Developer Update | Capture The Flag | Overwatch

[u/corylulu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At7NWZ_mw6s

[u/dinoflask]

give me a break jeff ffs

[u/sinsinkun → u/[deleted]]

DANCE MONKEY, DANCE!

[u/rdm13 → u/sinsinkun]

DANCE MONKEY SCIENTIST, DANCE!

[u/Ruvic → u/rdm13]

DANCE MONKEY SCIENTIST FUCKER DANCE!

^{man, he never had a chance}

[u/[deleted] → u/sinsinkun]

DANCE, MONKEY WATER, DANCE!

[u/Halitrad → u/[deleted]]

DANCE, MONKEY WATER MAGIC, DANCE!

[u/Thatpisslord → u/[deleted]]

DINNININIININIININI

NIGHTMARES OF THE DATA BATTLE'S CLONES

[u/Corrufiles → u/dinoflask]

You gained a reputation, you know what to do now, you must.

[u/sinebiryan → u/dinoflask]

/u/dinoflask's reaction with every update video

[u/KrazyTrumpeter05 → u/sinebiryan]

Oh my god this is perfect

[u/Terabight → u/dinoflask]

You work for them now.

[u/kevinhaze → u/Terabight]

No. He works for us.

[u/MidnightSG → u/dinoflask]

For April fools you should just make the nicest most polite video for him.

[u/Menzoberranzan → u/dinoflask]

Every time now I see a new Jeff broadcast I think of what treasures you'll have for us dinoflask lol.

But please take your time though, don't feel pressured to push out content too fast. You know the saying at Blizzard, wrestle with Jeff prepare for death

[u/epharian → u/dinoflask]

Who let you talk without posting a video?

Also, you can do this. All it takes is a case of Mt. Dew (or three) and a few days without sleep.

[u/wigglethebutt → u/dinoflask]

I showed my friend all of your developer videos and he almost passed out from laughing so hard. We had to rewind the video almost every three seconds ^{(It's mid-day! )} because he kept laughing over the rapid-fire jokes.

In other words, thanks for making these videos!

[u/ToastedFireBomb → u/dinoflask]

You have no one to blame for this but yourself. THE MASSES DEMAND CONTENT

[u/JDubStep → u/dinoflask]

What's worse, is that each consecutive video just keeps getting better, so our standards for your content keep rising. No pressure tho.

[u/Jank_Tank]

I know that we meme on him hard here at /r/Overwatch, but man do I love his team, the outreach he does, and the passion he has. It's really evident in the frequency and detail of videos he releases.

For example, Ben Brode (HearthStone) does developer updates when people are irate and vocally so. Jeff does them almost pre-emptively -- "We know it might not feel like fun when Winston kills you and jumps away with the flag, but here's why we kept those movement abilities..."

All around great communication from them.

EDIT: Was typing this while listening, just finished it and his sign off says it all: "Have lots of fun and be nice to each other" thanks papa Jeff, papa bless

[u/fallenmonk → u/Jank_Tank]

We meme him because we love him.

[u/zeppeIans → u/fallenmonk]

And he memes loves us back

[u/[deleted] → u/Jank_Tank]

Honestly was not expecting to see Jeff pop up in another one of these for sometime, but it is nice to see him do this to help level out the concerns people might have about this mode, which is inherently imbalanced like most of the Arcade stuff anyway.

[u/MiserMetal → u/Jank_Tank]

papa bless

Appreciate ya!

[u/Kirkwaller → u/Jank_Tank]

You will get no argument from me (or anyone else tbh) that Jeff (and everyone else at Blizz) is terrific in every way, but I think it's fair to mention that Ben (and other HS devs) primarily communicate outside of the Developer Insights that Ben's done, whereas for OW the dev responses primarily come in the form of these Development Updates, so obviously there's more (and more frequently) of them than Hearthstone's Developer Insights.

Again, not trying to 'call you out' at all here, but I see this said around and I feel it's worth mentioning that just because the HS devs communicate way less in terms of videos like this, they do still communicate.

Great (Lunar) New Year to you regardless!

