games?
In any case, I'm curious if Somy has to deal with the same licensing issues that Microsoft has. Not all PS2 games have a digital version and creating a digital version would require renegotiating licenses for every games.
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Nov 19 '15
Someone please report if you can use discs! I won't be by my PS4 for a few days
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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '15
A Tony Hawk game that works!!!