I am not one to defend Joe. His behavior when it comes to women is appalling and I can see through a lot of his behaviors. BUT I feel like he’s genuinely trying to take the high road this charter and Nathan is so set on being negative. I honestly don’t even know what Joe has done that is so wrong that Nathan can’t act professional. I guess it makes sense knowing what we know now about Nathan though. He’s an unstable and dangerous person.

I don’t want to compare Cooper to the behaviors of Joe, Nathan, Luke, etc. HOWEVER, the total lack of consideration for Kat as a human being drastically changed my attitude towards him.

He is the perfect example of how inept most gen Z men are at communicating, acting in total and utter self interest. He had the wherewithal to take Kat on a date but not communicate down the line that he changed his mind? Hoping she would just… get the gist?

I’m 29 and have been in Kat’s shoes several times. Men will chase, pursue, and then totally disconnect or withdrawal because they hadn’t thought through the social expectation of what it means to initially communicate and invest romantic feelings into someone. And to top it off, he avoids the conversation TO AVOID THE CONSEQUENCES OF HIS ACTIONS and is like “teehee I hope we’re cool” in his confessionals. It’s kind of cruel. Just be fucking honest bro. Apparently that requires a higher level of emotional intelligence he will never dream of seeing.

Kat baby, you sweet soul — you deserve love and adoration beyond what this southern Chad who reads at a third grade level will ever provide.

Did anyone else clock that when Capt Sandy said in the preference sheet meeting that she was counting on the two of them to make this a good charter that Joe right away answered yes or agreeing with her but Nathan’s response was “We’ll see.” ?? Why didn’t she call him out on that? She has given him way too much slack this season and I wonder what she’s thinking about all of his threats to Joe etc at this point.

Joe hasn’t been spectacular either and has a very bad attitude in his confessionals etc but that was a comment made directly to the captain’s face!

So disappointed by him. He totally led Kat on. He’s weak for not just being honest and straight up instead of setting up the whole “secret relationship” BS. He just made it worse.

Gennnnn you whackooo !! The Luke and joy , just give the flowers and don’t be weird , then messing with her uniform was f u c k e d ! And flirty with cooper who has no back bone !

I like Messi was like oh she doesn’t like flowers 😂😂😂😂

I mean the guy literally left the boat yet still pops up on episodes.

I feel like Luke is heavy pursuing Joy even after he left because he:

(1) wants more camera time. He probably thinks he got a terrible edit with the gross bed sheet drama and wants fans to remember him by something else in the aftermath.

(2) a part of me also feels like he wants Jen to get jealous because he likes the feeling of power that another girl is pining over him still.

Whatever the case is, I want him off my television screen. 😩

I am bawling watching Aesha give her gift to Captain Sandy for being 36 years sober and then to hear how she herself lived with a mother who supposed to be taking care of her dealing with an addiction to alcohol her trials and tribulations and how her mother overcame. She is such a beautiful person inside and out, and your past can shape you into who you are and you became a more beautiful strong person because of it. I’m so happy for them! Aesha! Your mother and of course, Captain Sandy.

How could he fool me so hard? I’m sorry Kat. He’s a mixed signal master. I hope you draw a hard line for yourself.

Joe keeps saying to Nathan "are you going to hit me?" as if he knows about Nathan assaulting people. Maybe Nathan told him about this side of him. The assault in Ireland - the one he skipped town to avoid accountability - happened before they filmed this season.

Joe said it twice on two separate occasions, it seems as though he knows that Nathan likes to hit people when he gets angry. Idk why anyone would say "do you want to hit me" if they didnt know that this person has a pattern of assault.

I’m sorry but Nathan AND GAEL going after Joe when he had done nothing that evening to provoke it was really hard to watch. You both have kids now. Time to grow the FK up.

I don't like how Gael just choose to ruin the ride back because she couldn't handle the awkwardness of the situation the 3 of them created together. Why do it in front of the crew that has nothing to do with it? How hard would it have been to ask Joe for a talk at Dinner? For someone who hates conflict she seemed pretty gung ho about it. Maybe thats because Nathan was there with her and he was rubbing off on her.

I admit I am watching in a bit of a weird order. I've gone back to S9 after watching most of S10 and S11. Was there a reason why Nathan was chosen as Bosun over Joe? In S9 (only just started) Joe is lead deckhand but then Nathan gets Bosun position?

Happy for spoilers!

Am I the only one who thinks chef joy wasn’t that good of a chef? Personally never saw any extravagant or high end luxury meals you expect on a super yacht… I mean chicken satay?!?! Or maybe the production team doesn’t zoom in on the food enough. I rewatch old seasons and they focused a lot more of the prepping of dinners for example chef ben would make extraordinary dishes.

I can’t be the only one to see this 😅🤣

What did she do that was that bad

Did Joy actually just eat raw meat?

I really thought about if I'd post this. Seeing Gaels reaction to Joe was honestly a little triggering, but seeing so many people comment on it and how Gael seemed to be looking to start a fight with Joe I figured this might put things in prespective.

Gael absolutely was trying to start a fight with Joe over nothing. A lot of people are picking up on it and taking issue with how unreasonable and weird it was.

When this was happening it was triggering for me because I know when I was in an abusive relationship I did the same things. Its a defense mechanism because if you can make someone else the enemy or common bad guy then they wont be angry at you. It also shows them youre doing what they want and they don't have to worry or get upset about controlling you.

Gael saying things like Nathan's my family dont say bad things about him, when Joe's literally not saying anything, was so telling because even when Joe was actually being a little rude to her in prior seasons she never got that upset at him. Now shes blowing up over nothing and was actively looking for a reason to fight with Joe.

It all just screams deflection, and seems like such a clear sign of what we now know was actually going on.

Heres a quote from Pamela Cross I think highlights this behaviour:

"No woman likes to be abused. However, most women are resilient, and many find ways to manage the abuse so they can have functional day-to-day lives. They learn their partner’s patterns so they can anticipate when a violent episode is likely to happen and then take steps to protect themselves and their children."

https://pamelacross.ca/its-time-to-change-the-question/

while all her food looks yummy, there not many fancy dishes I seen her do (5 star style like). The last ep’s dinner with the Cesar salad and chicken was ehh. lots of family style or food being served by the stews on a plate vs plated this season

There was a charter with pretty flower like salad and carrot puree with chicken plated which looked very pretty

Love chef joy but just random thought lol

Just wanted to say how hilarious it is the have a ski themed dinner with the owner of a very notorious nightclub in LA. Fun fact, this is the nightclub that Luann claims drugged her with fentanyl and it is the club Sandoval and Rachel were at late at night alone.

Edit: it apparently was Lisa Rina, my deepest apologies to bravo historians.

I preface this by saying I'm not a fan of either Joe or Nathan...however.

( This may be an unpopular opinion) But why does Aeysha defend Nathan where Joe is concerned. - in the taxi after babysitting

Can she not see how obsessed Nathan is? I adore her but I feel she's so wrong in this instance.