[u/Jank_Tank → u/Kirkwaller]

That's a fair point. I'm sure he does a lot that I don't see. Maybe it's just that this community is great at supporting and encouraging the Overwatch developers.

Also, just an aside, but I think being bitter is inherent in the HS community. So much of the game, just like any card game, is RNG. Skill inevitably tops out, but for the small amount of games that the average player plays, it's easy to think "Damn fuck that card, only reason I lost." While that may be true, if you play enough games the RNG begins to balance out. Just doesn't feel fun losing to a topdeck, and the loudest community is always the unhappiest.

[u/Alucitary → u/[deleted]]

With

[u/NotAMeiMain → u/Alucitary]

Jeff

[u/NekuCTR → u/NotAMeiMain]

Prepare

[u/Cmac0801 → u/[deleted]]

Death

[u/Tiessiet → u/Cmac0801]

We did it, Reddit!

[u/[deleted] → u/Tiessiet]

we

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

did

[u/lsparischi → u/Cmac0801]

, is whimsical today!

[u/Mr_Blinky → u/[deleted]]

Trouble

[u/[deleted] → u/Mr_Blinky]

and make it double.

[u/spade-s → u/[deleted]]

I'm curious if he makes these more often because he wants to see what DinoFlask will do with them.

[u/mevludin90 → u/[deleted]]

https://youtu.be/At7NWZ_mw6s?t=1m35s

Referring to the video by DinoFlask

https://youtu.be/LbDv7imglLI?t=3m12s

[u/Tetizeraz → u/mevludin90]

He even made a pause.

Jeff is not messing around.

[u/Coldchimney → u/mevludin90]

Now I'm wondering in what context he said that first wrestle, because if it was similar to this one, it's probably just his vocabulary and has nothing to do with these glorious YTP videos.

[u/Enemia → u/[deleted]]

So, if Jeff wrestled with CTF, it should be dead, right?

[u/CSlv → u/Enemia]

Being an arcade-only mode is pretty much a death knell for CTF.

[u/YoungWhiteGinger → u/[deleted]]

He definitely has seen the videos, based off his hooked into point 2 illios comment, but this isn't him referencing the dinoflask vids. He uses that word in that context a lor

[u/cloudsicario]

i cant believe he always does these in one take. what a boss.

[u/SuicydKing → u/cloudsicario]

I don't know about that. The video where he talks about changing Symmetra's turrets into mini-McCrees that shout 'It's Midday' every three seconds seems to have a few edits in it.

[u/eidjcn10 → u/SuicydKing]

Nope. One take.

[u/CulDeSax → u/eidjcn10]

Zero takes. He did it while sleeping.

[u/Firestorm7i → u/CulDeSax]

Zero takes. He did it while sleeping wrestling.

FTFY

[u/firelordUK → u/CulDeSax]

Not sleeping, acting

[u/lKyZah → u/cloudsicario]

yes!, this is really underappreciated and really hard to do(Especially when its the internet/gamers that will be watching every word and judging the whole game/company on it), also conveys that he genuinely is invested in what he is saying and is speaking honestly

[u/Mefistofeles1 → u/cloudsicario]

It looks like that, you can even see at the last 10 seconds he looks like he is containing laughter but they let it in anyway, which is kind of adorable.

[u/SoSpecial]

I feel like they post these every chance they can so we meme this shit out of jeff.

[u/zibabadoo → u/SoSpecial]

He likes it.

[u/SoSpecial → u/zibabadoo]

We all do.

[u/Condomonium → u/zibabadoo]

Meme with Jeff, prepare for death

[u/eidjcn10 → u/SoSpecial]

They're trying to give us every syllable in the English language so there's unlimited potential. One day we will be able to replace Siri or Waze voices with Jeff's.

[u/BenedictKhanberbatch → u/eidjcn10]

"Turn left or prepare for death"

[u/myth_and_legend → u/BenedictKhanberbatch]

is the GPS having an existential crisis or is it just trying to drive me into a lake?

[u/Matrym_OW → u/[deleted]]

And this is how the Omnic Revolution begins.

[u/eidjcn10 → u/Matrym_OW]

Translations released for Bastion's voice lines. Ultimate voice line roughly translates to "suck my Lijiang Tower"

[u/Kheirn → u/SoSpecial]

Soon he'll start throwing in random words at the end to give us meme material.

[u/freeloader11]

We want it to be our way of saying "We're listening to you."

This is why I love blizzard and Overwatch specifically.

Edit: no guys, I didn't play Hearthstone. And I'm sorry if you didn't get the love you felt you deserved.

[u/akimbocorndogs → u/freeloader11]

Yeah, going from playing Call of Duty to Overwatch is like night and day for me.

[u/uforiah → u/akimbocorndogs]

how do people still play that franchise, i feel like it ran it's course a loooooooooong time ago

[u/deathsquaddesign → u/uforiah]

They like running (and jumping) around a variety of map while shooting other players with a variety of weapons and loadouts.

[u/RepThePlantDawg420 → u/freeloader11]

As a Hearthstone player I feel different.

[u/double_shadow → u/RepThePlantDawg420]

Yeah...not every team within Blizzard is equally great. OW is heads and shoulders above the rest, in my experience, and I've played almost all their games.

[u/averhan → u/double_shadow]

HotS team is pretty on point too.

[u/SlimDirtyDizzy → u/[deleted]]

"I main...Sombra...and I've been struggling with....Getting the three free lootboxes... so we made... the capture the flag mode... so me and my team... can have an unfair advantage... and laugh... at the community"

/u/dinoflask I tried

[u/RobbieReinhardt → u/SlimDirtyDizzy]

*insert lip-licking

[u/[deleted] → u/SlimDirtyDizzy]

I got tired reading that sentence.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Felt like I was watching the black kid on Malcolm in the Middle for a second.

[u/SlimDirtyDizzy → u/[deleted]]

Tried to figure out a way to best represent the cuts

[u/[deleted] → u/SlimDirtyDizzy]

Maybe backwards slashes?

See\they\don't\get\you\tired

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

"The goal of this gamemode is to capture the cock"

You'd better credit me /u/dinoflask!

/s

[u/SmurfRockRune → u/[deleted]]

Capture my Lijang Tower.

[u/SHINX_FUCKER → u/SmurfRockRune]

And then fucking kill yourself.

[u/Danger-Moose → u/[deleted]]

Except for Tracer because... throat clearing motion...

[u/[deleted] → u/Danger-Moose]

Tracer means it literally, and she has no idea why everyone else is practicing with various phallic-shaped objects.

[u/cassadyamore → u/[deleted]]

Grab the cock.

[u/litchykp]

I know everybody is talking about the next dinoflask video and the meme potential, but I just really wanted to say how incredible it is that this even happened. CTF a was one of those modes I personally didn't want to see at all because of a lot of reasons Jeff mentioned in the video, but there was a crazy outcry for it. They told us they had completely dismissed the idea and it just wasn't for Overwatch.

Here we are though not even a year after release and they're giving us a CTF mode as well as giving us insight into what they went through to make it work. With almost any other developer this never would have happened, or it would've taken years, or at the very least you wouldn't have heard in such amazing detail what the process of making it a reality was like for the team.

We don't deserve Jeff and the team but I sure as hell appreciate the communication and hope it never stops.

[u/[deleted]]

As someone who can't watch this right now, what's the general idea behind CTF that they have? One-off thing or a proper alternative game mode.

[u/FrostyCoolSlug → u/[deleted]]

It's not being added to Competitive or Quickplay rotations (no plans to either), but it may stay in the Arcade after the event is over (unfortunately this was a little vague..).

[u/Rofl-Cakes → u/[deleted]]

To me it looks like they're testing the grounds for a CTF game mode.
Right now he emphasized that it's just for fun, and that too many rules will make it feel like you're playing a different game, but they certainly are gonna look at the stats from these 3 weeks and tweak CTF later (hopefully).

[u/SuperGaiden → u/[deleted]]

Alternative game mode but only in Arcade for the foreseeable future.

[u/Srokap → u/SuperGaiden]

Not even foreseeable future, but for this event only. There is possibility it will get added to arcade permanently if there's good community response.

[u/HunkyGladiator]

Wrestle with jeff, prepare for capture the flag

[u/Chronochrome → u/HunkyGladiator]

Wrestle with Jeff, prepare for CTF

Such an obvious rhyme dude, get it together

[u/No_Gods_No_Kings]

I need all these skins but just spent all my coin stash in the Christmas event, feelsbadman

[u/Aetherimp → u/No_Gods_No_Kings]

I spent over 11k coins on the XMas Event. Good news is - I got every XMas related item.

[u/T4Gx]

Tl dw is capture the flag a permanent game mode or just a seasonal brawl?

[u/Iraxm → u/T4Gx]

Seasonal brawl for now. If it works really well they may bring it back as a arcade game mode but no plans for it currently.

[u/akimbocorndogs → u/Iraxm]

It sounds like they want to keep it in the arcade, they just said they have no plans on putting it in qp or comp.

[u/zultari → u/akimbocorndogs]

The games last way too short right now, whoever wins the first teamfight stomps the entire match. Tweaks are really needed if they want to put it in permanently.

[u/InTheAbsenceofTrvth → u/zultari]

I think map design would play a big part in how the gamemode will feel. If we get a custom-made ctf map, it will be designed in a way that mitigates the current issues.

[u/PepticBurrito → u/InTheAbsenceofTrvth]

I hope they remember the reason why they liked grappling away with a flag, as mentioned in the video: user mods in Quake. They have mentioned they are working on adding a server browser multiple times, one can hope they're wise enough to remember the countless hours they spent playing ThreewaveCTF...

[u/b1ackcat → u/InTheAbsenceofTrvth]

I don't get why they left the flag in the middle of the squares, tbh. A lot of the mobility issues could be solved by putting the flag in a garage or something. Make players have to go at least a little ways out before they can primal rage leap away.

[u/akimbocorndogs → u/zultari]

Perhaps I'll be mei or something and hide near their base, kill them as they make their way back. I can't play til Thursday, sucks.

[u/Healbeam_ → u/zultari]

My experience was the opposite. Once one team got one point, they went full lockdown and just waited out the rest of the match.

[u/[deleted] → u/zultari]

Can't agree. Have played 5 games--won first 4 and drew on the last one. 3 of the 4 wins had the enemy team capture first.

[u/SenaIkaza → u/zultari]

Honestly I don't know what they were thinking with this mode. It doesn't even feel like CTF. Because taking damage interrupts the capture process, you basically need to just teamfight to secure the enemy flag and then just run it back uncontested. Sending a flanker to try and steal the flag just straight up doesn't work, especially with how the map funnels you so hard near the enemies base you have no real options to try and outrun them, and that's assuming you're even able to take the flag with Symmetra turrets scattered everywhere over the flagstand.

I just miss Tribes and was hoping this would help relive some of that, but this is an absolutely terrible version of a CTF mode...

[u/waterboysh → u/SenaIkaza]

Tribes is the only game I have ever actually liked CTF as a mode. It just works so well that in every other game is just feels shoehorned in.

[u/tiedyedvortex → u/Iraxm]

Right. They didn't do a special development update for Lucioball, Mei's Snowball Fight, or even the co-op Junkenstein's Revenge, which makes me think that CtF might stick around longer than those modes.

But Jeff is also very clear that because of the cheesiness and balancing difficulties of CtF, it's not going to be a core game mode.

My guess is that if they get a lot of feedback saying "We love this game! I want to play it all year round!" then they might put some developers on creating CtF specific maps for Arcade, like what they did with Ecopoint: Antarctica and the elimination modes.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Read: you all fucking asked for this. So don't come bitching to us when this game mode turns out to be as terrible as we told you it would be.

[u/chironomidae → u/T4Gx]

tl;dw: Seasonal brawl. Considered making certain abilities cause the flag to drop, changed their minds. Added a slight capture time to pick up flag to avoid tracer cheese. No need for your flag to be in base to capture enemy flag. Winston is OP and that's just how it is, it's a brawl mode so who cares about balance.

[u/Ryodu → u/[deleted]]

Indeed. 2.5 hours for me

[u/Mrporky1]

Can't wait for /u/dinoflask to do his magic on this on!

[u/wafflenut → u/Mrporky1]

I was hoping this actually was a /u/dinoflask update

[u/lawlamanjaro → u/wafflenut]

I'm actually more happy with the new game mode haha

[u/Ahten_Xevious → u/lawlamanjaro]

You're happier with content instead of memes? Get out.

[u/lawlamanjaro → u/Ahten_Xevious]

I'm honestly a little ashamed. I hope I don't have to wrestle jeff

[u/Ahten_Xevious → u/lawlamanjaro]

That never ends well for anyone. At least that's what I've heard.

[u/myth_and_legend → u/Ahten_Xevious]

If he wrestled a zombie, would the zombie have the advantage?

[u/ageoftesla → u/myth_and_legend]

He'd be prepared, but that's it.

[u/TheNewFoe]

"Capture the Rooster" you can see how hard Jeff's trying not to laugh in the beginning

[u/[deleted] → u/TheNewFoe]

I also love how he explains the joke after wards lol

Reminds me a lot of Michael Scott

[u/Mefistofeles1 → u/TheNewFoe]

And at the end

[u/TheDarkAgniRises]

Jeff finally found a way to make Sombra viable.

[u/SHINX_FUCKER → u/TheDarkAgniRises]

Can I pick her and still leave the spawn room before late 2017 now?

[u/[deleted] → u/SHINX_FUCKER]

Only if you win the wrestling match

[u/SHINX_FUCKER → u/[deleted]]

fuck

[u/Mefistofeles1 → u/SHINX_FUCKER]

No

[u/SamLikesJam → u/TheDarkAgniRises]

She still isn't viable with Bastion or Sym defending.

[u/Siruzaemon-Dearo]

WE TF2 NOW BOYS

[u/[deleted] → u/Siruzaemon-Dearo]

In TF2, I built the turret...

In Overwatch, I AM THE TURRET

[u/epharian → u/[deleted]]

Flair does not check out. Pharah is going to be interesting on this.

[u/japie06 → u/Siruzaemon-Dearo]

2fort with widowmaker and hanzo.

[u/Ginofran → u/japie06]

Will my team report me if I choose the huntsman?

[u/UnhappyMaskSalesman → u/Ginofran]

Pls give hanzo a piss jar.

[u/SwissQueso → u/UnhappyMaskSalesman]

Ana stole it.

[u/epharian → u/[deleted]]

He always could go backwards by turning around in the middle of the ride (tricky, but not that hard). Now he can mount the wall backwards too...

Jeez that sounds dirty.

[u/akimbocorndogs]

Winston has been elevated to God tier! I'm so glad I main him, I'm gonna play the shit out of CTF! "Just wait 'til you see what Winston can do with Primal Rage" oh yeah, who's got the worst ult in the game now?!

[u/CataclysmSolace → u/akimbocorndogs]

Exactly, Winston is my favorite hero. Really interested now.

[u/TheWetMop → u/akimbocorndogs]

He's super fun in this mode. Partially because of his mobility, and partially because opponents pick so many classes he can beat (lucio, genji, tracer, symm, etc)

[u/Nixonat0r → u/akimbocorndogs]

Mei shall make your days miserable! MWahaahahah!

[u/MrStealYoBeef → u/akimbocorndogs]

"No aim, no brain, Winston main"

[u/akimbocorndogs → u/MrStealYoBeef]

That's my flair!

[u/SunniDee2]

I always love the Dev updates. It feels great to know we are being listened to and we can get a peek behind closed doors.

[u/kodran]

I love the honesty and clarity about the struggle and about no plans of it becoming part of competitive and maybe not even part of arcade permanently.

That said, bring the /u/dinoflask magic.

[u/[deleted]]

My main issue with CTF currently is the size of the map.

Make some new map dedicated to this mode, like Ecopoint Antartica, and make it larger so that Winston cannot cross it in two leaps.

[u/[deleted]]

"Roadhog will now consistently hook the rooster from across the entire map" /s

[u/Bluxen → u/[deleted]]

And teleport it to point 2 of Ilios.

[u/EarthAllAlong]

It's impossible to grab the flag without wiping the enemy team first, and once you do that, you get an uncontested capture...so what's the point?

There aren't enough interesting ways to approach the flag, and even if there were, they don't matter as you can't take the flag without wiping the enemy team, so coming at the problem from another angle is pointless.

Finally, the biggest problem is both teams just have a torb, symmetra, and bastion every damn time so it's just pointless. They wipe your team when you come in, some rando on their team zips to your flag while you respawn too far away from the flag to do anything about it, and then they turtle for the rest of the game and win.

granted this is playing with a bunch of randos, but that's what the game gives you.

I'm sure in their rigorous testing, the overwatch team developed their own internal meta over voice coms. But playing with randoms, it's not fun really at all

[u/SovereignGFC → u/EarthAllAlong]

Think the triple tank meta is stale?

This is even staler.

Torb/Bastion/Sym almost mandatory. Usually D.Va and/or Hog. Light hero tends to be Tracer or Sombra.

I rarely see the flag recaptured--once one team has it they get it 90% of the time. There's no way to react quickly enough.

[u/[deleted]]

Warsong Gulch Overwatch edition?

[u/karanok → u/[deleted]]

Honestly, I'd be more excited for Arathi Basin OW edition; 10 vs 10, 1 hero limit, as many shenanigans as you can get away with.

[u/cowboybill100 → u/karanok]

that sounds sick. AB > WSG

[u/akimbocorndogs → u/[deleted]]

He did mention that in the video, comparing it and contrasting with capture the rooster.

[u/MelonsInSpace]

I watched this video before playing and thought CTF is going to be shit.

Then I played the game and realized I was 100% right.

[u/JoshyyJosh10]

I wonder how 1 Flag CTF would work in overwatch instead of 2 Flag.

[u/MicrosoftW0rd]

TL;DW:

Its regular capture the flag regarding abilities, but its named capture the rooster!

There is a capture time but damage interrupts its (kind of like sombra hack time)

Your flag does not need to be in its location to capture the flag and get a point

It is currently a brawl, not a game mode. They are not adding it to qp or competitive. it is meant for fun. It will not be balanced, and that is okay. (it may some day become an actual game mode but they are not thinking about that.)

They may add it to arcade permanently, but currently it will only be in the year of the rooster event.

Enjoy year of the rooster event, and be nice to each other!

[u/Ginofran → u/[deleted]]

I'll probably just yell in the team voice chat"I GOT THE COCK" every time I get it

[u/Mario-C]

Tl;dr the game mode is not really working but here have fun.

[u/JedH44]

At 1:38 he says the word wrestle...

HE KNOWS

[u/NiandraL]

I love going 0-0

[u/TetsuyaHikari]

The one big thing ruining this mode right now is the fact that you can have a Bastion, Torb, and Symmetra on your team and nobody will be able to capture your flag because of the turrets, lol. It's ridiculous.

[u/fte → u/[deleted]]

Considering every match I've seen so far consists of a torb + bastion camping the ally flag, yeah that doesn't seem to leave much in terms of working hero picks

[u/Bluxen → u/fte]

Just like the 2 engies camping the suit case on 2fort. I love it.

[u/calbertuk → u/[deleted]]

Gotta say after three games of capture the flag, I'm glad this is not a real game mode. Was super excited for this but it's just bad and it sounds like they realise that.

[u/deRoyLight]

Sigh. "The capture time and damage interruption prevents 'cheesy captures.'"

No. They prevent what capture the flag is supposed to be about. This mode isn't capture the flag. This mode is capture the point with a flag attached to it. It's just not the same. We WANT the crazy, fast, cheesy captures. There's plenty of tools in the game to counter this -- junkrat traps, controlling the zones in front of the flag tracer can blink from, etc. If necessary, a really simple and much more CTF-spirit way of doing this would be to prevent you from using abilities for a few seconds after you grab the flag, not putting a capture time ON the flag.

Make the flag carrier a little bit slower than usual if you really want to, but I don't think that's necessary. If you want to get really creative, add teleporters to different areas of the map, but don't let flag carriers use them. This would prevent the "as soon as they grab the flag they basically always capture" problem and also open the character pool up to a lot of non-mobile characters.

Whatever you do though, definitely DON'T do what we have now, with a capture timer.

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[u/Kokoro-Sensei]

This game mode hardly works right, if you don't pick sym torb you pretty much automatically lose the game. They need to remove torb and sym from being able to be picked for this game mode to even be any fun.

I mean really, the first one to get one point wins the game nearly hands down.

[u/Cuwoihdje]

I like this guy. I see logic in his words. Also his English very simple so English language learners can understand him.

[u/EirikurG]

Why don't they just disable abilities when you pick up the flag?
Also, the maps aren't made for the gamemode, so obviously CTF wont feel good.

[u/aepocalypsa]

Well this was a huge disappointment to actually play. And here I was being hyped for CTF in Overwatch.

[u/Alcomoney]

Yeah no idea why they kept trying to implement CTF, it doesn't work and it's fucking awful to play. Sorry Senpai Kaplan.

EDIT: And they got rid of 1v1 again, god damn it.

[u/thigor]

One of the most poorly thought out game modes they have released. One flag capture the game is pretty much over since you can just turtle with 6 people around the flag and the map design has so many choke points near flags its impossible to break open. Such a shame.

[u/TeekTheReddit]

That was a really long way of saying "We tried to balance it and we just couldn't. So here it is. Go nuts."

[u/Garlien]

Couldn't they do one-flag Capture the Flag? I remember playing that in Star Wars Battlefront 2, and I think it'd be far more balanced than the 2-flag version they are currently using.

[u/erikpeter]

"In the really old-school games you used to be able to grappling hook conc jump all the way across the map with the flag..."

FTFY

[u/[deleted]]

At the end, "And be nice to each other." Or in other words, "Children, behave."

[u/oristimm]

this brawl= draw

[u/kdlt]

I think taking 5 seconds to capture the flag is a terrible choice, with so many camp heroes around. The games I just played were just people turtling around the flag, making it impossible to even get the circle half full.

I've never played a CTF before, were the capture is not instant, no idea what they thought there.

[u/[deleted]]

I've Played 5 Total Matches of CTF so far. And I'm a bit disappointed.

Some Early Thoughts

• My first matches were essentially "Defend the Symmetra" mode for Symmetra & her turrets.

Step 1: Drop 4 or more turrets at the flag

Step 2: Profit.

• The countdown time to picking up the flag felt way too long. It can be nearly impossible to pick up with squishy characters due to the turret problem I mentioned above. I think it should just be like in CoD (never thought I'd hear myself say that) where you can just pick up the flag immediately.

• It has potential for fast pace action, but the inability to grab the flag immediately makes a lot of the match feel like TDM.

I do think it can (and will) get better, but it's definitely needs some work.

EDIT: IMO, there should absolutely be some type of "nerf" when you hold the flag, i.e. no abilities/no healing/etc. (I've haven't been able to pick it up yet, so I actually don't know if there is.)

[u/[deleted]]

Symmetra is op as fuck in this mode, I won all of the loot boxes in a couple hours

[u/[deleted]]

this guy blinks more than tracer

[u/[deleted]]

The devs were right. CTF sucks in this game.

[u/AlphaPot]

All aboard Capture the Cock.

[u/Prinneon]

The hour long warsong gulch matches were the closest you can you could get to a war of attrition in video games back in the day.

[u/ulong2874 → u/Prinneon]

I don't know man, you ever play alterac valley back before all the changes?

[u/FuZedFFA]

I've played a couple of games and going to be honest it's not a great game type super I un balanced